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I think they are going to manage it like a scrimmage.  At least I hope.  That is a weird setup.  The second half team comes in fresh and educated on what is working and what isn't.  I mean...its 8th grade so lets not overanalyze.  I am glad they found somebody to play.  
 
 

Well.....Crosby has a Defensive End with 2 felonies, an ex-wife, a tattoo on one arm that says "Kill'em All" and on the other arm it says "Mama's Boy".  You probably didn't see him last year because he had to quit the team to take a job as the head toothbrusher at the Anahuac Alligator Farm.  He's a good dad and had to make those child support payments.

He worked all summer bending manhole covers at his uncle's machine shop in Tarkington.  He got fired for picking fights with rottweilers in the shop.  He said he was going to open his own septic service company after football season.  It just depends on his schedule this spring.  He plays soccer too.

Let it be written, let it be done.
Say goodnight to this thread. I am turning the lights out.
Time for Jasper folks to focus on Bryan Rudder.
Time for Silsbee folks to focus on West Orange-Stark.

That play wasn't football.  That wasn't "physical" play.  That is a kid trying to hurt a defenseless person.  Watch it again. He takes his time and waits until the QB has no clue and is completely unprepared.  Then he unloads on him.  This is in complete opposition of any kind of virtue or value that athletic competition provides.  
These are kids and kids do dumb stuff sometimes.  I understand the context.  This was an athletic competition between two teams of kids.   As much as the coaches and fans talk about these games being a "battle" or a "war", they aren't.  That is your baby out there.  My baby.  Our babies.  
My son is a physical DE.  He plays hard and has been flagged for late hits and a hit out-of-bounds.  Always trying to play hard football but sometimes he loses focus.  Hence the penalties.  I have never doubted he is trying to play football.  This hit isn't football.
But keep up that "head on a swivel" attitude.  Keep rationalizing cowardly behavior.  When football is pulled from the parks and schools because it is too dangerous and encourages unsavory behavior, it won't be the kids fault.  It will be ours.   

Carthage has played Silsbee 4 out of the last 5 years in the playoffs. Carthage has won every meeting. A couple of them in blowouts. TBH I never saw anything out of the ordinary from Silsbee. A little chippyness or maybe a couple late hits or extracurricular activity after the play. But nothing malicious. And that was against a team that has pretty much stopped every deep playoff run Silsbee has had. I don't live in the area, but I don't consider Silsbee FB program to be dirty. Now there has been some incidents that make you wonder what's going on with the fights and then this. But every program has things that happen that are embarrassing. Even Carthage. There has been a couple times where if there was video, people would've been screaming Carthage is a dirty program. It happens to the best of them. These are just kids. And kids make mistakes.

I have been of the opinion also that this is not the medium to judge or accuse the kid.  His actions are on video to see and to pretend it didn't happen does nobody any favors.  I don't think I have seen anybody post anything threatening or disparaging to that young man personally.  There is an abundance of folks taking the high road here.  I don't know his name, I don't want to know his name.  God bless and good luck to the young man.  I can tell you care about this young man and don't want to see him crucified in this public medium.  I don't think that is happening.
However, the actions the school employees (coaches), administration, and the UIL take in regards to this incident is of interest to me and apparently many others.  Many on this board have relationships with these schools in many different ways.  This situation could have happened at any school (yes, your school too).  
Is there a pattern of behavior or communication by the coaches encouraging this behavior?  
Would a fifth official on the field made an impact on the behavior of the athletes during the game?
What action, if any, will the school system take in this situation?
I think these are valid questions to discuss and this is the appropriate forum for this discussion.  We are not contaminating any UIL or school district decisions by having a civil discussion about a real event.  

