TheTruth34
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On 3/22/2020 at 7:41 PM, TxHoops said:
I do. Cunningham would easily be the best player in that league right now (he will be drafted first or second in the 2021 draft most likely) and Barnes would be the best player in the league if Cunningham wasn’t in it (he is almost a lock lottery pick, one and done). Potentially, you are talking about a HS team with 6 future NBA players on it. I probably was a little conservative. They might beat every team in that league (SFA might be tough). And that is no disrespect the Southland. That’s how good MV is. (And Cunningham will be the best player in the Big 12 next season by the way.)
Over a year later and Cade is the projected #1 pick. That Monteverde team will have 3 guys go top 10 in this years draft. Potentially two top 5 picks.
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Congrats to Coach Rideaux. I look forward to seeing him turn around another program like he did at HF. Wonder if his doubters are still around these days...
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1 hour ago, Topdawg25 said:
Any chance Harrison and Kopp stay ?
Kopp committed to UMKC a couple of days ago.
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1 hour ago, BlueOwl said:
Is anyone surprised about this other than @TxHoops?
Yes I would say so. When he got hired Lamar went from not offering a local kid a scholarship in years to having at least one local kid on the team every season. If you ask me, that’s a welcomed change to the program. Also, he is widely respected by college head coaches across America. But I’m sure you know more than they do.
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5 hours ago, mrtomcat said:
That means nothing. Go look at any boys basketball program in the last 50 years (as long as I have been around) in SouthEast Texas. If the team has a D1 basketball player returning, that team will finish 1st or 2nd in their district HANDS DOWN 10000000% of the time. There is not an argument that opposes this fact.
Agreed. Coach Mitchell deserves all of the credit in the world, but returning a D1 player of that size and skill will get you first or second in that district.
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Great game from Coach Rideaux and the Longhorns. Best coach in the area. I can only imagine what he would do with Silsbee level talent.
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43 minutes ago, Hooohead.com said:
You all are correct but I do know for 100% certainty that in Texas you can put a team together that would not only beat them but a double digit win against MV and they all wont be Seniors either....
I would like to see this team...
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13 hours ago, bayou city 713 said:
Where and when did I say a team from Texas this year could beat them ? Reread my post please
15 hours ago, bayou city 713 said:This has not been the first team a high school team has been stacked like that. Any given year these teams are beatable by special local teams.
I was saying that this past season there were no “special local teams” that could’ve competed with MVA.
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27 minutes ago, bayou city 713 said:
This has not been the first team a high school team has been stacked like that. Any given year these teams are beatable by special local teams.
There’s not a single team in Texas that would’ve beaten Montverde this past year.
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18 minutes ago, TxHoops said:
I’ve posted before, there several guys I see each summer that I think, he’s got a shot to be a pro. Then there may be one or two that you see and think, this kid is a pro right now. Summer before last, it was Anthony Edwards (who may go 1 overall in this draft). Last summer it was Cunningham (and Chet Holmgren who is only a junior now).
Serious question - speaking of Holmgren (who I know you’ve seen many times), this year as a 17 year old kid, what could he have done in a league like the Southland?
Like CC, he would be conference player of the year right now. Kids like that are on a different level. He’s 7’2 and would be by far the most skilled player in the conference. Just a different atmosphere of talent. And yes, he is just 17.
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29 minutes ago, TxHoops said:
Before they saw Lebron as rookie in the league? Yes they would be making this same argument.
I think if everyone in the discussion were familiar with the players and talent on Montverde’s roster, they would understand the gap in ability.
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2 minutes ago, bayou city 713 said:
Tucker is a specialist in the nba that knows what his role wit the rockets . He wasn’t a hot prospect coming out of Ut . He was drafted in the 2nd round and was a journeyman just like a couple of those southland conference players will be , some will go over seas , some into the nba Undrafted and be specialist .. all college players are closer to being a finished product and knowing their roles than High school players
Just think about this. If Cade Cunningham wasn’t forced to play college basketball, odds are he would declare for the NBA draft where he would be a top 5 pick. Instead of just labeling him as an inexperienced high schooler, think of him that way. I don’t want to take anything away from SFA because I saw them play and they are very good and very well coached. We’re just talking about two different calibers of talent. Obviously CC is not Lebron but would you be making this same argument against Lebron’s HS team? Just because he was 18?
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3 minutes ago, bayou city 713 said:
Bruh I think u missed my point .. I know there’s a difference. I’m just saying from a competition standpoint.
the point I’m trying to make is that regardless of sport it’ll be Very hard for an elite group of kids that are 15-18 to beat college Level kids that are 17-22..one of the main reasons is due to the 17-22 year old group having faced elite experience and competition. Experience and competition that you can’t replicate on the high school level.. only my opinion tho ..lol
You’re 100% accurate. Experience definitely makes a huge difference. Talent also matters. If we took MVA’s players when they are 20-22 and matched them against SFA they would win by 40 points or more. Experience is the only reason this is an argument to begin with.
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Just now, bayou city 713 said:
Pj tucker uses other things that comes with experience and being a NBA veteran to make up for his lack of height and other deficiencies . The best big man in college would struggle vs him, he’ll they would even struggle vs harden down low. You guys are u underrating basketball experience , and basketball experience vs competition.
I completely agree. They best college basketball team would have zero chance against the worst NBA team. The NBA is filled the the most elite basketball talent across the world. In the SFA vs. Montverde topic. MVA has multiple guys that will play in the NBA one day and SFA has none. College big men would struggle against Tucker because he is one of the best 300 basketball players in the world, not just because of experience.
