TexasTerror

If Texas A&M moves leagues, there is a possibility - even with the game on 'opening weekend' - that the two schools could be in a situation where they'd have to move the game to a later year. Seen it happen a few times and the schools would likely work amicably to reschedule.

Woodard gave an accurate assessment about certain fans on the two major Lamar boards... but we'll leave it for what it is. [quote]"These people on the Internet who think it's going to happen, [b]they're living 30 years ago[/b]," Woodard said. "I'm sorry. Why would Baylor pass up millions of dollars to come here? It's just not going to happen. They need to let that go."[/quote] Anyone who has a clue needs to realize that as some of you have said - a BCS team will not come to Lamar until it is an FBS team. There are the odd exceptions (Ball State is heading to Illinois State in the next few years). Lamar will be able to get BCS teams when that move to FBS occurs, just like Texas St-San Marcos is set to do and even schools like ULM (Baylor coming up) and UL-Lafayette (Oklahoma State) have done. You can not tell me that a FBS-level ULM can do something that a FBS-level Lamar can not do. Dabe is so confused and off-base with his assessment. If he is going to write an article based on what UNLV has to say to get some attention, the Beaumont Enterprise really is stretching for content.

[quote name="UNLV" post="1011897" timestamp="1305649658"]Nor does it matter or makes any common sense. Many think next years vote by UTSA and Texas st makes Lamar a lock for the WAC, I don't. But lets say it does, then what sense does it make to block Lamar this year and get the conference out of default. Either the WAC is very stupid or there is something big coming to the WAC that does not involve Lamar.[/quote] Comes down to timeline... the WAC can not have all these FCS schools playing full league schedules at once. If you bring in Lamar now, you will have LU and UTSA both on the same timeline making a mess of '12 scheduling, since neither could have full WAC schedules... 2012 - TXST counts as FBS, UTSA counts as FCS (Lamar counts as FCS) 2013 - TXST & UTSA count as FBS (Lamar does too) Best bet is Lamar in all sports including football in '13.

[quote name="UNLV" post="1009571" timestamp="1305247636"]Yeah I know that rule. Rules can be changed or Lamar joins the Summit. We would kick butt there in every sport.[/quote] What benefit does Summit League get from adding Lamar? They've "centralized" more in the midwest. Your opinions are so completely asinine, it is unbelievable. As mentioned on  BRI - you are giving Lamar a very bad name on the message boards with many of your viewpoints posted under the 'Craps' name elsewhere.

[quote name="UNLV" post="1008761" timestamp="1305124078"]Lamar should have a plan B ready, the SBC. Lamar could get an invite for football only and act as UALR football to keep the balance.The SLC did put in place a rule preventing schools in the SLC from joining other conferences as football members. I think something can be worked out since Lamar has yet to join SLC football. [/quote] Lamar has already joined the Southland Conference for football - it is pretty ironclad at this point. Have they played a SLC game? Nope - but they are on all the schedules for next year and counting as a league game.

1) The WAC commish speaking came from UTSA's beat writer 2) The rest of the story is opinionated by Matt Peloquin 3) You missed SHSU... [QUOTE]If four schools are indeed invited, all signs point to the possibility of them being: 1) Lamar: will add an 8th football school and 9th all-sports member 2) Seattle: would be the 10th member but without football; Would provide some access to the Seattle market; close to WAC member Idaho 3) Utah Valley: would be the 11th member, without football. A travel partner for Utah St. 4a) SHSU: would be the 12th member, with football as the 9th member. Woudl allow best geographic division alignment for non-football sports. 4b) CSU Bakersfield: would be the 12th member, without football; Located close enough to SJSU[/QUOTE]

Nothing is official until there is a press release, press conference, etc. The source coachacola referenced to has thrown tons of crap against the wall with most of it not sticking. That's a credible response from me!

[quote name="AJ25" post="999068" timestamp="1303144460"]Even this article was talking about the WAC.. No one can say it's just hearsay anymore.[/quote] The site referenced is a college realignment site primarily... and they have mentioned Lamar to the WAC for some time.

[quote name="coachacola" post="995217" timestamp="1302391363"]Why even include that in the contract if Lamar had no plans to join the WAC or Sun Belt in the near future?[/quote] I'm sure there are several stipulations in there... I've seen game contracts and there's stipulations regarding a school switching conferences and/or NCAA classification, that automatically void contracts. In this case, the stipulation is that if they change classification (FCS to FBS), that there is an increase. It's not surprising...

