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Seems there's wrong on all sides.  Yes the young lady may have been difficult but if she's observing lent they should have let her eat her food.  The administration handled this badly too.  They ignored this until it got to a point of no return. They trampled the player then the coaches.

This is sad. Players are leaving. I have no confidence in the new A.D.  Looks like they're making up the appeals process as they go. 

I'm really worried about this.

2 hours ago, BS Wildcats said:

He'll never be as big a POS as your man obama.  Now you want to talk about a racist...........!

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2 hours ago, BS Wildcats said:

He'll never be as big a POS as your man obama.  Now you want to talk about a racist...........!

Pointing out inequalities in our justice system isn't being racist. Calling out racism isn't being racist.

I get it. White males don't like Obama. Doesn't bother me one bit. But why all the hurt feelings that blacks, Mexicans, women, Asians and everyone else in America think Trump is trash?

BTW, ya boy kinda admitted the NFL protest. Wasn't about the flag.

Per dumb Donald

I am gonna ask all of those people to recommend to me, because that’s what they’re protesting, people that they think were unfairly treated by the justice system, and I understand that. And I’m gonna ask them to recommend to me, people that were unfairly treated, friends of theirs or people that they know about, and I’m gonna take a look at those applications. And if I find—and my committee finds—that they were unfairly treated, then we will pardon them or at least let them out

6 hours ago, LumRaiderFan said:

You've been asked to give examples of Trump's racist behavior and wouldn't do it.

Make a list, it shouldn't be that hard since there are so many examples.

This is a forum for debate, so make your argument rather than deeming yourself the judge of who is and isn't honest on here.

I owe you nothing. But ill throw you a bone or two. Just go re read his presidential campaign announcement.  Or his response to Charlottesville. Or his comments about sh.  It hole countries. 

 I doubt you find those speeches racist because you think just like him. Which means you think that I just called racist without saying it.

Hit dogs yelp. 

Ive made the point I wanted to make. The POS in the oval office is racist trash even though he granted a black woman clemency. You trolls can have this trash thread.  

49 minutes ago, LumRaiderFan said:

You've been asked to give examples of Trump's racist behavior and wouldn't do it.

Make a list, it shouldn't be that hard since there are so many examples.

This is a forum for debate, so make your argument rather than deeming yourself the judge of who is and isn't honest on here.

I owe you nothing. But ill throw you a bone or two. Just go re read his presidential campaign announcement.  Or his response to Charlottesville. Or his comments about sh.  It hole countries. 

 I doubt you find those speeches racist because you think just like him. Which means you think that I just called racist without saying it.

Hit dogs yelp. 

Ive made the point I wanted to make. The POS in the oval office is racist trash even though he granted a black woman clemency. You trolls can have this trash thread.  

45 minutes ago, LumRaiderFan said:

Is this really your response to Nash's explanation of the state of the economy?

You didn't read my whole comment. 

6 hours ago, Law Man said:

Divide  and stir up hate. Politics is about change. I joined this board because I witnessed a community come together and open up to a stranger who was a long way from home.

 

 

The whole point of this thread was race baiting.  Anyone secure with him or herself wouldnt start a thread like this.

I knew it was bait but I was feeling froggy so I jumped in.

Admitting the president is racist doesn't necessarily mean you're a racist, even if you voted for him. Hillary ran a sorry campaign. But when you post threads like this, you're just trying to justify your own racist tendencies.

The sports threads are much more fun.  Until the people on the politic threads start being honest with themselves ill just call them out for what it is.

8 hours ago, stevenash said:

The Widest barometer reflecting the health of the economy is GDP..Mr. Obama is the ONLY president since world war 11 who DID NOT have a single year where the economy grew at 3% or better.  From 2014 to 2016, the GDP, while positive, was declining progressively from the prior year.  The tax cuts not only raised the take home pay of nearly every employed American, it also brought about hundreds of companies giving their employees $1000 year end bonuses.  Sorry, sir but that "aint trash"  As for "screwing the working man":, all he has done is make sure there are more working men than there were when he took office.  For the first time in a very long time, there are more jobs available than people unemployed.  That too, "aint trash"   Lets debate this further.  I am very conversant with the inner workings of the economy and would like to have more exchanges with you about it.