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4 hours ago, stevenash said:
One of the points being made was that if the post man is several inches taller and also quicker, that "mismatch" would be quickly and often exploited. I have watched PJ Tucker against several different competent big men, and that "exploitation" rarely comes to pass
The point I was trying to make is that the rockets can use small ball effectively because it creates mismatches from the quickness of the lineup. They run a 5 out set and rely on their two star guards to create. Why running PJ tucker works is because he draws the big out of the paint because his corner three ball draws respect and attention. He’s also quick enough to drive by most bigs on close outs. SFA’s big is a liability on offense so he would just be a mismatch with no benefit on the offensive end. Also to your point, the NBA today hardly ever feeds bigs down low. A lot of NBA bigs don’t even have polished post skills. Most are either rim running athletic bigs or stretch bigs.
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4 hours ago, Hooohead.com said:
They were very smart...They gave the one person a job who Cade trust throughout the process...His older Brother who now Coaches there...
Yes, Cade was a lock to OK State months before he committed. I will give credit to their coaching staff because they brought in a few more really nice players as well. Should be a great year for Oklahoma State basketball next year.
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3 hours ago, stevenash said:
I am reading all of these exchanges with a great deal of interest. If I am understanding you all correctly, then the Houston Rockets should be losing every game with the biggest player on the floor being about 6'6" ( at that level, who the coach is doesnt matter too much because they are all very competent)
What the Rockets do is a little different because they don’t run a big man. They play 5 guards/wings and use the speed and quickness of the small ball lineup to their advantage. SFA doesn’t play this way. Their pure 5 man is 6’6 and not quick. He’s very strong and plays really hard, but he is not quick at all. He’s very good at what he does and he works very well in the Southland because there’s not too much size in the conference as a whole. MVA’s center, Day’Ron Sharpe, is taller, just as strong, and runs the floor like a guard. It is a matchup nightmare for SFA especially with CC who is a smart PG and will find the mismatch every play.
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54 minutes ago, TxHoops said:
Kind of my thoughts as well on SFA. They were a team deserving of a big dance bid, even if they hadn’t won the SLC tournament. Kevon Harris was easily the best player in the conference this year. Even so, he’s a far cry from an even 18 yo Cunningham, who will be the favorite to be Big XII player of the year next season (maybe the best Big 12 player since KD). And no doubt MV has a far superior front court to SFA.
Still, given what they were able to accomplish this season, I couldn’t favor a HS team over the Jacks. I will say that I’m not sure who Comeaux guards on that team. Every one of their guards is bigger and more skilled. Likewise with SFA’s fronts. They are undersized and less athletic. Still, I have to give props to any team that beats any Coach K Duke team.
But to say MV wouldn’t beat the majority of the SLC teams just simply is naive. A few of those kids will be in the NBA in a little over a year. A couple likely will be starters. And the argument is whether they are the best HS team of all time. A likely contender would be the Ben Simmons, D’Angelo Russell team (also Montverde). Are we going to say that a team with a No 1 overall pick and a No 2 overall pick after one year of college ball wouldn’t beat most mid majors?
Exactly. You have to actually look at the talent on the roster instead of assuming that they have certain limitation just because they are a HS team. I would bet that in a few years when Cade Cunningham is established in the league, the opinions on the conversation will change.
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43 minutes ago, AggiesAreWe said:
I agree.
You are looking at what SFA did this year and not looking at the matchups. No offense to SFA’s big but a slow 6’6 big man can’t stay on the floor with future NBA bigs. Also, you can’t name one player on SFA’s entire roster that can guard a 6’7 point guard that will be in the mix for the #1 pick in the 2021 NBA draft. No discredit to what SFA accomplished this season. They play very hard and are very well coached. But when you put them on the same floor with guys who could play in the NBA right now, their talent can’t stack up. I’m not saying they have no shot, but it would be an upset, just like against Duke.
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21 hours ago, bayou city 713 said:
I can agree with them dragging yates but a mid level D1 college team idk bruh .. especially a team full of upperclassmen ... the iq and physical level of 21-22 year olds .. idk bruh !!
I watched every single Southland team play this year at least once if not twice. I can safely say that Monteverde would beat every team in the conference. Take SFA, the best team in the conference by far. Their big man is about 6’6-6-7, 260 lbs. In pick and rolls he cannot possible guard MVA’s quick bigs. MVA is also coached by a HS coaching legend, Kevin Boyle, who could be at a plethora of Power 5 schools if he wanted to be. He is a good enough coach to immediately see that mismatch and score at will. The matchups just aren’t there even for the most dominant team in the conference. Also worth noting, Cade Cunningham runs that show and he may be 18 years old but had the body AND mind of a 25 year old.
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5 minutes ago, HOOPDR3AMS said:
What is the worst part?
Co-Offensive Player of the Year is pretty bad... I’ve seen both of those players multiple times and one is miles ahead of the other.
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14 hours ago, Hagar said:
I posted when HF got him that they’d see a big improvement. My G’son played for him in Ltown last year and thought the world of him. So happy for him and the whole community.
Btw, has anyone noticed an increase in HF crowd support from previous years?
I have never seen HF get crowds like this.
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Also gotta love the "no comment" from the superintendent when he was asked about it. Whoever lands this job is a lucky man!