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"Knowingly" is the key word there and from what I hear they were given 2 choices and they chose bear crawls. Some decided they didn't want to do the bear crawls and they weren't forced to do so. Those who said they wanted to complete the activity were encouraged to do so. Was it intelligent to encourage kids who wanted to bear crawl on a hot track? Absolutely not. But was it criminal? Only if he was aware of the harm it could do or was doing. I doubt he understood the severity of the situation.

I think it would have to be intentional to be considered child endangerment. It's gone be hard to stick someone with child endangerment for allowing them to participate in an exercise that's been a part of school activities for decades. He could possibly lose his license or never be allowed to coach again just for being seen as unfit or unresponsible but I doubt they can stick him with child endangerment

What exactly would they charge him with?

They were 11-12 year olds. Not anywhere near adults yet but I would think old enough to forfeit an activity causing bodily harm. I would think they would have a better idea if the ground was burning the skin off their hand than he did.

I don't see how that would go far if he didn't personally inflict injuries on them. From what I hear it was an optional workout and some kids opted out with no consequences.

Understood. Most people around town who know him don't believe he intentionally wanted to harm the kids. He's just a guy who's passionate about the game and the program and kids and values toughness because that's what was taught to him in the program. He just went too far this time and I don't think he was aware of the harm it was causing the kids at the time. Lot of folks will say he "should've known" and I don't disagree with that but we've all probably had moments where we weren't aware of things we "should've known".

There's nothing else to it other than some baseless gossip from some random guy who called and told it to the page that's publicizing this info. He doesn't have any prior incidents because this is his first year coaching. He's a hometown guy who played for coach Rob 5 or 6 years ago. Went and had a good college carreer at Texas Wesleyan and came back and helped coach us to the state game his first year as an assistant coach. It hurts my heart that we're losing him but I hope he learns from this mistake and doesn't have any other incidents if he's allowed to continue coaching somewhere else. From what I hear he was just basically trying to put the young 6th graders through something simular to what him and his classmates went through and the workout was optional.

Maybe so and it wouldn't mean a thing when the whistle blows to start the game. How many stars did this year's #1 draft pick have in high school?

They think he could probably be really good in the future. Same as many d1 programs feel about many other young athletes

Definitely more valuable than being unsuccessful as a HC or coordinator. But if you have successful HCs or coordinators applying than I'd probably give them the edge

I think it's weird you get enjoyment out of these situations but I see what your saying. I've never been one to advocate for Rob leaving although I didn't agree with everything he did for this very reason. It's like the school board just goes "any-many-miny-moe." Hope I'm wrong and things work out really well

I understand it looks good on a resume but I think it's an overrated credential

Don't look to good other than Colmesneil to be honest though 😆

Think he did a good job at Colmesneil if I'm not mistaking

Newton's loaded. It'll be tough to beat them regardless of who's coaching

Didn't really have anybody in particular in mind because I didn't know who was available. Was hoping the people in charge could skim through the list and select a legit candidate. Was made to believe Neece from Anahuac may or may not have been available. I probably would rather have Neece over Clawson but we have what we have now and I'll just hope for the best. Hopefully I'm wrong

I noticed that. He had 2 winning seasons durring his 4 year stay. Could be a good sign or it could be him landing there at the right time. Also noticed they gave up 30 plus 7 times last year. 60 plus 4 times. We may have given up 30 plus 7 or 8 times the last 4 or 5 years. Can't remember the last time we gave up 60 and don't want to start that now. That being said I think it would probably be best to leave that DC where he found him. I've looked at some clips from Elgin's offense last year and liked some of the things I saw. I think we could have some success if we could manage to get a good DC

Aye, may be better to be a ball boy also in that case

Not downing him, just being honest. Doesn't look like a great hire based on what I can see so far. He's 26-51 as a head coach. Has 2 rings as an assistant at Aledo but you can only give him so much credit for winning a ring a an assistant. I'd give him more credit for that if he was at least a coordinator. Did seem to show a little improvement as a HC after his couple years at Aledo but there's not enough proof for me to be sure of that. He had winning seasons 2 of 4 years at Elgin. Don't know how much of that was due to coaching or just talent coming and going at Elgin. We'll see how it goes. I'm definitely hoping for the best though

He was one of 20 assistants at Aledo

Understood but I'm hoping this time is the exception at least for now. Just not real comfortable with a 26-51 guy coming in not knowing much about our kids and completely doing his own thing without someone who's been here a while to help him along. And him being an offensive guy makes it even more important that we get a really good DC

That's great if he does but we need a solid DC also since our DC went to Lufkin I believe. We have a OC who knows our kids. Don't want to lose all the people who allready have relationships and a good guage on our kids abilities

Yea, and it was a questionable decision

Which brings us back to my original question

Final decision came down to the school board I believe but I hear they let the firm do most of the work