Reagan Posted May 1, 2021 Report Posted May 1, 2021 And fired for this! This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up Quote
Hagar Posted May 1, 2021 Author Report Posted May 1, 2021 2 minutes ago, Reagan said: And fired for this! This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up No wonder! Β Anybody insult Fat Albert like that needs to be fired. ππππππ€£π€£π€£πππππ Reagan 1 Quote
LumRaiderFan Posted May 1, 2021 Report Posted May 1, 2021 If only she were a conservative, he might have got a promotion. Reagan 1 Quote
tvc184 Posted May 1, 2021 Report Posted May 1, 2021 1 hour ago, Hagar said: He shouldβve got an Academy Award. Β Yeah, but you canβt do that in your uniform. I have the right to protest. I do not have the right to protest in my police departmentβsΒ uniform. Quote
Reagan Posted May 1, 2021 Report Posted May 1, 2021 9 hours ago, tvc184 said: Yeah, but you canβt do that in your uniform. I have the right to protest. I do not have the right to protest in my police departmentβsΒ uniform. NFL players, and in other sports, think they do! Quote
Hagar Posted May 1, 2021 Author Report Posted May 1, 2021 12 hours ago, tvc184 said: Yeah, but you canβt do that in your uniform. I have the right to protest. I do not have the right to protest in my police departmentβsΒ uniform. I know (figured/assumed). Β Still, it was hilarious, and made a valid point. Β Personally, I hope he just gets off with a hand slap. Would be interested in your βbest guessβ on the outcome. Β Could he be fired? Quote
5GallonBucket Posted May 1, 2021 Report Posted May 1, 2021 13 hours ago, tvc184 said: Yeah, but you canβt do that in your uniform. I have the right to protest. I do not have the right to protest in my police departmentβsΒ uniform. This is considered a protest? Quote
baddog Posted May 1, 2021 Report Posted May 1, 2021 1 hour ago, 5GallonBucket said: This is considered a protest? Cops canβt be sarcastic towards their haters, especially white cops. Quote
tvc184 Posted May 1, 2021 Report Posted May 1, 2021 6 hours ago, Reagan said: NFL players, and in other sports, think they do! They are under individual contracts. Also, a team could probably fire an NFL player legally.... they just donβt want toΒ Quote
tvc184 Posted May 1, 2021 Report Posted May 1, 2021 2 hours ago, 5GallonBucket said: This is considered a protest? Sure. Sarcasm to call out the stupidity of a political view. Β Quote
baddog Posted May 1, 2021 Report Posted May 1, 2021 Funny how cops canβt apply their right to free speech, but are called on to protect people who want to apply theirs. This country is nuts. Quote
5GallonBucket Posted May 1, 2021 Report Posted May 1, 2021 56 minutes ago, tvc184 said: Sure. Sarcasm to call out the stupidity of a political view. Β I donβt find any of it political. now media and the stupidity of Lebron has tried to make it political. itβs more about procedure/protocol to the situationΒ Β Quote
tvc184 Posted May 2, 2021 Report Posted May 2, 2021 4 hours ago, 5GallonBucket said: I donβt find any of it political. now media and the stupidity of Lebron has tried to make it political. itβs more about procedure/protocol to the situationΒ Β It doesnβt matter what you wish to call it. The police cannot make personal opinion comments in while in their department uniform.Β CardinalBacker 1 Quote
5GallonBucket Posted May 2, 2021 Report Posted May 2, 2021 6 minutes ago, tvc184 said: It doesnβt matter what you wish to call it. The police cannot make personal opinion comments in while in their department uniform.Β I understand that. I m around LEOs on a daily basis (in uniform) and I hear personal opinion in βsmall talkβΒ a lot of the time. Β IMO itβs because this guy used media to share it and the fact he was spot on so it was viewed nation wide.Β I just hope it doesnβt cost him his job. Β Quote
tvc184 Posted May 2, 2021 Report Posted May 2, 2021 6 minutes ago, 5GallonBucket said: I understand that. I m around LEOs on a daily basis (in uniform) and I hear personal opinion in βsmall talkβΒ a lot of the time. Β IMO itβs because this guy used media to share it and the fact he was spot on so it was viewed nation wide.Β I just hope it doesnβt cost him his job. Β It is absolutely because he put it out to the public in the media. Small talk can I also get you in trouble if someone records your statement and it becomes public. It is called conduct unbecoming or conduct that might shedΒ a bad light on the police agency. Many or most police agencies (and many private companies) Β have rules they say you could not have a picture on your Facebook page in your uniform. The rules also states that if youβre making political statements or opinions or anything of that nature, you cannot identify the agency that you work for. An officerΒ has a right to free speech but he does not have a right to make his agency look bad. That is why most people in such public professionsΒ thatΒ Β want to make political statements, do so under a disguised profile. A Walmart employee has the right to his opinion also.Β Β He stillΒ canβt wear a Walmart smock on a videoΒ and make a comment that makes Walmart look bad without facing consequences which will likely be termination.Β Quote
Hagar Posted May 2, 2021 Author Report Posted May 2, 2021 13 hours ago, tvc184 said: It is absolutely because he put it out to the public in the media. Small talk can I also get you in trouble if someone records your statement and it becomes public. It is called conduct unbecoming or conduct that might shedΒ a bad light on the police agency. Many or most police agencies (and many private companies) Β have rules they say you could not have a picture on your Facebook page in your uniform. The rules also states that if youβre making political statements or opinions or anything of that nature, you cannot identify the agency that you work for. An officerΒ has a right to free speech but he does not have a right to make his agency look bad. That is why most people in such public professionsΒ thatΒ Β want to make political statements, do so under a disguised profile. A Walmart employee has the right to his opinion also.Β Β He stillΒ canβt wear a Walmart smock on a videoΒ and make a comment that makes Walmart look bad without facing consequences which will likely be termination.Β Not trying to be confrontational, just curious. Β If to do this,Β heβdΒ gotten a Security Guard uniform, and used his own car with a fake mike, would he still be subject to consequences? Β I suppose the answer may depend on his Dept rules, but say it was someone in your Dept. Β Quote
SmashMouth Posted May 2, 2021 Report Posted May 2, 2021 Just for context: If a school teacher is seen in a Facebook post drinking alcohol, that teacher can face termination...even if it appears on someone elseβs post.Β Hagar 1 Quote
Hagar Posted May 3, 2021 Author Report Posted May 3, 2021 2 hours ago, SmashMouth said: Just for context: If a school teacher is seen in a Facebook post drinking alcohol, that teacher can face termination...even if it appears on someone elseβs post.Β Ridiculous. Β I could understand if smoking a joint, but alcohol is legal. Β Iβd much rather theyβre having a drink than teaching counter culture. 5GallonBucket 1 Quote
tvc184 Posted May 3, 2021 Report Posted May 3, 2021 8 hours ago, Hagar said: Not trying to be confrontational, just curious. Β If to do this,Β heβdΒ gotten a Security Guard uniform, and used his own car with a fake mike, would he still be subject to consequences? Β I suppose the answer may depend on his Dept rules, but say it was someone in your Dept. Β It isnβt the opinion/joke/statement, it is the ability to link it to a police agency. And yes, department rules but conduct unbecoming has a far reach.Β Hagar 1 Quote
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