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It's not the most popular thing but it's not completely unheard of. My point is a track is not a good idea but turf is not much better. So pointing out a lack of common sense while suggesting turf doesn't make sense to me

Bro I really don't feel like even entertaining you because your motives aren't genuine at all but to answer your question there was only one girl complaining at Caldwell because there was only one girl participating in the exercise. Meanwhile there were 10 complaints about a bear crawl incident in Crandall a couple years back.

Athletes don't always complain about these type of injuries. That type of behavior is just not encouraged in athletic circles. You know that. Mothers don't always take their children to the ER for burns/blisters and if they go to the ER they're not always referred to the burn unit. Scenarios just don't always play out like this but if they did lots of coaches would constantly be in trouble. There was a 7th grade girl who publicly complained of 2nd degree burns she got from bear crawls on a turf field last April in Caldwel though. And turf gets hotter than grass or asphault regardless of what type of filler is used by the way

Do you know if the turf hasn't caused burns/blisters in the past?

It's easy for us to be super critical of the guy's mistake from the outside looking in but these suggestions make it clear some of us might not have done much better. The track definitely wasn't a good idea but the turf might not have been much better. Yall know how hot turf gets?

OK yall still gave up 100 plus and half the 165 was because EW barely even put a defense on the field

Rather get shut out in state game than give up 130 plus first 3 rounds of playoffs.

We'll see. Hopefully yalls secondary don't get torched all durring the playoffs again

He's just a young guy who made a mistake and has allready paid for it more than some others in the past have. There was a coach in Alabama who had a simular issue a while back and he didn't even lose his job till he voluntarily resigned later. Much less get criminally charged. Like I said the kids hands will eventually heal. You can't erase what has allready happened but you can try to prevent it from happening again. And he won't be able to do it at WISD again because he's been fired. There's nothing else to be done at this point unless your gonna go charge all the teachers who have made kids do bear crawls previously. Hey let's charge the cheerleading instructors who allow little girls to do cartwheels and what not on the track Saturday evenings at this point. Like, what are we doing here? This stuff has to be fair across the board. Can't just have super severe punishment for certain people and let others get away scott-free.

Yea I saw that and also saw he had losing seasons 2 out of 4 years going 0-10 one year. That's not enough consistency for me to be sure if he "brought" them to 5/2 or if he just arrived at a good time? Granted he'll probably have some good years at Woodville but if he turns out not to be that good of a head coach that could make our chances of making another state run a bit slimmer

So if a 6-30 guy comes from a 6A school to Newton you'd assume that's a good hire for Newton just because he comes from a 6A school?

Getting scrapes and blisters from bear crawls is not uncommon although nobody has ever been criminally charged for having kids do bear crawls before. And in this case the kids chose to do bear crawls so that would be some bs to criminally charge him for this in my opinion. He lost his job and although it's terrible this happened to the kids their hands will eventually heal. That should be enough

OK

He gave the kids 2 options for 2 different workouts in an "athletic" class. That's not pressure. Having kids do a common exercise on a track is not negligence or omission. If he left them there unattended maybe it would be. Law enforcement is investigating because that's what they're supposed to do when something is presented to them by parents.

There has to be some knowledge of potential danger for kids getting injured during a common exercise to be considered child endangerment. You making "2 choices" out to be some type of "pressure applied" seems like a desperate attempt to build your own case to me

I have no clue. I allready said that wasn't a good idea and I could understand why he would be fired and possibly never be able to coach again but Mr. Falcon is trying to build a criminal case against him as if he intentionally set out to cause harm to the kids.

Thats not pressure. They allready knew they would be working out in a "pre-athletic" class anyway. Like I said they were given 2 choices and they chose the bear crawls. AND there were some who still sat out even after they chose the bear crawls. Yes, some kids might have felt the need to make a good impression but they still had options from what's been presented.

How not?

Pressured how? They were given 2 options. Its athletics

Doesn't fall under that category far as I can see

What statute?

Every situation is unique. Not many times will you see 2 situations that are exactly the same. Still doesn't make him a criminal

Never seen a workout where several 6th graders had to go to the ER but I've seen incidents where several probably should have. Back then you probably only went if you lost fingers or toes

I've seen many incidents happen with 6th graders during workouts, in the weight room etc. Theyre 6th graders so most of them don't know how to do things properly. Mix that with a first year coach and there's a real good chance for some accidents

There are multiple incidents where kids are injured during a drill initiated by a coach. Doesn't always result in criminal charges against the coach. This is a first year coach who's mentor left for another job. You have to consider there's a chance he might not have been aware of some things he probably should be aware of. A huge mistake doesn't necessarily make him a criminal.