That play wasn't football.  That wasn't "physical" play.  That is a kid trying to hurt a defenseless person.  Watch it again. He takes his time and waits until the QB has no clue and is completely unprepared.  Then he unloads on him.  This is in complete opposition of any kind of virtue or value that athletic competition provides.  
These are kids and kids do dumb stuff sometimes.  I understand the context.  This was an athletic competition between two teams of kids.   As much as the coaches and fans talk about these games being a "battle" or a "war", they aren't.  That is your baby out there.  My baby.  Our babies.  
My son is a physical DE.  He plays hard and has been flagged for late hits and a hit out-of-bounds.  Always trying to play hard football but sometimes he loses focus.  Hence the penalties.  I have never doubted he is trying to play football.  This hit isn't football.
But keep up that "head on a swivel" attitude.  Keep rationalizing cowardly behavior.  When football is pulled from the parks and schools because it is too dangerous and encourages unsavory behavior, it won't be the kids fault.  It will be ours.   

I have been of the opinion also that this is not the medium to judge or accuse the kid.  His actions are on video to see and to pretend it didn't happen does nobody any favors.  I don't think I have seen anybody post anything threatening or disparaging to that young man personally.  There is an abundance of folks taking the high road here.  I don't know his name, I don't want to know his name.  God bless and good luck to the young man.  I can tell you care about this young man and don't want to see him crucified in this public medium.  I don't think that is happening.
However, the actions the school employees (coaches), administration, and the UIL take in regards to this incident is of interest to me and apparently many others.  Many on this board have relationships with these schools in many different ways.  This situation could have happened at any school (yes, your school too).  
Is there a pattern of behavior or communication by the coaches encouraging this behavior?  
Would a fifth official on the field made an impact on the behavior of the athletes during the game?
What action, if any, will the school system take in this situation?
I think these are valid questions to discuss and this is the appropriate forum for this discussion.  We are not contaminating any UIL or school district decisions by having a civil discussion about a real event.  

I can deal with that, I am not saying it was not intentional but again my point is simple "no one knows what was in the kids head and what his intentions were" people need to stop the public debate about this young man and let his coach access the situation and handle it; it is that simple.

The video doesn't make accusations.  This is a recorded witness of a horrible act by one kid.  His intentions are obvious and outside the realm of football at any level.  This is "Controlled Warfare" just as much as the combat in the middle east can be called "Uncontrolled Football".   I understand the metaphor but applying it in this context to rationalize the behavior of kids pushes it too far.
I will agree with you on maligning this kid.  He is a minor.  I hope I am forgiven for all the horrible things I did as a dumb teenager.  The player and the team deserve absolutely ZERO retaliation.  A good team will surround this young man, let him know that his behavior was out of line, and support him in whatever way they can.  

That play wasn't football.  That wasn't "physical" play.  That is a kid trying to hurt a defenseless person.  Watch it again. He takes his time and waits until the QB has no clue and is completely unprepared.  Then he unloads on him.  This is in complete opposition of any kind of virtue or value that athletic competition provides.  
These are kids and kids do dumb stuff sometimes.  I understand the context.  This was an athletic competition between two teams of kids.   As much as the coaches and fans talk about these games being a "battle" or a "war", they aren't.  That is your baby out there.  My baby.  Our babies.  
My son is a physical DE.  He plays hard and has been flagged for late hits and a hit out-of-bounds.  Always trying to play hard football but sometimes he loses focus.  Hence the penalties.  I have never doubted he is trying to play football.  This hit isn't football.
But keep up that "head on a swivel" attitude.  Keep rationalizing cowardly behavior.  When football is pulled from the parks and schools because it is too dangerous and encourages unsavory behavior, it won't be the kids fault.  It will be ours.   

That play wasn't football.  That wasn't "physical" play.  That is a kid trying to hurt a defenseless person.  Watch it again. He takes his time and waits until the QB has no clue and is completely unprepared.  Then he unloads on him.  This is in complete opposition of any kind of virtue or value that athletic competition provides.  
These are kids and kids do dumb stuff sometimes.  I understand the context.  This was an athletic competition between two teams of kids.   As much as the coaches and fans talk about these games being a "battle" or a "war", they aren't.  That is your baby out there.  My baby.  Our babies.  
My son is a physical DE.  He plays hard and has been flagged for late hits and a hit out-of-bounds.  Always trying to play hard football but sometimes he loses focus.  Hence the penalties.  I have never doubted he is trying to play football.  This hit isn't football.
But keep up that "head on a swivel" attitude.  Keep rationalizing cowardly behavior.  When football is pulled from the parks and schools because it is too dangerous and encourages unsavory behavior, it won't be the kids fault.  It will be ours.   

