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Mosley was way more dynamic. He was faster, had really good hands (you could split him out wide), was very good at picking up the blitz, was shifty, and powerful. While Grogan has some of these traits as well he doesn't posses all of them.

Seems like the Muff just killed them after that.

I think the muff had very little to do with the outcome. Even if we don't muff that kick, we come out in a tight/jumbo formation and try to run against 10 men in the box and get nowhere! Score might have been 34-21, that's about the only difference. Had to be alive before the muff to have been killed after it.  ;D

I noticed he is also a guest!

Think his Blood Pressure is up?? ;D

Again produce one post that stats that the officiating was the reason PNG lost.

I think I read were both Nederland and PNG fans were confussed by some of the calls or how the penalties were accessed. Don't lump PNG fans into that excuses category. There are always reasons why one team won and another lost. Most PNG and Nederland fans are knowledgable enough in the game to recognize.

I for one will stand by my thoughts that if PNG would have come out in the mutliple receiver sets and winged it a little from the get go, it would have been one exciting back and forth contest. I still think Nederland wins, but in a close high scoring battle. I just don't think the total athletes are different. I think if neuman and crew were coaching PNG, PNG wins!

Produce one post that indicates that PNG lost due to officiating!

I'll give you the out coached thing, but Nederland has had that advantage since Neuman came on board. ;D

It doesn't have to be a block in the back for the block to carry the defender into the punt returner.

You are correct, but when you see it on replay you will see that it should have been a block in the back.

Also on the kick return before the waved of penalty occured, the PNG receiver waved his hand in the air once (I think to signal he had it) then took off running. Should have been a penalty on PNG. Oh Well. They ain't right all the time! ;D

Maybe he just got tired of wearing PURPLE. Scientific studies have proven that the color purple can make some people physically ill if exposed to for long durations. I know it makes me sick to look at it.  Besides, black & gold looks much cooler.  :

Black and gold looks like something that I coughed up during a nasty sinus infection!  ;D

I don't think he has said yet.

UNLV, you do realize that LU shut down it's program in the late 80's for lack of money and local interest?

I think most of us LU fans and alumni want LU to play with the big dogs some day, but I don't want to be their whipping boys. I'd rather establish that we can fill the seats as designed and show a need for expansion, than have 12,000 show up and have 18,000 empty seats! That's just common sense to us backwoods country bumpkins.  ;D

                        Capacity          Avg        %      Empty Seats

La-monroe            30K              16K          54          14,000

La-tech                30K              18K          60          12,000

ULL                      30K              16K        54          14,000

Southern Miss.        33K              27K          81          6,000 (no real competition for the entertainment dollar)

"The fair catch bobble does nullify a fair catch from my understanding"

Not true...If a fair catch signal is made the receiver can bounce the ball all over his body until he catches it and the defenders have to give him room. But once it hits the ground it's a live ball.

"and the guy was blocked into the receiver on that play."

It looked like such was the case, but if so why no flag on PNG for illegal block in the back??

I thought for the most part the crew did pretty good with the execption of that one brain fart they had. I doubt all 12,000 people have ever left MCM without at least one fan complaing about the officiating. 

There's a Coach at Kelly that would like the LC-M Job. 

That could be a good move on his part. LCM is very young and with the right direction could be dangerous in a couple of years. I think NDN nation really has it's heart set on Long becoming Burnett's sucessor some day. Not sure though that if it doesn't happen soon that it will ever happen because Long will be established elsewhere. It may end up being D. Long  ;D.

YAW 

I feel just the opposite of some posters.  i thought PNG could have run inside all night.  The coach panicked too early and went to the passing game.  PNG defense is weak but  they could have held onto the ball and played keep away.   I think they were outcoached.

I don't know about being in a panic but PNG looks like they have a strong passing game. I think they should have gone to is sooner. That is not their tradition of student body right or left and ball control but I think they need to be passing more often. I think PNG has the people to pull it off.

You are absolutely correct tvc. Should be spreading the field some early in games to allow for those wider running lanes. You cant over power teams in the playoffs. PNG's best team in the past 30 years (1999) spread teh field out and was very balanced and scored at will. This team has the talent to do the same with Tatum at QB and DeRon, Segura and Ceigelski at WR, two good TE's, a good line and two good backs! Drives us PNG fans insane that everyone sees it but the guy calling the shots. It will be interesting to see if Matt learned anything from this loss. Or if whatever his OC and QB coach where arguing with him about sank in??

The play hapened on second down.

1. Nederland should not have declined the holding. That makes it loss of ten from the hold and repeat 2nd down. Then the 15 yard (or half the distance to the goal line) dead ball penalty (because it hapened way after the play on the way back to the huddle) should have been assesed. So it should have been 2nd down and 25+ yards to go.

2. Since Nederland declined the holding it should have been the result of the play (which was a run for first down). then the dead ball 15 yarder should have been marked off from the end of the run. And it should have been 1st and 10 from that spot...Granted Nederland would never have declined the holding to let this happen!

