Health Care

[Hagar]

3 hours ago, Big girl said:

Republicans said the same thing about Obama care. Remember the death panels comments. The new plan is horrible.

There is definitely a death panel.  As Regan said, read the original article.  There are 15 appointed bureaucrats.  If someone appoints 15 Muslims to the panel, I'm dead.  If someone appoints 15 Klan members, you may be.  Either way, I don't like it.

[stevenash]

On ‎7‎/‎15‎/‎2017 at 11:41 AM, Big girl said:

So...we should allow companies to only pay minimum wage? Without unions, we wouldn't have 40 hour weekdays, weekends off, overtime pay etc. Evil Unions. A working class person that is anti union = an idiot.

The market place is the best determiner of wages and hours.  Always has been and always will be.

[baddog]

4 minutes ago, stevenash said:

The market place is the best determiner of wages and hours.  Always has been and always will be.

Plus, it's hard to get a 40 hour weekday with only 24 to work with.

I have no problem with unions. Just don't try and convince me that they are the most skilled. Everyone can't be union.

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[Englebert]

I hope this pathetic bill tumbles into the negative digits (just using Man-made Global Warming/Liberal hyperbole). I keep hearing pundits saying that the GOP ran on "repeal and replace" for the last seven years, and are astonished that they don't have a plan. First of all, that is a complete lie (fake news). The GOP has ran on "repeal" for the last six years. Trump started the "and replace" during his election run. Why the GOP accepted this "and replace" notion is flabbergasting to me. "Replace" is not a tenant of Conservatism, and every GOP member contemplating "replace" should be shown the door (and I wouldn't mine real Conservatives hurling hateful insults at them as they are shown the door...after all, I've adopted the Liberal form of debate here lately so a model of decorum is predicated on...well, nothing.) Thank God for Rand Paul and a few sensible Senators preventing this monstrosity (basically just a renamed Obamacare) from seeing the light of day. I think I have a new motto: "Just repeal or secede." (That motto is just for the minions...I prefer secession regardless of where this goes.)

I'm going to go out on a limb and predict that Big Girl, new tobie, nappyroots, Fee Dee, Six Burg will read this, but will later claim that everyone on this site will support Trump and/or the GOP no matter what. Anyone want to wager on this?

[Hagar]

Repeal is ideal.  As you said ^^^^^^ to replace is still a form of Obamacare.  Or, to combine the poet and the writer, a rose is a rose by any other name.  

But I must, once again, question my fellow citizens.  Although I wish Trump would just demand repeal, I'm not sure why so many blame him.  As I understand (misunderstand?) our Govt, it's Congress' duty to replace it.  And what's happening now is all on the Repubs.  If the Govt insist on providing health care for the poor,  have them open a free clinic in each large city twice a week.  Leave everyone else alone.  And yes, I'd vote for The Republic of Texas.