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    Ned Nederlander got a reaction from Cheermom4 in Port Neches-Groves 41 Nederland 21/FINAL   
    Nederland played hard all season with all of the adversity and injuries that they dealt with.  I hate it for the players that they are not going to be in the playoffs this season.
    With that said, a certain unnamed head coach who failed to properly document a transfer and played an ineligible player against a team that we could have beat with our JV quarterback definitely deserved to be edged out of the playoffs by one point.  No, I do not think it was intentional cheating, but it was still careless and inexcusable given his experience and salary.  I really hope that he apologizes individually to all of the players (and especially the seniors) because they played well enough to be playing next week and they will be sitting at home because of a 'mistake' by their head coach.  If a teacher or administrator in NISD made such a public mistake, they would be run out of town in record time.
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    Ned Nederlander got a reaction from CAL2TEX in Port Neches-Groves 41 Nederland 21/FINAL   
    Nederland played hard all season with all of the adversity and injuries that they dealt with.  I hate it for the players that they are not going to be in the playoffs this season.
    With that said, a certain unnamed head coach who failed to properly document a transfer and played an ineligible player against a team that we could have beat with our JV quarterback definitely deserved to be edged out of the playoffs by one point.  No, I do not think it was intentional cheating, but it was still careless and inexcusable given his experience and salary.  I really hope that he apologizes individually to all of the players (and especially the seniors) because they played well enough to be playing next week and they will be sitting at home because of a 'mistake' by their head coach.  If a teacher or administrator in NISD made such a public mistake, they would be run out of town in record time.
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    Ned Nederlander got a reaction from prepballfan in Port Neches-Groves 41 Nederland 21/FINAL   
    Nederland played hard all season with all of the adversity and injuries that they dealt with.  I hate it for the players that they are not going to be in the playoffs this season.
    With that said, a certain unnamed head coach who failed to properly document a transfer and played an ineligible player against a team that we could have beat with our JV quarterback definitely deserved to be edged out of the playoffs by one point.  No, I do not think it was intentional cheating, but it was still careless and inexcusable given his experience and salary.  I really hope that he apologizes individually to all of the players (and especially the seniors) because they played well enough to be playing next week and they will be sitting at home because of a 'mistake' by their head coach.  If a teacher or administrator in NISD made such a public mistake, they would be run out of town in record time.
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    Ned Nederlander got a reaction from robanadana in It's official!   
    Respectfully, I think your post misses the ultimate point.  It doesn't matter if this was done intentionally or due to an oversight.  And, ultimately if he was ineligible because of transfer or rules or residency status, I don't see where that matters either.  If Neumann played the kid knowing the risk, he was dead wrong.  If it was done due to an oversight or negligence, he was still dead wrong.  The buck stops with him as far as making sure that everyone on his roster is eligible for whatever reason.  That is his job and a big part of why he gets a rather sizeable salary from the taxpayers of NISD.  In this case, that was not done and it has put a huge black eye on the athletic department and the district.  Given the perception (real or not) that football and basketball have been recruiting PA Memorial kids, this goes a long way toward validating that belief, unfortunately. 
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    Ned Nederlander reacted to Cougar14.2 in It's official!   
    Wait, the waiver was filed with the UIL, "The UIL saw something and contacted the school."  MEANING THE UIL NEVER CLEARED THE KID INITIALLY AND NEUMANN PLAYED HIM ANYWAY? Paperwork with the UIL usually isn't filed until something happens at the district level first. If everything was on the up and up WHY DID PAM VOTE FOR NED TO FORFEIT AFTER SIGNING THE RELEASE? Do you not understand that or choose to believe the garbage you're being fed? 
    *Somebody break out the transfer rules to make sure I'm not relaying a misnomer.