3. Instead the officials really botched this one and it took them 5 minutes to get it wrong! They said Nederland declined the holding and excepted the Dead Ball foul (see scenario 1). And they gave PNG the ball with a 3rd down and 20+ yards!!!

They were obviously very confussed as where both coaches (actually PNG was irrate). But in the long run it wasn't the officiating that killed PNG it was Nederland's offense and our coaches refusal to realize they were in a shootout no mater how much he hated it until it was too late!

PNG is lucky Bellows was a little off Saturday night. He missed several wide open receivers on deep routes and he normally doesn't miss on the deep passes. People don't realize how hard it will be to stop Nederland with the offense they have in place. They come at a defense from every angle, all they needed was some sort of decent running game and they found one in Grogan, a good one, and Bellows great to see him carry the ball also. PNG is still a good team as some of you will find out, and they had no answers. Central has a running game and a sound defense, but Nederland's WR's run great rts, it will be hard for Central to stay with our WR's and help contain Grogan. Central better control the ball with their running game better than PNG did or they won't  keep our offense from putting up points either.

    In Order:

1. Nederland

2. PNG

3. Central

4. Vidor

     

u really think centrals corners can't hang with yall's receivers?

I think what he is saying is that now with Grogan toting the pigskin, that you can stop the pass, but not the run or vise versa. I think everyone in Nederland knows that Central has the athletes to go toe to toe with their wideouts, but in order to do so you have to play more DB's and be less physical up front, which doesn't bode well against Nederlands OLine and Grogan. PNG did a very good job on Cardenas and Brady, but we couldn't get pressure on Bellows because of the new found running attack and he found some of his other options open.

I don't really see Lumberton as being slower than Vidor. I think our main problem is the coach should've sat the 1st string O and D down at the beginning of the 3rd quarter in the Livingston game and only used them if we got in a bind. Instead he played them into the first part of the fourth quarter and we have too many 2-way players for that. that's why they fired off hard the first half on Vidor but were basically gone by the second half. Needed better time management for this week.

???Didn't Vidor play Tuesday evening as well? :

One question for you Dog fans:

Is there anyone that was at the game last night sitting on the home side that watched PNG's offense in the first quarter and a half, that didn't know what was coming? Against 10 men in the box at that???????

Maybe the cheerleaders.

Only because they were facing the crowd  ;D

Even though I graduated from PNG, I have lived in Nederland for the last 20 years. My wife graduated from Nederland and my kids go to Nederland schools. So to make a long story short, I am a huge Bulldog fan. I can not express how excited I am that Nederland kicked PNG's butt last night. It seems everytime PNG beats Ned the PNG fans like to rub it in the bulldog faces. I am usually not like that. When PNG won last year they were even at the Ned vs PNG basketball game flashing the football score and rubbing it in.  Well I guarentee you I will rub it in their faces this year every chance I get. Hahahahahhahaahaha, Ned. kicked your sorry Indian butt all over the field. Big Ned just pooped all over your Purple Pride!

If you honestly believe that when Nederland wins, which has been more often than not since Burnett took over, that Nederland fans and friends don't do the same for 365 days then you are totally dillusional!

The game wasn't even over with and some of my Nederland buddies were already sending vulgar text messages about how "PNG Sux" and this and that, but I realize as do most true fans of this rivalry that it is all in good fun. They really don't hate! This is why the game is played, for the kids and the fans to have fun and enjoy the bragging rights. Besides, I'd be willing to bet that last year when people were bustin' your chops about PNG winning, you were telling everyone that you were a PNG fan!  ;D (Trust me, the Purple Pride wouldn't have you back. We hate stepping in Dog crap!)

My understanding was that after last season Dodge fired his long time defensive coordinator that he brought from SLC, which I am sure was difficult, and hired someone with college experience. Looks like that ain't workin' out either!

Again, North Texas has 35,000 students, a program that is not coming back from the dead, and is the public University of the Metroplex (a 5 million market) with 5 times the alumni and support that LU has.

Lets make Cardinal stadium appealing to the local fans first and draw 18,000 per before we start expanding.

If all my picks are correct after week three it will look like this:

Nederland -------- 3 - 0

Central ----------  2 - 1

PNG -------------  2 - 1

Vidor ------------  2 - 1

Lumberton ------  2 - 1

Livingston -------  1 - 2

Ozen ------------  0 - 3

LCM -------------  0 - 3

Thats five teams pushing hard for four spots. Fun stuff!

Vidor Pie Rats go into the babe and hunt down some big game (Panthers) in a close battle.

Vidor 21

Ozen 14

The Bears comes out inspired against the Dogs and puts a rea......Oh wait sorry not the Chicago Bears, but the LCM Bears. No inspirational leaders! ;D

Dogs  49

Bears  6

Lumberton comes out fired up and in a bit of a surprise knocks off the Jags in front of the home crowd to really tighten up the district race:

Lum  24

Cen  21