Mean Machine

3rd

Lumberton 48

Vidor 46

2nd

Lumberton 22

Vidor 26

1st Qtr

Lumberton 16

Vidor 11

It is what was on the schedule from back in November, it is on the January practice schedule the girls get, as a home game.

This is what I have and it matched what Van Wade at the Orange Leader had in an article.

Thru Friday (1/4)

Hardin-Jefferson 4-0

Silsbee 4-0

LC-M 2-2

Bridge City 2-2

Lumberton 2-3

Hamshire-Fannett 1-4

WO-S 0-4

From WOSgrad Post:

Tues 1/8 Games

Bridge City at Little Cypress-Mauriceville, 7:00 pm

Silsbee at Hamshire-Fannett, 7:00 pm

West Orange-Stark at Hardin-Jefferson, 6:30 pm

bye Lumberton (Plays Vidor non-district game @ Lumberton)

Fri 1/11 Games

Hardin-Jefferson at Silsbee, 6:30 pm

Little Cypress-Mauriceville at West Orange-Stark, 7:30 pm

Lumberton at Bridge City, 7:00 pm

bye H-F

This gets everyone in the district thru the first half, six games. Rare air at the top of the district, musical chairs for the last two spots halfway thru. Should be interesting second half of the season for all the teams.

Lumberton 48

LCM 56

Final

3:29:left 

Lumberton 44

Lcm 49

3rd qtr

Lumberton 32

LCM 41

2nd qtr

Lumberton 26

LCM 27

1st Qtr

Lumberton 12

LCM 10

I think it probably was changed due to the inequities that could arise from refs that got the "good" games when others did not maybe get the opportunity as much. 

Boys game and girls game the ref can make the same money, so that seems ok. Boys game definitely faster paced, girls game slower, maybe you don't have to run as much, but you in theory blow the whistle more, lol.

One more thought then I'm done with this topic. If the girls game got a larger percentage of the "better" refs who call the game by the book, then in theory wouldn't the girls game have a better chance to improve over time because it would take away the crutch of the coach being able to use overt physicality as a strategy, and make the coach have the girls work on skill and technique more in practices?  

I was informed by a person I know that per UIL rules, refs get paid flat rate plus flat rate travel, depending on distance. The days of percentage of the gate are done. UIL does not assign officials, the local chapters do.

Looks like boys or girls game pays the same. It may be that some refs are "above" reffing girls games, and don't want to ref girls games because the games are slower, more boring, etc.

So if someone says they getting part of the gate, that is not legal per UIL rules, according to the person I know. They used to do it that way, but UIL stepped in and changed it.

Barbers Hill Tournament was two person crews. Not sure about the Saturday games wasn't there. Two is not enough to control game.

5 minutes ago, TxHoops said:

Honestly, I might prefer such officiating in the girls’ games.  (But certainly don’t want anyone hurt obviously.)   Not that there aren’t some that play at a high level.  My wife has long contended that if you played a drinking game at most girls’ games where you had to take a shot anytime there was a foul, jump ball, or a girl hits the floor, no one would make it to halftime without dying of alcohol poisoning.   There are exceptions to the rule but when you are used to watching the boys’ game, most of these I see seem like one long whistle.  

I mentioned that above, that the lack of skill at a typical girls high school game makes the game hard to watch and harder to officiate. My daughter is fortunate to play with a great aau organization and watching one of those games versus a typical high school game is unbelievable. To use your analogy, if you watched one of her aau games, maybe you would leave with only a slight buzz, lol.

The main problem I have is that when the refs allow the overly physical play, it takes away what the skilled player (typically one who has spent many hours doing individual training, etc.) has worked on typically for their aau team. The lesser player in affect is rewarded for not being as good the skilled player. Just kind of frustrating.

First off, I hope the young lady will be ok and has a very speedy and successful recovery from injury.

Secondly, I had a long post typed in on this but deleted it. I will limit it to these points

1) The potential for injury from a poorly controlled game environment from an officiating perspective is what frightens me the most as the parent of a girl basketball player. 

2) There tends to be an overall apathy towards the fact that the girl's game is allowed to be played at an extremely physical level a lot of the times.

3) I believe this is largely done to keep the games at a "manageable" time frame, because of the fundamental overall lack of skilled players on a large number of high school teams' rosters.

4) The product that Refs calling UIL based games deliver should be like getting a Big Mac from McDonalds, i.e. the SAME no matter which one you go to (anywhere in the country), not all over the place in terms of how they call it. 

5) Two refs on the court for Varsity level play is not enough, there needs to be three. The extracurricular stuff that always escalates does so much more in two ref games as opposed to three ref games.

As with all my posts, they are my opinion. My comments are made with the intent to initiate a healthy discussion on a topic that needs to be addressed. 

Nice job United!

I may have switched the GCM and Travis, but I thought I wrote down what the BH Tourney people put up on the sheet that was posted on the wall. I have been known to make an error every now and then, just ask my lovely wife, lol.

Either GCM or Travis will be strong squad, hopefully United is up for the task, I believe they will answer the bell.

5A PA Mem 61 

4A Lumberton 50

Close game throughout, not sure why PAM's strategy is not to run everything thru #5 on EVERY POSESSION, but that's why I'm just a parent in the stands. 

Lumberton 1-3 for tournament. Always tough to take losses, but they saw good competition against teams with size and length and held up fairly well. Hopefully, it will have a positive effect for the rest of district play for the young Raider team

May not be at the games tomorrow, gotta try to work on my house to finish that up, hopefully someone else can catch the rest of the scores to finish it out. Good luck United, it was fun watching y'all some today.

Bronze

West Brook beats Grand Oaks

Dobie beats Lamar

West Brook vs Dobie in bronze championship

Legacy beats Furr

Sterling beats Clear Brook

Legacy vs Sterling in Consolation side

Silver

Morton Ranch beats Humble

Dulles beats Kempner

Morton Ranch vs Dulles in Silver championship

Dekaney beats Lutheran

PA Memorial beats Lumberton 

Dekaney vs PA Memorial in Consolation side

Gold 

Travis beats GCM

United beats Hightower

United vs Travis in the CHIP

Barbers Hill beats Elkins

I don't know who won Alief Taylor vs College Park to round out Consolation side

Gold

Travis beats Barbers Hill

GCM beats Elkins

Hightower beats Alief Taylor

United beats College Park

Silver

Humble beats Lutheran

Morton Ranch beats DeKaney

Dulles beats PA Memorial

Kempner defeats Lumberton 

Bronze

West Brook beats Furr

Grand Oaks beats Legacy

Dobie beats Sterling

Lamar beats Clear Brook

Bronze 

Lamar 59

Clear Brook 48

Silver

6A Krmpner 60

4A Lumnerton 44

Gold

United vs College Park  fixin to tip in two minutes

Gold Bracket (1st Place Pool Play)

330pm Fri

Barbers Hill vs Travis

Elkins vs GCM

Hightower vs Alief Taylor

College Park vs United

Will try to update scores and matchups thru the day

Silver Bracket (2nd Place Pool Play)

2pm Fri

Lutheran vs Humble

DeKaney vs Morton Ranch

Dulles vs PA Memorial

Lumberton vs Fort Bend Kempner