Rez Ipsa

I agree that Region 4 seems a little weaker this year (it cycles), but when Liberty Hill has some size and speed (see 2020 and 2021) they’re one of the craziest things to watch in Texas. They won me over in their loss to Crosby in 2020.

Legacy is significantly larger (the Berry Center is, if my numbers are right, smaller than PNG’s stadium, while Legacy Stadium holds about 3,000 more than PNG at 16,000). So, if the concern is people being left out, we can benefit, as a whole, many more individuals at Legscy. Last year, Legacy Stadium didn’t start selling to PNG fans until PNG had sold out and, I presume, LH fans had already bought what they were going to buy. Even with PNG fans on their side, they all at least got to see the game. This week, a lot of PNG fans, and some LH fans won’t get to see the game, and that is certainly not through the choice of PNG fans. If we had our way, everyone from LH who wanted a ticket would have one, with room to spare. The LH coach thinks differently, apparently. I agree that holding the largest crowd on the home side makes sense (not for nothing, at Legacy both sides are equal). I sincerely hope you and your fellow LH fans have a blast on Friday, win or lose. It’s going to be a close game, certainly one to remember.

I would like a rule that says if two stadiums are proposed that are both available and within the same basic distance, the larger one must be selected. That would avoid a lot of this.

Not to belabor the point, but they wouldn’t have to do it at all if they had picked a bigger stadium. They didn’t care when it meant fewer PnG fans would be able to attend. When some LH fans might not get to go, suddenly they have to take measures. They could have just made it where far more fans could get tickets by picking a bigger venue, which is always better for football and more fun for both sides. And, it’s not just about the competition. PNG fans LIKE Liberty Hill. We want to see Liberty Hill play. Seeing Liberty Hill is one of the unique experiences in high school sports. I hope if we play next year we pick a bigger venue because this could be a special rivalry and a fun time between the fans, instead of fighting each other for spaces in a small stadium.

I kind of want to. Liberty Hill people seem cool.

I’m not suggesting any wrongdoing. I made no allegations of bad behavior, illegal or otherwise. I understand that there were bigger stadiums proposed and he absolutely refused to select a larger one. That’s a deliberate choice - He’s still an honorable man, a good citizen, etc, and I’ve said nothing to challenge that. But, he still chose to purposely exclude fans from the game, and that’s a deliberate and unnecessary action that defies the point and purpose of high school sports, and I disagree with it as petty gamesmanship. It’s not an attack on his character.

Exactly - I don’t feel bad. We have to send a message to nip this petty behavior in the bud. If I was rich, I’d buy up the entire allotment of LH tickets so none of them can come. Their coach is trying to purposely turn our fans away from the game, it’s only fair to do the same. Nothing against any of their fans. I like LH, a lot. But, next time, maybe they’d just agree to the bigger stadium instead of playing stupid games. Huntsville wasn’t afraid of our crowd. South Oak Cliff wasn’t and won’t be afraid of our crowd. LH shouldn’t be afraid of our crowd.

Not in the long run - But it highlights how bad the officiating was, not just on that drive, but perhaps throughout the game. The refs made a lot of calls against Huntsville too, and it made me think the refs were trying way too hard to make the game about them. They were inconsistent.

Pieper’s qb was hurt. It affected his accuracy all night. He could barely move, and I imagine planting his feet to throw was agony. For all Liberty Hill fans have tried to put an asterisk on our win last year because of injuries, there’s been no mention of Pieper’s injuries on offense when they cite their performance in that game as proof that their defense has improved from earlier in the season.

I don’t think it will be a blowout like Leander. LH isn’t going to be caught by surprise like last year. They know who we are now. And, I think they have made some adjustments on offense that make them a little more versatile. I wish PNG ran some of their run plays along with our passing game - We’d be that much harder to stop. So I think LH will move the ball on us, but I don’t think they’ll be able to do it as consistently as they need to. I’m thinking they score between 21-28 points. If we overperform we hold them to 7-14. The biggest problem will be that PNG will move the ball more consistently than them because I think we’ll have a fairly reliable 4-5 yards before contact on a lot of our run plays. It looks like LH has a pretty competent secondary, and they’re hunting interceptions. PNG won’t make the mistake Pieper made and throw it around a bunch. We’ll dare you to stop the run, but where we see opportunities, we have a capable passing game. Huntsville let us get them into single-man coverage with the safety up in the box once and it led to a 55-yard touchdown pass. It’s going to be a tough, good game. I predict something closer than last year, maybe in the 35/28-14/21 range. I’m having trouble gauging how good LH’s defense is, but I don’t see them as being as big or as physical as Huntsville’s defense. So, I don’t think LH will keep us from scoring at least 28, and I’d be comfortable betting we score at least 30. Can LH find 31 points? We’ll see. Good luck to ya’ll, in any case.

That sounds like a good one. I’d love to see Bellville in person.

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SOC and PNG are mirrors of each other, though SoC is more talented. I think there’s some coaching tree overlap, I just don’t know how much. Coach Joseph and the defensive coordinator at SOC coached together at Southlake Carroll, at least.

Where did you watch the game? (I’m assuming you watched online)

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Long posts are welcome. I’d especially like to hear what folks over there are thinking about this game

Wow

That’s wild

Anyone know if there’s a livestream for this one?

I think the UIL should adopt a rule that if two stadiums are proposed and both are available (and relatively equidistant) the one with the largest capacity must be selected. Easy peasy.

Sorry - I’m being too salty. Apologies

Or, I can do what you’re doing and express my opinion here. Don’t act like you’re “above” this. No one’s forcing you to be here.

There should be crying - It’s horse crap to arbitrarily deny fans the ability to watch the game. The whole point of high school football is community involvement. It’s not our fault our playoff opponents don’t have communities (including our friends from the surrounding SETX community who show up for each other) that care about their team enough to get on the road and watch. The gamesmanship of trying to find smaller stadiums to leave PNG fans out is pathetic and cowardly. If they can leave us out, how about just have no fans at all? If PNG has to turn 2,000-3,000 fans away, Liberty Hill should have to turn that many away as well , but everyone knows they would have no fans at all if they had to do that. The fact is you could hold this game on the moon and we’d still show up, and most other teams struggle to fill up their home stadiums. And, it’s going to backfire - Now Liberty Hill will be utterly surrounded by PNG in a more confined space. They’re going to have PTSD from hearing Cherokee.

Did anyone get pictures from last night at buccee’s?

Watching more of last night’s LH/Pieper game, I think Pieper would have beaten LH with a healthy qb. LH didn’t do anything special on defense, they were just up against a team with a guy throwing from a hurt leg - He could barely move, and it seems to have affected his accuracy.