    Any kid transferring into the program must sit for a set amount of time as specified in the transfer rules(Number of days?). I believe it's 15 days. Laday came to Ned and didn't sit the allotted amount of time which Neumann knew about. Tells me he was negligent on following up on the information dealing his "surprise" transfer from down the street or he felt like since PAM signed a waiver for a kid they didn't need nobody would turn him in for trying to skate around the rules. Either way he's at fault.
    The Oliver boys transferred from King the prior semester but never played for Crosby because Riordan did his due diligence, same reason the new o-line transfer from King had to sit. The difference is the first game of the season when we played Nederland Riordan knew he didn't need them to win.      
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    Ned Nederlander reacted to WOSgrad in It's official!   
    I don't believe that Neumann would intentionally play a player whose eligibility was questionable.  However, there are some lingering questions that remain unanswered:
    1.   What was the purpose of the eligibility waiver? The only one of the waivers that would seem to apply would be the parent resident waiver.  The rule governing this is in Rule 463 of the UIL Constitution and Contest Rules and it states:
    (2) Parent Residence Rule.
    (A) If a District Executive Committee finds that a student does not comply with Sections 403(f) and 442 (residence rules), that student may apply for a waiver of the apparent non-compliance and a declaration of eligibility.

    (B) A waiver of the residence rule shall be null and void when either the District Executive Committee or the State Executive Committee determines that the student changed schools for athletic purposes.

    (C) If a student who has been granted a waiver returns to the school in the attendance zone where the parents reside, a Previous Athletic Participation Form shall be furnished to the District Executive Committee, who will rule on the student’s eligibility at that school.
     
    2.    If this is the waiver, when did Nederland submit such a waiver for Kevin Laday?  By the rule, a waiver would only be appropriate to apply for if the DEC ruled that the student did not comply.  Did the DEC make such a ruling? And if so, why would Nederland allow Laday to play in varsity play under the shadow of this ruling?  Was the original waiver application granted and the UIL contact which occurred following the week of the Nederland/Livingston game notifying them that they had received information which may compel them to reverse their granting of the waiver or was the word that Nederland got last week that the UIL had denied Nederland/Laday's original application?
    These questions leave open the possibility that, at the very least, there was some lack of due diligence here.
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    Ned Nederlander got a reaction from Tyler Dixson in Nederland forfeits win to livingston   
    Wow!  Dropping the phrase "racially motivated" in your post shows a stunning lack of self awareness.  Mayfield may have some skin in the game given what happened with his son, but to add a racial component to this is ridiculous.  Plus, I would encourage you to think about that statement a little - the kid we are talking about being ineligible is African American.
    (Lest I be accused of being "racially motivated", I just want to state for the record that I am white and have lived in Nederland for 40 plus years.  And, I still think he was dead wrong in how this was handled.)
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    Ned Nederlander got a reaction from BMTSoulja1 in Nederland forfeits win to livingston   
    If your potential starting QB was a move in, you certainly do not leave it up to her to make sure that everything is documented properly.  We are definitely in Harry Truman territory here - the buck stops with Neumann on this one.
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    Ned Nederlander got a reaction from Realville in Nederland forfeits win to livingston   
    There is no 'in Neumann's defense' in this issue.  Confirming eligibility of players and making sure you are in compliance with UIL rules is a big part of why he receives a six-figure salary from the tax payers of Nederland ISD.  No need to speculate on what happened or what he knew and when - he did not do his job here.
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    Ned Nederlander got a reaction from MAYFIELD in Nederland forfeits win to livingston   
    If your potential starting QB was a move in, you certainly do not leave it up to her to make sure that everything is documented properly.  We are definitely in Harry Truman territory here - the buck stops with Neumann on this one.
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    Ned Nederlander got a reaction from Statue21 in Nederland forfeits win to livingston   
    If this is true, it is absolutely inexcusable that Nederland did not do its due diligence and either have the PAPF filled out properly or investigate where this kid was living.  What a joke and a huge black eye to the district and the athletic department.  