Buzz the reason why you didn't see a RB is because they were both on the sidelines in plain clothes We did with what we had and didn't do to shabby. I knew all of those dropped balls would come back to haunt us and it did. We didn't have the RB's for Friendswood either, but FW didn't have Williams or a versatile QB like Crosby.

Great game.  Barbers Hill made less mistakes and had great QB play the first half. Burned the crosby secondary a lot through 3 quarters.  Were attacking, effectively, the same corner (23) then they worked on 17.  In the 4th quarter, 17 had some beautiful passes defenses. They tried to strike agains 23 and he had a couple great plays. 
Did I hear BH had both RB's out?  I never saw a RB carry for BH.  At all. Didn't notice until now. 
The penalties agains Crosby were deserved. There was some holding and blocking in the back. Some of them blatant. 
4th quarter - Crosby is starting to exploit BH focus on 21. Howard has some decent runs.  Patterson out muscles a contested ball in the end zone for a TD.  Fatigue hits both teams but BH loses speed faster. Defense had some really good stands and that final score was a dagger. 
This game was led by BH for quite a bit.  Both teams brought it. I think BH peaked early and Crosby peaked a little later. Made for a fun game. 

Uh. Not this game. I know BH didn't have any RB but they can't put a WR in jet motion?
i could set my watch to that first down power right by the QB.  There was some go routes that smoked Crosby secondary early, why nothing underneath once the secondary was in soft prevent?  Was the QB making that call?  That's even worse. 
 
There was a great comeback play from BH15 that was a pure timing, thing of beauty. Ball was out before WR had turned around. Great play. Not run enough.  Coaching?  (We are just fans after all).
BH conditioned this secondary for the deep ball  early.  It dried up in the second half.  There was a beautiful fake power run where 5 pulled up and threw deep.  Suckered the corner hard for a TD.  By the 4th quarter the defense could afford to allow the 3-4 yard QB runs and cap the deep threat  I mean, points are what matters and they were turning these plays into points early but it set a tendency.  Rio was able to adjust for the 2nd half.  It seemed, defensively, BH  didn't adjust much.  Coaching?
I didn't see a whole lot of innovation or questionable decisions by either staff but no way Rio got out-coached. 

Great game.  Barbers Hill made less mistakes and had great QB play the first half. Burned the crosby secondary a lot through 3 quarters.  Were attacking, effectively, the same corner (23) then they worked on 17.  In the 4th quarter, 17 had some beautiful passes defenses. They tried to strike agains 23 and he had a couple great plays. 
Did I hear BH had both RB's out?  I never saw a RB carry for BH.  At all. Didn't notice until now. 
The penalties agains Crosby were deserved. There was some holding and blocking in the back. Some of them blatant. 
4th quarter - Crosby is starting to exploit BH focus on 21. Howard has some decent runs.  Patterson out muscles a contested ball in the end zone for a TD.  Fatigue hits both teams but BH loses speed faster. Defense had some really good stands and that final score was a dagger. 
This game was led by BH for quite a bit.  Both teams brought it. I think BH peaked early and Crosby peaked a little later. Made for a fun game. 

If we assume your observations are correct, and things don't drastically change, then this should favor Crosby. 
Crosby conditioning was excellent on defense.  Jasper was a physical offense on the field a ton.  Hopefully the offense has the same level.  They weren't on the field for long stretches. Crosby will exploit a mediocre run defense.  #21 will get his.  The backup is an OK senior.  The have a corner that was a RB last year that may get involved.  Thought I saw him in the backfield a little last week. Crosby QB did not play run first.  He was looking to throw.  (some comments here didn't believe he would) This should be an upgrade in talent to the FW QB. Crosby secondary is not dominant.  Jasper is not about the pass.  If I had complete game film, that is something I would want to go back and look at.  I could be wrong. Looking forward to watching the 8th grade scrimmage (it is a man with no real life that will travel to watch an 8th grade scrimmage) tonight.  

