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This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up Congrats to Nederland’s Hayden Hefner (#12), Memorial’s Nate Clover (#21), and Silsbee’s Braelon Bush (#33) on Rival’s newly released state rankings.  
Two things:
1)  Was Rival’s privy to Hayden’s performances against the “Big 3”?  Surely that was one of the most important factors from a recruiting service as prestigious as them.  
2)  Where in the world did these three play summer ball?

Haha, I didn’t read the thread before I picked a score.  So I guess that’s gonna for sure be the score, right?

This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up 2017-18 HIGH SCHOOL BOYS BASKETBALL RANKINGS
WEEK OF JANUARY 28, 2018
 
6A-4A Poll

Rank, Team, Record, Points, Previous Rank, Next Week's Opponents
1.    Port Arthur Memorial (9), 24-5, 149, 1, 2/6 at #12 Nederland; 2/9 at Port Neches-Groves
2.    Beaumont West Brook (1), 26-3, 140, 2, 2/6 at Pasadena Rayburn; 2/9 vs. Pasadena
3.    Silsbee, 20-8, 130, 4, 2/6 vs. #14 Little Cypress-Mauriceville; 2/9 vs. West Orange-Stark
4.    Galena Park North Shore, 22-9, 110, 5, 2/6 at Humble Summer Creek; 2/9 at Baytown Sterling
5.    Humble, 25-7, 108, 4, 2/6 vs. #8 Crosby; 2/9 vs. Kingwood Park
6.    Atascocita, 24-6, 106, 6, 2/6 at Goose Creek Memorial; 2/9 vs. Kingwood
7.    Beaumont Central, 19-8, 93, 7, 2/6 at Port Neches-Groves; 2/9 vs. Lumberton
8.    Crosby, 25-4, 80, 8, 2/6 at #5 Humble; 2/9 vs. New Caney
9.    Deer Park, 25-6, 72, 9, 2/6 vs. Pasadena Dobie; 2/9 at Pasadena Memorial
10.  Beaumont Ozen, 15-11, 54, 11, 2/6 vs. Livingston; 2/9 at Vidor
11.  Porter, 21-9, 44, 10, 2/6 at New Caney; 2/9 at Barbers Hill
12.  Nederland, 23-11, 35, 12, 2/6 vs. #1 Port Arthur Memorial; 2/9 at Livingston
13.  Hardin-Jefferson, 27-9, 31, 15, 2/6 vs. Tarkington
14.  Little Cypress-Mauriceville, 20-11, 27, 13, 2/6 at #3 Silsbee; 2/9 at Hamshire-Fannett
15.  Shepherd, 17-8, 10, 15, 2/6 vs. Jasper; 2/9 vs. Huntington
Others receiving votes: Diboll 4, Channelview 3, Huffman Hargrave 3, Jasper 2
  
3A-Private Poll
Rank, Team, Record, Points, Previous Rank, Next Week's Opponents
1.    East Chambers (10), 29-1, 150, 1, 2/6 at #9 Kountze; 2/9 vs. Anahuac
2.   Tenaha, 10-3, 128, 4, 2/6 at Woden; 2/9 at Joaquin
3.    Nacogdoches Central Heights, 25-7, 123, 3, 2/6 at #4 Pollok Central
4.    Pollok Central, 23-7, 117, 5, 2/6 vs. #4 Nacogdoches Central Heights; 2/9 vs. #11 Newton
5.    Dallardsville Big Sandy, 24-7, 106, 6, 2/6 vs. Lovelady; 2/9 vs. #10 Grapeland
6.    Leggett, 27-3, 97, 7, 2/6 vs. Goodrich; 2/9 at Spurger
6.    Shelbyville, 23-4, 97, 3, 2/9 at Woden
8.    Lufkin Pineywoods, 21-5, 81, 9, 2/6 vs. Zavalla; 2/9 vs. Colmesneil
9.    Kountze, 20-9, 66, 11, 2/6 vs. #1 East Chambers; 2/9 at Port Arthur Bob Hope
10.  Grapeland, 20-8, 59, 13, 2/6 at Centerville; 2/9 at #5 Dallardsville Big Sandy
11.  San Augustine, 8-4, 56, 10, 2/6 vs. Chireno; 2/9 vs. Timpson
11.  Newton, 9-4, 83, 8, 2/6 at Corrigan-Camden; 2/9 at #4 Pollok Central
13.  Evadale, 16-12, 32, 14, 2/6 at Sabine Pass
14.  Coldspring-Oakhurst, 17-6, 21, 15, 2/6 vs. Hempstead; 2/9 vs. Onalaska
15.  Martinsville, 17-4, 7, NR, 2/6 at Apple Springs; 2/9 at Wells
Others receiving votes:  Broaddus 4, Beaumont Kelly Catholic 2, Buna 1, Woodville 1

