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As I said in my prior comment, I do believe the opportunity to consolidate will arise again in the next 5-10 years and GCCISD will ram the change through. Their budget woes have to get bad enough where they can present the situation to taxpayers as “We have no other choice…”.

REL still holds their own, Finn’s 37-33 in his time there so far. Folks don’t seem to realize that. GCCISD will end up consolidating the High Schools, but we’re still years away from it. First off, they have to get a Bond passed to rebuild RSS. After that, and after the rebuild, then they’ll pitch the consolidation as a cost-saving measure. It’s probably 5-10 years away. Thats the only way it’ll ever get done. The Board telling voters that there’s no choice left but to consolidate due to budget woes. GCCISD is headed into year 3 of budget cuts for 25-26 and are already saying that 26-27 will be a 4th year of cuts with no relief on the horizon. Until then there’s not much for the 3 football programs in Baytown to do but play the cards they’re dealt. REL does pretty well considering. With a former REL OC running the show at GCM maybe they’ll find a way to get 2-3 wins next season or maybe not but we’ll see. RSS has a good possible interim HFC in Coach Launius, hopefully they can find a way to at least tread water this season. After that, UIL redraws Districts again and 9-5A-1 might get a little easier for them. One more thing. When folks talk about too many folks wanting to keep REL, I think they mistake why that is. I think folks assume things about other folks without walking a mile in their shoes. REL over the last few years has been the High School with the highest test scores and lowest number of fights. 6 of the Seniors on the football team made Academic All-State Honorable Mention this school year. None from RSS or GCM. Folks in Old Baytown, (and I actually live there so I know), don’t want to send our kids to RSS where the foundation of the building is crumbling or all the way out to GCM where it’s extremely overcrowded and a total mess as a result. REL is where we prefer to send our kids.

If anyone wants to listen to the audio of the SEC meeting, here you go. [Hidden Content]

So looking into this a little bit further, Sterling’s DC left last week for the HFC job in Danbury. Toomer quit shortly afterwards and no one knew about Toomer until after the Board meeting where they accepted his resignation. Sterling’s OC & QB Coach, Coach Launius, is still there and I’m guessing is gonna be interim HFC until GCCISD can hire Toomer’s replacement. I imagine he’s scrambling to keep what talent they’ve got and QB1 would be top priority for him. So we’ll see…

Maybe? I mean, they do have the “Academies” options at GCCISD where you get to choose the campus you attend by choosing the STEM Academy or Maritime Academy or whatever. I don’t know if you have to stay once you’ve already chosen heading into 9th grade. Remember that GCCISD announced a rezoning taking effect at the end of this school year so that QB might already be coming to REL just based on zoning. He’d be grandfathered if he wanted to stay at RSS but maybe that’s what happened? Maybe what talent RSS has ended up having the chance to move to REL with the rezone and Coach Toomer just gave up after the maps became official? Those rezone maps only became official a month ago.

“Undisclosed personal reasons” I don’t know what those reasons might be beyond his 17-53 record at the helm, but I know for sure he put them in a real bind walking out without warning the first week in March. It took 2 months to find Ragsdale’s replacement at GCM and that’s with GCCISD knowing in advance that they were firing him. What a mess. Man, I wish Coach Finn good luck, great health, and long life at REL. They say these things happen in 3s and I’m not so sure we can count Abseck since he was in New Baytown.

Coach Toomer is calling it quits at Baytown Sterling. “Sterling High School head football coach Robert Toomer resigned from Goose Creek CISD Monday night for undisclosed personal reasons. Nancy Bonds, the district’s director of communications, did not provide any information regarding the resignation citing personnel confidentiality. The coach’s departure came as a shock to many of the athletes and parents in the football program. Hired by the school district in May 2018, Toomer had seven seasons as the head football coach and posted a record of 17-52.”

Agreed, completely. Never said otherwise.