You're being intellectually dishonest.  Look at the economy Obama inherited and the one he left.  Trump is just riding the wave. And that isn't the premise of this POS thread. Trump is still a racist despite doing something that positively affected a black woman.  

Trump is a POS racist. Go ask your "black" friends since you don't believe me.

4 hours ago, stevenash said:

So your time is too valuable?  Or do you simply not have what I asked you for?  Its real easy to make claims( like Obama is a Muslim or is not a legitimate U.S. citizen) but not nearly as easy to document them.  If I am understanding you correctly, you feel that blacks, during the Obama term, were better off from an employment standpoint than they are now?  You feel that the fact that the blacks, Hispanics, other minorities as well as Caucasians taking home more money due to reduced taxes and fewer regulations is somehow attributable to Obama rather than Trump.  If you honestly believe all of this, please tell me how the release of 3 prisoners in N. Korea and the 1 in Venezuela is attributable to Mr. Obama-  Yes, please tell me IF you have any time left out of your "precious time".  And, by the way, thank you for honoring Mr.  Obamas request that all citizens practice civility and tolerance. I am sure that declaring Mr. Trump "a racist piece of trash" certainly meets those requirements.

The whole premise of this thread is trash.  One good deed does not mean Trump isnt a racist POS. His words and deeds speak for him. He's trash and the people who blindly support him are trash too.

The so called tax cut ain't shite. When you fill out your 1040 next year you'll see he screwed the working man.  The only people who got a tax cut were the top 1 percent the same people who have recieved 99 percent of this country's economic growth since "saint" Reagan took office. 

As for unemployment, I thought those numbers were lies when Obama was president but now I'm supposed to believe them cause dumb Donald is in office? 

Yeah I believe the numbers. They were trending down well before he got in office.  They need to go lower. He's had little to nothing to do with it, per respected economists. 

In summary, the premise of this thread is trash. Yall dont believe what dumb donald says is racist cause y'all and/or y'all family say the same foul stuff in private company and on anonymous message boards.  And you don't get a cookie for doing the right thing. You need to raise your expectations.

27 minutes ago, stevenash said:

Do tell.   Please provide a couple of instances with concrete examples rather than simply repeating the mantra drummed into you by the media.

Black unemployment at lowest rate since records have been kept.  I guess that and the above are the "broke clock" examples, right?

I've stated Trump's racism examples numerous times on this site.  I've pointes out his words but it's not good enough for anyone who "thinks" like you. I won't do it again. Its a waste of my precious time.

As for the unemployment, that started under Obama. And its still twice as high as white unemployment. He gets no credit from me.

He's trash and that's it. FDT. 

A broke clock is right twice a day.  Trump is still a racist piece of trash.

3 hours ago, oldschool2 said:

This ^^ represents why I hate youth sports so much... because NOTHING AT ALL changes between little league and high school.  Like the fact that you go from playing kids the same age to playing a high school with 4 different grade levels to choose from.  or like reaching physical maturity at different times.. like transfers.. like the changing of classifications or competition.  like kids losing interest.. 

You can just as easily be blamed for instilling terrible habits that are irreversible.  Literally.. shaking my head.

3 hours ago, oldschool2 said:

This ^^ represents why I hate youth sports so much... because NOTHING AT ALL changes between little league and high school.  Like the fact that you go from playing kids the same age to playing a high school with 4 different grade levels to choose from.  or like reaching physical maturity at different times.. like transfers.. like the changing of classifications or competition.  like kids losing interest.. 

You can just as easily be blamed for instilling terrible habits that are irreversible.  Literally.. shaking my head.