If we assume your observations are correct, and things don't drastically change, then this should favor Crosby. 
Crosby conditioning was excellent on defense.  Jasper was a physical offense on the field a ton.  Hopefully the offense has the same level.  They weren't on the field for long stretches. Crosby will exploit a mediocre run defense.  #21 will get his.  The backup is an OK senior.  The have a corner that was a RB last year that may get involved.  Thought I saw him in the backfield a little last week. Crosby QB did not play run first.  He was looking to throw.  (some comments here didn't believe he would) This should be an upgrade in talent to the FW QB. Crosby secondary is not dominant.  Jasper is not about the pass.  If I had complete game film, that is something I would want to go back and look at.  I could be wrong. Looking forward to watching the 8th grade scrimmage (it is a man with no real life that will travel to watch an 8th grade scrimmage) tonight.  

I think there are DIV 1 recruits inside of every district.  They are there.  It takes the right culture to seek, equip, and support them.  That comes from coaching.  There will always be kids that have talent and would stand out no matter where they are.  The right culture can coach up kids that would usually fade into the roster.  
Kids are kids.  Nobody is feeding kids anything different or have some kind of genetic booster in the water.  It is cultures that enforce the correct habits and behaviors that help these kids shine.  
BH has had a culture shift that has trickled down to the JH level.  I saw BH coaches actually coaching hard for JH track meets this spring.  A marked increase over some recent years.  I see far too many JH coaches coasting and that stinks.  The kids can tell when the coach is just going through the motions.  
Critical rule of leadership -  Teams will copy the leaders behavior before the leaders strategy.  

I agree with you. Only difference is I believe winning a couple rounds in the playoffs is more than in their reach this year. I consider getting to the 3rd round a nice playoff run. I think in the next 2 or 3 years they will be looking at State Championship runs. 

This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up I'd suspect that on a Regional level, this gives you a fairly accurate indication of a teams potential.  As with all polls, a good conversation piece.

I made it to the game at 9 minutes to go in the first quarter.  Score was 13-0.  I thought “That was quick” and got to my seat.  I am a Crosby parent with 2 kids in the school system with one in athletics.  I am a little biased but this is what I saw –

·       Jasper has some undersized kids that play a lot bigger.  The JV/Freshman teams didn’t seem to have that issue.  They looked big and played that way. 

·       Crosby throttled back in the first half, again.  I am just a dude in the stands.  But I really think Crosby scores fast in the first half and pulls back.  Not just intensity from the kids.  Playcalling seems to drop off. 

·       One of the starting interior LB for Crosby is a soph.  One of the nicest kids from a great family.  He had 4 solo tackles and 1 sack. 

·       Defense looks young.  Except…

o   2 minutes to go in the 2nd half and Jasper has a long run to the Crosby 1 yard line.  Jasper had a sideline penalty on the run.  Backed them up 10 yards.  Defensive line for Crosby just brutalized them at the point of attack on 1st and 2nd down.  3rd and 4th down were both sacks. 

·       Jasper recovered an onside kick (perfectly executed) to start the second half.  Promptly scores.

·       (Gulp)

·       Jasper recovered another onside kick.  I am not a mean guy but this kinda stuff is why I would expect a team to be ruthless at least for the first half.  Jasper has momentum and is knocking on the door to taking the lead in this game. 

Ball game is back and forth at this point but Jasper is starting to look winded and Crosby is playing very vanilla. 

Jasper offense is built for ball control and consistent scores but only has one speed.  There is no up-tempo.  They are down by 7 for most of the second half and even have the ball with a minute to go.  They never changed tempo.   

Jasper never stopped fighting.  Crosby left a lot on the table here.  Not including the 2 TD’s called back for holding. 

Tough game next week for Crosby.