And folks complain about me dragging the thread off-topic! The thread is supposed to be about BH’s former coach moving to Lufkin, then we started talking about BH making shady transfer moves. Of course, the moment anyone says anything negative about BH, here come the BH homers to distract from it by bringing up how much better they are than GCCISD. You realize that every time you reply to me you just prove what I’m saying is true. Folks from BH can’t handle the truth and respond to the truth in the same way, by ignoring it and trying to distract from it. Also, the way you present those stats is a bit misleading. REL has gone 37-33 since they hired Finn and that’s been 7 years ago. REL went 6-4 last season. Take them out of the equation and yeah, RSS/GCM have problems that no one knows how to solve but everyone knows that already including you. Oh, and Barber’s Hill/Mont Belvieu is well on their way to becoming New Baytown. Enjoy those Glory Years while they last because just look at what you’re becoming to see that they don’t last forever.

My teams are Baytown Junior and REL. Both had winning records last year and neither play BH. I can’t imagine the Hell it must be to be a RSS fan. I mean, at least GCM is making some changes so there’s the faintest glimmer of hope but even as screwed up as BH is right now they should still steamroll RSS next season. No reason not to move this over to a BH thread, though, or maybe even start a whole new thread about this transfer!

He doesn’t have to shop his son. His son is a known quantity. If a program wants him with no worries about eligibility, all they’ve got to do is hire Daddy for the season. It’s greasy, for sure, but doesn’t violate the letter of the law. It’s a slippery slope from high on The Hill down into the Dirty Bay and it looks to me like BH are well on their way! Really living up to their “New Baytown” nickname!

The whole thing stinks like a whorehouse at low tide. The kid will have ended up playing for 3 separate teams, (2 non-consecutive seasons at Anahuac), attended 4 separate high schools, and transferred 5 times by the time he gets his diploma. Of course, since these Districts hire Daddy as an assistant coach, the transfers sail right through. I get it, the kid has talent, but for a program and town that’s beaten their neighbors over the heads for years with the claim that they’re superior because they’re “traditional, homegrown, old-school, etc”, it sure is funny to watch them throw all that right out the window now just they’re afraid they can’t beat Lufkin in a football game. SAD!

Doesn’t exactly inspire a lot of confidence, that’s for sure. When’s the last time BH football missed playoffs? How long ago?

Not much else to say about it except what I heard and that’s what I heard. I mean, I wouldn’t out the kid even if I knew his name which I don’t.

What is this, “Opposite Day”? Or are you just trying to get out ahead of folks picking apart each loss next season by accepting said losses in advance? BH still has athletes. They’ve got some talent at QB next season, one young and one a transfer and they look good. Correct me if I’m wrong but even though Abseck was willing to sign off on transfers up until the moment he vacated his AD position I don’t believe many BH kids/parents took him up on it. BH has home field advantage this year, (Lufkin has the long road trip), so while BH is the underdog the only way BH gets blown out is if they completely fall apart in the 1st quarter and can’t recover. If that happens, Abseck will run the score up on them worse than 25+ like he used to against the GCCISD teams. Simper knows all this, and he’s got the whole offseason to get ready for it. If BH gets blown out it’s 100% on Simper and Poole and what a mess that’ll be on The Hill! You know, if BH is really in such bad shape, maybe they ought to schedule REL/GCM in out-of-District play this year. They’d probably have to pay a little money to make it happen but yall got plenty of that. Just a thought. BH couldn’t beat Deer Park last season before their troubles began, so they definitely don’t want to be scheduling any “statement” games in OOD this year.

“Vouchers” themselves have never been put to a statewide vote. I imagine that if it was ever put to a vote, it would never pass. Pro-Voucher folks say that the “Voucher Election” was last Nov when enough Pro-Voucher Republicans were elected as replacements for Anti-Voucher Republicans to get a Voucher Bill passed in the Statehouse. This was achieved by first eliminating most anti-Voucher Republicans through the Primary process. The Senate passed its version last week. The House has signaled that it has the votes to pass its version. There’s gonna be negotiation between the 2 Chambers over what the final Bill that lands on Abbott’s desk is gonna look like but Vouchers in some form are guaranteed to pass into law this year.

No coincidence. There’s VERY rarely a choice that’s universally liked at the outset. I mean, just take Abseck’s name out and place Simper’s name in its place in that paragraph and it reflects the current situation at BH. Simper’s also been busy putting his own mark on BH. I don’t want to get into exactly what the moves are but he’s shaking things up, has his own way of doing things, and at least from what I’ve heard he’s doing differently it seems like they’re all good ideas. We’ll have to see what it looks like on the field but there’s a lot going on and at least right now it all sounds really good. It’ll be interesting to see what opinions are a year from now. Both Lufkin and BH have high expectations for their football programs and both are in the same District. One program is going to end up on top of the other next season. The Coach of the team that comes out on top will have silenced any detractors with that win. The Coach that ends up on bottom is gonna have a harder row to hoe.