There's no high school sports without youth sports. Show me a school with a strong program and you can bet they have a strong youth program.

That's because of parents who spent countless hours of their free time teaching the kids in their community how to play the game so you can one day go sit in the stands on Friday night and cheer.

We won. The coaches we played. We sent our sons to camps to get better.

As for the different grades and the changes that occur - duh, kids mature at different rates. I'm familiar with who Livingston plays this fall. With good coaching they're going to be competitive and win some games. It's gonna be better.

I have realistic expectations. A decent coach would have won 3-4 games last year and been competitive in the rest with the kids they had and the schedule they played. They weren't competitive at all. They were undisciplined. And that's unacceptable. And that's on the coaching staff.

We gave them kids that had good habits and were disciplined. We gave them kids that won and knew how to win.

5 minutes ago, 2wedge said:

OOOOOO, the little league HOF coach chimes in to talk down on the "pros".

What was occurring in Livingston was hardly professional. In a former life I was paid to observe and report on children's games played at the highest levels. NFL NBA MLB. BCS title games. So I have a good idea of what good coaching looks like.

 I'm glad the change was made. I look forward to fall.

Losing good coaches sucks but can't knock someone for improving himself.

Congrats on your kid's graduation.

Life is politics. Sounds like someone or somebody's buddy didn't get the job they thought they deserved. Better luck next time? Maybe?

You can always run for the school board.  It doest take many votes cause no one votes. At the very least go vote for someone who fits your style.

I'm gonna see my self out now. The only sour grapes I like are in cognac and wine bottles.

On 5/17/2018 at 11:19 AM, PlayActionPass said:

I will be more than happy to.

And, I won't say which Coach on the Livingston staff said it, but had one tell me that we (Livingston) aren't good enough to beat Huntington. I will let that simmer until September.

I wouldn't take the word of a coach of a failed coaching staff.

Our kids beat the other kids when we coached them. When we handed them to the so called pros, suddenly they can't play. I don't buy it.

I think coaching malpractice has ended in Livingston. It will be interesting to see who else applied for the job.   That will be released next week.

It's so sad to see what has happened to the softball program. Just a few years ago it was an up and coming team that should have won a national tournament title.

If they violated the players rights by not allowing her to eat according to her religion, that's wrong and the head coach should have tried to make amends rsther than kick her off the team. The administration seems to have handled this poorly and has doubled down since lawyers have got involved.

I know it doesn't attract tons of fan, but it's an embarrassment and probably makes it harder to hire a decent coach.  And it doesn't inspire confidence in would be recruits to see how coaches and admins handled one of their players.

I wish the team the best in sorting this out.

10 hours ago, LC-M said:

I think the first year will be building year and it will be competitive game. I think they could go 4-6 which is a lot better then last year

Go look at the schedule.  They should be at or above 500 this year.

6 hours ago, LC-M said:

I watched the interview. Sounds like a good guy and probably the best hire this late in the season.  I wish Livingston the best of luck except against my Bears. 

Only three more years of defending Livingston and I can go back down bear path on a full time basis. 

I think the lions are going to surprise outside observers. 

5 hours ago, PlayActionPass said:

It is a POLITICAL decision, made by a School Board that can't get out of their own way. 

I'm sure Vanover is a great coach, I've been told he is.

But, is he going to establish something that can last? Can he relate to the kids? 

The board asked parents what they wanted and experience and success were high on the list. 

I dont like that they didn't buy out the former coach after the season ended but on paper this hire looks good. He's had success at various levels. The fact he took a new high school and made the playoffs at the highest level shows he can build a program.

I think the kids will turn out. They're excited to play schools their size and smaller. And they're ready to start winning.

11 hours ago, Extra Base Eagle said:

Don't sleep on 21-5a Bear

 

11 hours ago, Extra Base Eagle said:

Don't sleep on 21-5a Bear

 

I think 21-5a will make it interesting. What sad is next year very good teams will be stuck at home because its going to be one of the toughest districts in state.