How's FBS going for them? It's essentially killed off all their other sports. Many of the sports that they were known for prior to going FBS and even when still in the Southland, have fallen so far off the back of the bus - its embarrassing. They are probably the worst-funded FBS program in America, but guess it's okay since they beat that school in Alabama a few years back.

[quote name="mffl" post="992282" timestamp="1301840213"]It was an exhibition game during Roc's first season.[/quote] Correct... and Delta State loss was in 2005-06 season by nine...

[quote name="AggiesWeAreNot" post="992168" timestamp="1301781783"]You're an idiot if you think the top DII teams are better than SLC teams.[/quote] I know you guys lost to TAMU-Kingsville in the last five years... did you also lose to Delta State? I do not think all Division II teams are better than the SLC - but there's not too much disparity in scholarships from Div II to Div I, that it does not surprise me if/when these Div II teams beat low majors...

[quote name="bigred360" post="982019" timestamp="1299971008"]Well, the WNIT must have changed from a couple of years ago. [/quote] Like the NIT - the WNIT did change a few years ago. Their rules are different, as have been noted. [quote author=bigred360 link=topic=81630.msg982019#msg982019 date=1299971008]Really, the debating is pointless and I've made my point. Lamar is playing in the post season and it is great for the program. Automatic bid or at large I don't care.[/quote] Wouldn't be a debate if you folks could interpret the rules and/or read your own school's [url=[Hidden Content] release[/url]. Said release notes, "Under the WNIT's standards, the second-place team in a conference receives the automatic bid should the regular-season champion also win the conference tournament. " It's going to be really scary if Bob West understands this all before long...  ;)

[quote name="bigred360" post="981989" timestamp="1299967268"]I guess that is how you interpret it? The way I see it is if McNeese doesn't win the SLC tournament they would get the automatic bid to the WNIT.[/quote] Correct... but McNeese won the SLC tournament on [url=[Hidden Content]]! So, the automatic bid goes to Lamar... [quote author=geezer link=topic=81630.msg981985#msg981985 date=1299966891]Will wait and see.  The two portions of the invite rules posted would still tend to indicate that LU will receive an invite via the conference qualifier and not as a true at large.  In the first quote it is stated that the WNIT will invite at least one team from each eligible conference.  By part "b" in Bigred360's post Lamar will be the highest placed regular season team assuming they don't get an NCAA at large invite in which case I think UCA or Sam would be next in line.[/quote] Lamar is the next-highest regular season team by virtue of the league's seeding for the conference tournament. They go by the individual league's tiebreaker... SHSU would be crowing about a WNIT if it was happening - it's not.

[quote name="bigred360" post="981972" timestamp="1299965121"]This would be McNeese State as they were the highest-finishing team in the conference regular-season standings. [/quote] Finish reading - "b.) is not selected for the NCAA Tournament. " Lamar is selected by being the highest finishing team that was [b]not[/b] selected for the NCAA Tournament.

Guys - can we please learn how to read? Someone already posted it! You are giving Texas higher education a bad name... ;) [quote]Selecting Teams The WNIT committee will choose 64 teams for its 2011 Postseason WNIT. [b]The field will consist of 31 automatic berths – one from each established conference – and 33 at-large teams. [/b]The intention of the WNIT Selection Committee is to select the 33 best available at-large teams in the nation. [/quote] Even the SWAC guys get it - one team from every conference! It goes in pecking order, so if the No. 1 team from a league (i.e. McNeese) is in the NCAAs, we go to No. 2 which in this case is Lamar. How hard is it?

[quote name="UNLV" post="980275" timestamp="1299718917"] Yeah right. If Sam got the invite, all the katfan yard birds will be celebrating to no end. The only reason you oppose a Sam invite is because Sam is not moving up. [/quote] UNLV - There's more that I can say, but I am not going to elaborate - no reason to get into it with you.