Folks have already said that. The reply given is usually something along the lines of “We had primaries and an election last year and TX House members who were against the Vouchers were voted out and replaced by enough new pro-Voucher members to pass the legislation.”. I’d prefer a statewide election myself but I’d also like a winning Powerball ticket and Baytown Lee Football strong enough again to make deep playoff runs year after year.

“School Choice”, “Voucher Program”, whatever folks want to call it. It’s more than just Politics though the subject is sure being used by each “side” to browbeat the “other side”. It’s more than just Local News because it affects the whole State. Don’t know where else to start the thread. TX Senate recently voted to pass their version of the Bill. Yesterday the TX House demonstrated that they have the votes, (barely but they DO have the votes locked in), to pass their version. So it’s gonna happen. Thoughts?

Man, you’re the one who can’t help but stick his foot back in his mouth over and over again replying but never actually refuting anything I’ve said or any info I’ve posted. Now you wanna quibble over the definition of “send” because the facts are what they are and you don’t like them brought up? Whats next, Bill? You gonna argue over what the definition of “is” is? Like I said before, folks. With “friends” like these…

I think they’ve already got a good coach at REL, which is one reason the talent that doesn’t transfer out of the District transfers there. I also think you might actually see GCCISD ram through that high school consolidation in the next few years under the guise of cost-savings. It’s a bit more complicated than that. Remember that GCCISD allows incoming 9th graders/parents to choose their High School campus using the Academies option and GCCISD provides transportation. The football talent that doesn’t transfer out of District transfers to REL. it’s not enough to get beyond reaching 1st round of playoffs every decade or so but for Baytown right now that’s really good. I’m pretty sure that GCCISD would prefer it the other way around but between the best HFC in Baytown, Coach Finn, being at REL and so many other programs poaching the talent out of GCM that’s just the way things have ended up around here. Poor RSS. They’re so hopeless they don’t even get mentioned in conversation. GCM has a pretty rich pool of talent in their attendance zone, but there’s so many other programs with their fingers in the pie that there’s no way to get those kids in the door for 9th grade. You realize the Baytown Chargers Youth Fooball kids play more games per season in North Shore than Baytown? Ever notice GCM’s feeder Jr Schools play Cunningham, etc while the others in town don’t? GCM’s talent/parents are getting looked at and talked to from elementary school on up.

Yeah, I don’t BLAME folks for transferring their kids out either. I simply mention on here that these things happen and there’s folks who just don’t like hearing that. You’re right that it’s a sad situation.

You’re right and you’re wrong. You’re right that there isn’t enough talent in the schools. There IS a lot of talent in the attendance zones, but most of it transfers out. I’m not faulting anyone, just pointing out the facts. ”Voting down Bond proposals”. You think giving GCCISD a Billion dollars is going to solve anything? They’ll just blow it all on shiny toys like they did the last few times we gave them money and then be right back where they are again. “Why won’t anyone run for Board spots?” Well, since there’s nothing anyone can do including Board members to right the ship why run and “win” just to have your name and face attached to the whole thing when it comes crashing down? All I’m doing is pointing out facts. Now, there’s folks who don’t like those facts, folks who love to try to distract from those facts when they get brought up, but no amount of distractions or whataboutisms or yeahbuts are gonna ever change the facts. They are what they are.

Yeah, right, like folks on here can’t read your prior posts. With friends like these… I mean, it’s not like we in Baytown don’t support BH. GCCISD sends BH 100 students a year by way of transfer. That’s twice as many as we send North Shore, Deer Park, and La Porte. I wonder how many of those 100 a year end up in the BH football program? Not just talking about High School transfers either. I’m talking about how many BH players are Jr High transfers out of GCCISD too. Don’t believe me? Read it yourself. [Hidden Content] Goose Creek CISD Demographic Study.pdf

They can’t. They’re broke and can’t pass a Bond.