Reagan

Leave it to me, yes. 7 years you'll know if you have a championship coach or not. Surratt, Buchanan, and Briles all did it in seven years at the school they were at. If people were honest here, everyone knew the former PNG coach, and former Vidor wasn't going to win any championships after 7 years. And we were right. But, that's left up to the individual school districts if they want to waste 24 years.

No, PNG gives them 12 years!

There's a lot of speculation here. So, with that being said, could a bad coach play in the big dance with 35 seniors. But, I don't think that's the real point here. How many were starters and how many starters are returning should be the salient question. Same success next year? Who knows. But if he's the coach we think he is then, yes, success will continue. But the fact still remains, he did in 1 year what the previous coach couldn't do in 12.

Have you ever seen less talented football teams win?

Let's see: There was anxiety, foaming at the mouth and down right hyperventilating when the PNG coach left. The chant was: how could they get rid of this excellent coach?! Then, all of a sudden -- it got quite. Even to the point of saying -- Faircloth who? Lumberton was wallowing around in mediocrity until this past year. WOS has for many, many years been known for their football. But what happened this year? On the first two, did the athletes just start showing up when these new coaches did? How about at WOS, did the WOS-type athletes just stop showing up when the new coach did? NO!! It's just more examples what the right, or wrong, coach can do. What does this have to do with Vidor: It's a template of what to do and what not to do. But -- are they paying attention?!

I will some-what agree. Any sport, except football, you have to have the talent. Basketball, track, baseball golf, on that, I'll agree.

LCM and Lumberton just finish their 2nd year. But, in 24 years the Vidor faithful has not experienced the excitement that PNG just experienced. But the Vidor coach was a good man.

I did hear that Lake's trial was suppose to be in March. But -- when the Judge looked at the evidence he immediately fast tracked the trial to Feburary 1. This had NOTHING to do with Lake or her lawyers. This was purely the Judge!

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This ^^^^

I think you may be confusing performance with potential ability. Look, there's no doubt that Lumberton kid performed better than Vidor's. By, my point, is is that Vidor ha the same potential ability that the kids at Lumberton is showing. Let me ask you this: Do you honestly think that the genetics of the kids in Lumberton are better than that of the kids in Vidor? You brought up the past 12 years of the Vidor coach. So, let's bring up the prior 12 years before Lumberton's coach got there. Lumberton: 37-78. Needless to say not a stellar record. But what turned it around this time? Coaching!! Hopefully Vidor will pay attention to what has happened to Lumberton, PNG, and on the other side of the coin, WOS! But, that's if they really care. And if they don't, then all bets are off.

It looks like your accurate portrayal of the present philosophy of Vidor football on this forum has got a quite of few people here confused!

Overall: 24 years: 117-124

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Very true!

I actually believe you actually believe this. Why? Because you and the other libs here aren't going to get this type of story on CNN (Commie News Network).

It really is amazing how easy it is for these commie-libs to lie. Everyone can see there is a two tier justice system. The was JoeBama's illegal documents are being handled is the same way they handled Hillarious Clintonista's illegal server and her destroying 33,000 documents. But -- neither of their home's were raided! [Hidden Content]

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If Lumberton can do it, I don't see why Vidor couldn't do it. Again, same type of athletes. But, the Slot-T and Wing-T are good offenses. As always, just need the right coach to coach it.

I'm a little disappointed in that all we can come up with so far is that in the past 47 years Groves is the answer for why there is a difference in the two football cities! Would like to hear other opinions!

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I just heard the JoeBama also stole classified documents while he was a Senator. Ted Cruz explained how Senators examine documents that are classified. It's very strict. He said he doesn't know how JoeBama was able to steal them!