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Rather get shut out in state game than give up 130 plus first 3 rounds of playoffs.

We'll see. Hopefully yalls secondary don't get torched all durring the playoffs again

He's just a young guy who made a mistake and has allready paid for it more than some others in the past have. There was a coach in Alabama who had a simular issue a while back and he didn't even lose his job till he voluntarily resigned later. Much less get criminally charged. Like I said the kids hands will eventually heal. You can't erase what has allready happened but you can try to prevent it from happening again. And he won't be able to do it at WISD again because he's been fired. There's nothing else to be done at this point unless your gonna go charge all the teachers who have made kids do bear crawls previously. Hey let's charge the cheerleading instructors who allow little girls to do cartwheels and what not on the track Saturday evenings at this point. Like, what are we doing here? This stuff has to be fair across the board. Can't just have super severe punishment for certain people and let others get away scott-free.

Yea I saw that and also saw he had losing seasons 2 out of 4 years going 0-10 one year. That's not enough consistency for me to be sure if he "brought" them to 5/2 or if he just arrived at a good time? Granted he'll probably have some good years at Woodville but if he turns out not to be that good of a head coach that could make our chances of making another state run a bit slimmer

So if a 6-30 guy comes from a 6A school to Newton you'd assume that's a good hire for Newton just because he comes from a 6A school?

Getting scrapes and blisters from bear crawls is not uncommon although nobody has ever been criminally charged for having kids do bear crawls before. And in this case the kids chose to do bear crawls so that would be some bs to criminally charge him for this in my opinion. He lost his job and although it's terrible this happened to the kids their hands will eventually heal. That should be enough

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He gave the kids 2 options for 2 different workouts in an "athletic" class. That's not pressure. Having kids do a common exercise on a track is not negligence or omission. If he left them there unattended maybe it would be. Law enforcement is investigating because that's what they're supposed to do when something is presented to them by parents.

There has to be some knowledge of potential danger for kids getting injured during a common exercise to be considered child endangerment. You making "2 choices" out to be some type of "pressure applied" seems like a desperate attempt to build your own case to me

I have no clue. I allready said that wasn't a good idea and I could understand why he would be fired and possibly never be able to coach again but Mr. Falcon is trying to build a criminal case against him as if he intentionally set out to cause harm to the kids.

Thats not pressure. They allready knew they would be working out in a "pre-athletic" class anyway. Like I said they were given 2 choices and they chose the bear crawls. AND there were some who still sat out even after they chose the bear crawls. Yes, some kids might have felt the need to make a good impression but they still had options from what's been presented.

How not?

Pressured how? They were given 2 options. Its athletics

Doesn't fall under that category far as I can see

What statute?

Every situation is unique. Not many times will you see 2 situations that are exactly the same. Still doesn't make him a criminal

Never seen a workout where several 6th graders had to go to the ER but I've seen incidents where several probably should have. Back then you probably only went if you lost fingers or toes

I've seen many incidents happen with 6th graders during workouts, in the weight room etc. Theyre 6th graders so most of them don't know how to do things properly. Mix that with a first year coach and there's a real good chance for some accidents

There are multiple incidents where kids are injured during a drill initiated by a coach. Doesn't always result in criminal charges against the coach. This is a first year coach who's mentor left for another job. You have to consider there's a chance he might not have been aware of some things he probably should be aware of. A huge mistake doesn't necessarily make him a criminal.

"Knowingly" is the key word there and from what I hear they were given 2 choices and they chose bear crawls. Some decided they didn't want to do the bear crawls and they weren't forced to do so. Those who said they wanted to complete the activity were encouraged to do so. Was it intelligent to encourage kids who wanted to bear crawl on a hot track? Absolutely not. But was it criminal? Only if he was aware of the harm it could do or was doing. I doubt he understood the severity of the situation.

I think it would have to be intentional to be considered child endangerment. It's gone be hard to stick someone with child endangerment for allowing them to participate in an exercise that's been a part of school activities for decades. He could possibly lose his license or never be allowed to coach again just for being seen as unfit or unresponsible but I doubt they can stick him with child endangerment

What exactly would they charge him with?

They were 11-12 year olds. Not anywhere near adults yet but I would think old enough to forfeit an activity causing bodily harm. I would think they would have a better idea if the ground was burning the skin off their hand than he did.

I don't see how that would go far if he didn't personally inflict injuries on them. From what I hear it was an optional workout and some kids opted out with no consequences.

Understood. Most people around town who know him don't believe he intentionally wanted to harm the kids. He's just a guy who's passionate about the game and the program and kids and values toughness because that's what was taught to him in the program. He just went too far this time and I don't think he was aware of the harm it was causing the kids at the time. Lot of folks will say he "should've known" and I don't disagree with that but we've all probably had moments where we weren't aware of things we "should've known".