I made it to the game at 9 minutes to go in the first quarter.  Score was 13-0.  I thought “That was quick” and got to my seat.  I am a Crosby parent with 2 kids in the school system with one in athletics.  I am a little biased but this is what I saw –

·       Jasper has some undersized kids that play a lot bigger.  The JV/Freshman teams didn’t seem to have that issue.  They looked big and played that way. 

·       Crosby throttled back in the first half, again.  I am just a dude in the stands.  But I really think Crosby scores fast in the first half and pulls back.  Not just intensity from the kids.  Playcalling seems to drop off. 

·       One of the starting interior LB for Crosby is a soph.  One of the nicest kids from a great family.  He had 4 solo tackles and 1 sack. 

·       Defense looks young.  Except…

o   2 minutes to go in the 2nd half and Jasper has a long run to the Crosby 1 yard line.  Jasper had a sideline penalty on the run.  Backed them up 10 yards.  Defensive line for Crosby just brutalized them at the point of attack on 1st and 2nd down.  3rd and 4th down were both sacks. 

·       Jasper recovered an onside kick (perfectly executed) to start the second half.  Promptly scores.

·       (Gulp)

·       Jasper recovered another onside kick.  I am not a mean guy but this kinda stuff is why I would expect a team to be ruthless at least for the first half.  Jasper has momentum and is knocking on the door to taking the lead in this game. 

Ball game is back and forth at this point but Jasper is starting to look winded and Crosby is playing very vanilla. 

Jasper offense is built for ball control and consistent scores but only has one speed.  There is no up-tempo.  They are down by 7 for most of the second half and even have the ball with a minute to go.  They never changed tempo.   

Jasper never stopped fighting.  Crosby left a lot on the table here.  Not including the 2 TD’s called back for holding. 

Tough game next week for Crosby.

I made it to the game at 9 minutes to go in the first quarter.  Score was 13-0.  I thought “That was quick” and got to my seat.  I am a Crosby parent with 2 kids in the school system with one in athletics.  I am a little biased but this is what I saw –

·       Jasper has some undersized kids that play a lot bigger.  The JV/Freshman teams didn’t seem to have that issue.  They looked big and played that way. 

·       Crosby throttled back in the first half, again.  I am just a dude in the stands.  But I really think Crosby scores fast in the first half and pulls back.  Not just intensity from the kids.  Playcalling seems to drop off. 

·       One of the starting interior LB for Crosby is a soph.  One of the nicest kids from a great family.  He had 4 solo tackles and 1 sack. 

·       Defense looks young.  Except…

o   2 minutes to go in the 2nd half and Jasper has a long run to the Crosby 1 yard line.  Jasper had a sideline penalty on the run.  Backed them up 10 yards.  Defensive line for Crosby just brutalized them at the point of attack on 1st and 2nd down.  3rd and 4th down were both sacks. 

·       Jasper recovered an onside kick (perfectly executed) to start the second half.  Promptly scores.

·       (Gulp)

·       Jasper recovered another onside kick.  I am not a mean guy but this kinda stuff is why I would expect a team to be ruthless at least for the first half.  Jasper has momentum and is knocking on the door to taking the lead in this game. 

Ball game is back and forth at this point but Jasper is starting to look winded and Crosby is playing very vanilla. 

Jasper offense is built for ball control and consistent scores but only has one speed.  There is no up-tempo.  They are down by 7 for most of the second half and even have the ball with a minute to go.  They never changed tempo.   

Jasper never stopped fighting.  Crosby left a lot on the table here.  Not including the 2 TD’s called back for holding. 

Tough game next week for Crosby.

I'll take Crosby by 10. I'm more nervous about this year than in the past few but I believe Crosby wins this one. I won't be surprised if BH pulls out the victory I just believe this one will be a track meet and I believe that favors Crosby. Not trying to disrespect BH. This is close to a toss up type game. I thought Crosby was 20+ point favorites in the past few years. I'm excited to be heading to Mont Belvieu with some butterflies. That makes High School football fun to watch. Here's to a clean, exciting, injury-free rivalry game. 
Go Crosby!!!