Rez Ipsa

This outlines how incredibly stupid the grievance was. DISD didn’t file grievances about the Dallas-resident referees that reffed 4 of their 5 playoff games on the way to state. But suddenly they get a ref that isn’t from Dallas and it’s the end of the world. And, it makes clear what a lot of us already assumed, which was that South Oak Cliff had all the information needed provided to them in advance. This was just a pitiful attempt to gripe about losing.

PNG hasn’t lost to Jasper or Silsbee in years. DeSoto, Carthage, and Aledo are a different story. But I’m confident we would have beaten Carthage last year.

Three appearances and one victory in 48 years, after taking massive steps forward in training, condition, and coaching, and only following years of getting donkey stomped by better teams , and we finally become one of those better teams and now it’s “waltzing”?

Westerberg would be good, regardless, except we’ve already seen his ceiling at a school like Nederland. He improved BH, but that meant bringing them from first round exits to third round. Prieto would be much better, I think.

If we’re talking Westerberg, he only beat PNG twice (he was 2-2 all time against us). We beat BH in 2021 (Westerberg wasn’t there). BH won by 5 in 2019. The only decisive win was in 2020 (54-28).

I guarantee you wouldn’t see any more missed tackles

No - It‘s only a guess though, as to his mindset. But I agree with those who would prefer a defensive minded coach, regardless.

Faircloth could do great things at Nederland. My guess is he wants to put Mid County in his rear view mirror for good though

That seems late. Not for nothing, but there’s a certain former 2x state champion coach from West Orange who Nederland might consider.

Wait, so we lost an effective coach because of over-celebration? That sounds like something that should be more of a, “Hey, don’t do that anymore,” situation. Unless there’s more to it than is public.

Dang. That’s a loss for PnG

Is this confirmed?

So, this wasn’t “retirement.” It was “resignation.” I wonder if he’ll put his name in the hat for coaching jobs elsewhere?

Now, the question becomes, what process will NISD follow to select the new coach? Will they follow PNG’s and try to get a handpicked young guy with pedigree? Will they simply open it up statewide see who shows up? Or will they go in-house again?

Congratulations to him on a long and effective career, all at the same school. He was a part of the most consistent era of success against PNG, as well as several good playoff runs. Good luck to Coach Barrow in whatever he does after.

I’m not sure what you mean by “perception is reality.” Are you trying to be profound, or simply be rude in some way? It doesn’t land as hard as you seem to think it does.

The question still hinges on what the coaches knew. Because if the coaches had access to the full information and still agreed to the contest, under the rules you shared above, the coaches have agreed to and therefore waived the restrictions. I have a hard time thinking the coaches didn’t get the refs’ bios.

Does a ref have a duty to recuse himself? I haven’t seen the rules of personal conduct, if any exist, for refs. Or, is his job to present himself for work and it’s up to the coaches to properly review the material in front of them? If Coach Todd had done his homework, we wouldn’t be having this discussion. It’s Coach Todd’s job to strike refs, not the refs’ job to strike themselves. Todd had the same information available to him as any other coach. There’s been no allegation that the refs’ identity was concealed from one or both coaches. Coach Todd just didn’t do his job. In fact, based on his own description of the events, HE is the one who wanted the Houston chapter.

Todd didn’t use those words. In fact, he comes off quite reasonable in that interview, for the most part. The word “rigged” is in the title of the video. It’s not my reputation at stake, but if I was the Houston ref chapter, I’d consider hitting that YouTuber with a defamation suit.

Well, a few of us would.

SETX would travel with them

If North Shore would have us, I would love for PNG to play them. It would be a great way to see size and speed far superior to what we’ll face in the playoffs. But, I’m going to surprise myself and echo Coach Izzy - I don’t know that North Shore benefits that much from playing us, in terms of playoff prep. We have our own significant size on the line, and we’re going to be well-coached, so we can help them get ready for the regular season, but I don’t think we’d help them get ready for Duncanville. But, let’s pretend it can happen and schedule: PAM North Shore Summer Creek

Half the people questioning the culture of Nederland are from Nederland. Most of the PNG posts are in support of Nederland. It’s the weirdest thing - We want our rival to be better. That kind of makes us Nederland fans - And, as fans, we want to figure out what’s missing. Something is definitely missing. I don’t know exactly what it is, but I’d rather blame culture than blame the kids.

This thread was started by a Nederland guy

Missing Jeff Joseph. And Samples has 2 now.