Glad to be moving down. But sad we never got to compete in 21 5a. Your schools are much closer than Beaumont.

Good luck.

22-5a takes 3 of the four series. If Lumberton can get good pitching and some timely offense it's a sweep

1 hour ago, CardinalBacker said:

I knew Greg had built it, but I was unaware that it had been sold to the school. 

It’s amazing how little support the Lions have there at home. There’s talent there... you have Corrigan as their neighbor to the North, Coldspring to their West. The community just doesn’t put any emphasis on supporting their programs, most specifically the football program. 

 

The community supports the team. It's always a full house.  And never an empty seat. They tailgate before the games. So unless you're definion of support is different than mine they are supported.

Now if we're talking about success in boys sports that's been non existent for the last few years.  That's gotta change. I wish they made the move in November but here we are having to fight it out with Bc for whatever left  of football coaches. Sorry y'all lost your coach. He seemed to be a guy that could be there for the long haul.

2 hours ago, CardinalBacker said:

If I’m not mistaken, the baseball complex in Livingston is privately owned. 

Nope. School owns it. 

20 minutes ago, The Icon said:

I don't think anyone on here is going to contest against new schools or academic facilities. However, I'd be quicker to support a new football field/stadium before a soccer one. Also, while you're building all new facilities, why not include an upgrade to the football field? It doesn't have to what Allen, Katy, Clear Creek or Cy-Fair has. But, you could upgrade the quality of the stands, pressbox, track and field for a reasonable price (in terms of upgrades or new construction are concerned).

 

Schools like Shelbyville, Center, San Augustine, Cathage, Beckville...etc all have simple, nice stadiums with upgrades. Why not Livingston?

Old rv people will shoot it down.  Trust me it's been tried.  They vote to fix the schools but won't raise taxes for sports. Hence the run around on building new facility out of petty cash.

1 hour ago, LC-M said:

Well I’m assuming you havnt been to LCM in awhile our high school has been totally redone they took out the quad lol, jr high, elementary have all been redone. Our supertendant 56 millon dollar budget was probably closer to 100 millon. Now our football, baseball and softball field  are the same. Our new gym is nice. 

I've been by. It looks great! I'm so proud for LCM. May it stand another 40 years. But the Grove isn't better than our gym. I say this as an LCM alum. Geaux Bears.

52 minutes ago, PlayActionPass said:

Is the new track/soccer complex going to have turf?

Glad you are happy with what is going on in Livingston, because accepting below average is why they are in the position they are in right now.

 

1 hour ago, LC-M said:

Well I’m assuming you havnt been to LCM in awhile our high school has been totally redone they took out the quad lol, jr high, elementary have all been redone. Our supertendant 56 millon dollar budget was probably closer to 100 millon. Now our football, baseball and softball field  are the same. Our new gym is nice. 

Ive been by. Its nice. But the Grove isn't better than our gym. I'm glad they rebuilt LCM. And I'm proud of the job that was done. May it last another 40 years.  Geaux Bears.

Am I happy with the athletic department and the success it's had. It could be better. The girls are highly successful and the boys will be better. As for the turf; ain't nothing better than grass if you can grow it.

At the end of the day if my tax dollars have to go-to something I'd rather it go to the school books and teacher instead of Athletics..

2 hours ago, PlayActionPass said:

It's just sad that the town has so little respect for football. The NEW high school is amazing, but the original b

 

nd package had a stadium/natatorium/baseball/softball complex included, but it got voted down. The town of Livingston has very little respect for athletics and football in particular. Good luck to the Lions, hope they hire the right guy this time. Because Broussard was a complete and total failure.

1 hour ago, CAL2TEX said:

um...  please do tell.

The schools in the golden triangle are falling apart.  Build new schools. 

And our gym is top notch. Honestly none of kids are going pro so I'd rather they have a great school to attend.