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    Ned Nederlander reacted to modmouse78 in Vidor 29 Nederland 28/FINAL (OT)   
    I'll second that. It's mostly projects
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    Ned Nederlander reacted to Proud Dawg in Vidor 29 Nederland 28/FINAL (OT)   
    Refs missed on both sides. Of you are gonna lose the game cause of a refs call, then you should play better. Matthew's have the crowd the thumbs up. Really classy. Or maybe he was just throwing his V's up
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    Ned Nederlander got a reaction from Footballfan1209 in Vidor 29 Nederland 28/FINAL (OT)   
    I wish everyone realized how stupid they sound when they say (fill in the blank's) referees are here.  All of the crews are from a wide area and the coaches can veto a crew they don't want.  Do you really think that Jeff Matthews would allow a "Nederland" crew to call the game?
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    Ned Nederlander got a reaction from NeDeRlAnD b-DoG fAn in Vidor 29 Nederland 28/FINAL (OT)   
    I wish everyone realized how stupid they sound when they say (fill in the blank's) referees are here.  All of the crews are from a wide area and the coaches can veto a crew they don't want.  Do you really think that Jeff Matthews would allow a "Nederland" crew to call the game?
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    Ned Nederlander got a reaction from Alpha Wolf in Vidor 29 Nederland 28/FINAL (OT)   
    I wish everyone realized how stupid they sound when they say (fill in the blank's) referees are here.  All of the crews are from a wide area and the coaches can veto a crew they don't want.  Do you really think that Jeff Matthews would allow a "Nederland" crew to call the game?
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    Ned Nederlander got a reaction from Holman in Vidor 29 Nederland 28/FINAL (OT)   
    I wish everyone realized how stupid they sound when they say (fill in the blank's) referees are here.  All of the crews are from a wide area and the coaches can veto a crew they don't want.  Do you really think that Jeff Matthews would allow a "Nederland" crew to call the game?
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    Ned Nederlander got a reaction from Rez Ipsa in Vidor 29 Nederland 28/FINAL (OT)   
    I wish everyone realized how stupid they sound when they say (fill in the blank's) referees are here.  All of the crews are from a wide area and the coaches can veto a crew they don't want.  Do you really think that Jeff Matthews would allow a "Nederland" crew to call the game?
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    Ned Nederlander got a reaction from biaplayer in The State of 22-5A   
    1-1 due to an inexcusable act that has put a black eye on the entire athletic department and district.  Embarrassing.
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    Ned Nederlander got a reaction from USC 35 in Humble JV vs Dayton JV   
    I'm shocked that this keeps popping up every week.
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    Ned Nederlander got a reaction from JRidge in Ozen H.S. Head Baseball Coach Moving On!   
    Saw him twice this year and really liked the way he coached.  That is a pretty big loss for Ozen, but if he goes to a program with some experience and a little talent, I think he will be very good.  Best of luck to him and to Ozen.
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    Ned Nederlander got a reaction from td in Jack Dallas   
    Congratulations to Jack Dallas.  Great player and an even better kid.
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    Ned Nederlander got a reaction from goldenlady in 22-5A   
    If it ends up with three teams tied at 8-6, and if I am reading that right, with three teams vying for two spots, the team that wins the coin toss should automatically be in.  The other teams would like play for the fourth spot with the loser being out.  After that the teams could either play for seeding or flip again to save pitching.   
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    Ned Nederlander reacted to coachdagough in Nederland's Zach Friesz commits   
    Congrats to Zach and his parents ( Gordon and Shelley ) on this fine accomplishment ! I remember Zach when he was an infant and then before he hit his growth spurt playing on the Hurricanes with my son, Zach Gough. Gordon was an assistant boys basketball coach at Vidor High School for me in 1998-1999, along with Brian English. AND ALL three of us have a son named Zach !!!!
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    Ned Nederlander reacted to WOSgrad in Nederland's Zach Friesz commits   
    It looks like Coach Davis is getting a good load of local talent!
    Congrats!
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