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So are you saying that the players this year didn't believe that they could win and/or they didn't work hard?

WO-S stayed home three years in a row, I think at 8-2. I am not sure which year it was.

It did happen to Nederland about 6 years ago but Nederland was in Lumberton's shoes. Nederland went as the playoff representative and WO-S (I think) stayed home due to Nederland winning head-to-head. Had it been by points, Nederland would have stayed home.

Same guy. According to Wikipedia, he was only born in Orange because Vinton didn't have a hospital so they drove about 10 miles to Orange. [Hidden Content]

I have said it before on here and I posted the answer more than two weeks ago before this ever came up. They way they did it this year is the same way that 22-4A has done it in the past. There was nothing underhanded. This district uses head-to-head where possible to determine the placing. There were two teams tied for the Division II playoff spots, Lumberton and Dayton. Lumberton won their meeting, so they go as the #1 team in Div II. What is so hard to understand about that? This isn't rocket science.

The UIL has nothing to step into. It leaves the decision of tie breakers up to the local district which is why Dayton is probably going to clean Crosby's clock and move on to the next round.

;D If you take a little trip down to the Museum of the Gulf Coast in Port Arthur (Next to the police station), you will be become educated in that area. Actually, it is a great museum to visit and it covers the Greater Golden Triangle area.

He played Toto in the Wizard of Oz. Bobby Kimball was a singer for the rock back Toto. They had several hits going back to the late 70's. The ones that I think of right away are Africa and Rosanna.

The number of seniors on a team has a lot to do with a team's success. It obviously doesn't mean that they will win or a team with less seniors will lose but it sure tilts the scales.

Yep. Wikipedia has it where people can add information to the site. Some of the people that claim to be from some places is dubious in nature. I guess it comes down to your definition of being from somewhere. I think with wikipedia, if you drove through the town, played at a nightclub there or maybe had a family member that lived nearby, they consider you from that town. It shows Johnny and Edgar Winter as being from Orange but if you look up Beaumont, it shows them being born and raised there also. Wikipedia shows Tracy Byrd and Clay Walker as being from Beaumont and I thought that they were raised and graduated from Vidor. Bum Phillips shows to be from Beaumont and Orange. I guess maybe he was born in one city but raised in another. Like I said, I guess it goes by your definition of what being from somewhere means. Anyway, this area obviously is well represented with a lot of famous people in all lines of work, no matter which city (cities) they are from.

LOL..... come on beards_bro. I agree with Lumberton being the winner head-to-head... but Lumberton being penalized for running up the score? Lumberton was tied with two teams, PN-G and Dayton. Those are the only scores that count. PN-G beat Lumberton so there was no chance to run up any score as you lost. Then the game with Dayton, Lumberton scored and then got a two point conversion on their last play of the game to win by one point. How would they have run up the score? Congrats on Lumberton and good luck in the playoffs.. but running up the score?? ;D

I found this from October 27th when beaumontballer44 asked what happens in a three way tie. Two weeks ago I stated exactly how it would play out.

I don't know about the meeting but I posted this very scenario a couple of weeks ago in this forum. It has been decided that way in the past in 22-4A. Once a team is removed from the three way tie (such as PN-G going Div I), then it is back to head-to-head. That is the way it has worked in this district in the past.

The district championship means nothing more than a trophy and being able to say that you were the district champion. At one time that was the sole criteria for going to the playoffs. That obviously is not true today. Now it means another addition to the trophy case and nothing more.

Great game and season by Lumberton. Congratulations and good luck in the playoffs.

You are correct. The only problem is, one team does not go to the playoffs. Under the old system Dayton would be the champion. Not so today.

On a lease, I can never understand why someone even wants to shoot a year and a half old 4-6 point that weighs 95 pounds (maybe) but in east Texas, that seems to be the norm. "If it's brown, it's down".

Well, I bought it when I was 12 years old. ;D

In a couple of years, he ought to be a shooter. ;D I don't think he looks that old. He is just a big deer. Assuming that it is a good picture of him, his belly isn't that big and his back is still fairly straight. A 4 1/2 maybe?

I have a couple Abu-Garcia Ambassadeurs that are over 20 years old that are still in good shape. I have a Shimano Bantam 100 that is about 25 years old and is in need of a couple of new parts but it took that long to wear it out. The Shimanos are still way overpriced but great reels. I don't care if I can buy one that lasts 30 years now. I still don't think a reel like the Calcutta should be $200+.

Hmmmm... maybe my eyes aren't what they used to be.

I have about 3,000 pictures on game cams since September and this last week I got a pic of an 8 and maybe a 10 point that I have not seen before. I think they are really starting to move into the rut.

I had a picture like that on a game camera about a week ago from Chester about 15 miles out of Woodville. I just chalked it up to being a coyote. I have seen some that looked like a wolf.