[quote name="JJWooten" post="980240" timestamp="1299709752"]Nope, heard nothing. I doubt it's true, it's probably all talk. The AD hasn't announced anything & newspapers aren't saying anything.[/quote] JJ - glad you are keeping the message consistent. We're better off keeping what we all know behind the scenes. ;)

[quote name="Ryans Dad" post="979482" timestamp="1299612278"]Another coaching change will keep this program in constant dissaray.[/quote] What do you call the current state of the program? [quote author=Ryans Dad link=topic=81354.msg979482#msg979482 date=1299612278]Lamar ain't no Kentucky, Duke or UNC.  The program needs some stability.[/quote] Nope, it's not - but Lamar has more resources in place to consistently compete for the SLC title and postseason opportunities than any of the remaining schools (when UTSA and TXST leave) and anything less, particularly now that Lamar was/is in the SLC East, is an embarassment.

Lamar asked Roc to leave last year... he stayed. If Lamar asks again, he's going to stay as well. Where's all the big money that you guys talk about? If he has one more year, buy him out. WAC... here we come!  ;)

Southeastern La. is running it up on Tulane, another good win... SHSU beat Tulane 3-2 on Friday and fell 3-2 on Saturday & Sunday - awkward, eh? Great wins SLC!

[quote name="TBonesLU" post="969384" timestamp="1298258526"]I am very flattered that other people on these forums that have no affiliation with Lamar have the need to spend time to post on blogs regarding our university. I for one would not waste my time talking on the fan site for Sam Houston, South Dakota, SFA, etc. for a few reasons. Those schools mean nothing to me. They are merely conference foes or schools with which I have no affiliation. I do not mean that as a slight to any of the universities I've mentioned. It just seems those people do not have enough to talk about regarding their own schools. So thank you for making LU a part of your lives. You are only strengthening our publicity and the size of our network. [/quote] You must be a newbie to the boards - fans from different schools in the SLC visit other SLC boards [b]regularly[/b]. MFFL stops in on KatFans.com all the time, as do folks like royallion & geauxlions94 from SLU, RevSFA and SFA71 from SFA and tons of Bobcats (including HPCAT, MaxBobcatCat, chrisattsu, etc). This is very commonplace and there are more... For whatever reason, this board tends to have a person or few who are shocked that other fans particularly from [b]SLC schools[/b] (is Lamar a SLC member?) come by for a visit. Why? TBonesLU - don't become an uneducated Lamar fan. Having fans and insight from around the league your school competes in can only help further educate yourselves on the opponents and the league.

bigred - I was not 'smiting' you - if you were indicating that... [quote name="coachacola" post="969312" timestamp="1298240693"]I wonder why Lamar chose to drop the South Dakota game with a $100K buyout fee and not Texas State which wouldn't have cost Lamar a penny?  Maybe dropping the Texas State game wouldn't have set well in the eyes of the WAC?[/quote] If Lamar put it out there that they were willing to drop that game, they must have looked into the possibilities of doing so. Lamar's best bet would be to move the USD game back a year when they have seven SLC games instead of eight, that way you avoid the buyout likely too...

[quote name="bigred360" post="969204" timestamp="1298209785"]TT, remember when Lamar and TCU were attempting to schedule a game. That was over a month ago and I'm confident that the SD game was going to be nixed then. After the NCAA ruled against the TCU-Lamar game, Lamar scheduled a home game with IW.[/quote] Remember when South Dakota announced their schedule? It was Jan. 27 and South Dakota [url=[Hidden Content] Lamar as part of their schedule[/url]. As of Jan. 27, which was less than [b]over a month ago[/b] (according to you), South Dakota had no clue... bigred - I respect you, but you just got caught with incorrect information. [quote author=bigred360 link=topic=80458.msg969204#msg969204 date=1298209785]Now, if he didn't informed them properly that would be wrong. However, backing out of a contract happens all the time in college athletics. [/quote] And I contend that they were not properly informed based on available information. Seems there is definitely miscommunication between the programs either way. Sayler used to be an Assoc AD at Rice.

[quote name="bigred360" post="968748" timestamp="1298117122"]You don't know the facts Texas Terror. Who do you think made the call at Lamar A. Coach Woodard or B. the AD Coach Tidwell. Well, the correct answer is B. Coach Tidwell wanted another Sept. game at home for the football team. You or anyone else who doesn't like the call he made, then look up his # or email him. [/quote] I got no problem with calling off a game - but it seems USD was not informed properly. SHSU had the same situation occur with Prairie View A&M. AD flat out said no one at PVAMU made the call, even after releasing their schedule. If USD was properly informed - and no indication they were at this point based off what I am hearing/reading - then there is no problem. Buying out games and re-arranging games is nothing new, especially with lengthy trips are involved or more money can be earned another way (ask Montana).