I went down the list of every team in the coverage are and wrote down a player or players from each team that could possibly be on the list and with that here is my list. 
I did not realize the I excluded the Rhea Twins at firs
1. Fabian White- Atascocita 
2. Devon McCain- Silsbee
3. Jordyn Adams- Silsbee
4. Sean Rhea
5. Deion Rhea
4. Jakobe Dill- Central
5. Eli Parquet- West Brook
6. Darrion Chatman- PA Memorial
7. Jaylon Williams- Central
8. Derian Jones- Ozen
9. Braleon Bush- Silsbee
10. Trajan Harris- Silsbee
11. TJ Stanford - Kountze
12. Ashton Thomas- Jasper
13. Courtland Pender- Ozen
14. Michael McCain- Silsbee
15. Kevin Howard- Nederland
16. Katon Brown- LCM
17. Darrel Jones- Nederland
18. Byron Arceneux- Central
19. KJ Miller- WOS
20. Thailan Wesley- PA Memorial
21. Remi Connell- Buna
22. Jalen Sneed- HJ
23. Alex Connell- Buna
24. Tyga Edwards- Kountze 
25. Zane Zoubek- HJ
Honorable Mentions
Willie Jones- Silsbee
Chrisrian Williams- Woodville
Braden Bridges- LCM
Kerrion Lewis- Buna
Nick King- Bob Hope
Cordell David- EC
Jamyus Jones- Sabine Pass
Daniel Sam- Sabine Pass
Clayton Carpenter- West Brook
Alex Catt- Orangefield

As i stated to Mr.Shapiro kids or parents cannot get in their feelings. 15 Man roster for varsity that’s it , 12-15 for both JV A/B,same for freshman. The true question is how many of the those kids are varsity level players especially if you a junior on jv aometimes the writing is on the wall not for all but for some it is. The truth is unless kids are putting in the work during the summer they will get left behind period point blank. I hear ppl talking about scholarships how many guys have earned a scholarship from all 3 Bmt schools in the last 5 yrs. if you do a breakdown it seems like a lot but you can be fooled by so called talent. Last year only 3 kids from any of the Bmt schools went on to play college ball. Here is a very harsh reality about HS . No matter how many points certain players score, it may not ever translate in to playing  Juco,NAIA,D1,D2 or D3.  Ppl may not like it, but it’s the absolute truth.

Ozen is barely old enough to drive, much less have a history that is worth mourning over. This isn't a sad day, it's a bright day for the future of BISD and the children of the district. I just shake my head at those who think the BOM is not doing what is best for the district and they should seat the recently (and incomprehensibly) elected school board. If some of the stolen money or the money used to build the shrine on IH-10 had been retained and managed properly, then maybe the money would be there to fix Central. It's not there so it's not being fixed. Maybe the "community" in Beaumont can apply this "sad day" to the legacy of those who they elected over and over again and see the err of their ways. Probably not but maybe.

West Brook moves to 20-3.  Much improved since last year. 

Stereotyping is always dangerous.  Like most things, depends on which program.  MANY would obviously surprise you.  
I can say that I CAN’T say where he developed and learned those qualities because he certainly already had them when I first saw him about a year or so ago.  I’m sure it starts at home because his parents are incredible people.  I’m sure it was developed in the Nederland school system because that’s the way those kids are coached.  But I DO know who coached him in previous summers and those guys absolutely promote team basketball.  

No because again Soulja it’s apples and oranges the talent level on the summer circuit isn’t even comparable to high school ,one is the projection of where you will play on the next level compared to what is being asked of you to help your team win which means playing out of position. Kid plays the 4 he’s not even close to that but he does it with no complaints he just plays the game the correct way. Ask any coach in this district would they love to have him the answer is yes. Unfair to compare him to kids of the past from Nederland those guys had very good players around them. 

I have zero doubt you are out of your element in this argument, as virtually everyone has known other than you.  Indeed this has become a ridiculous, tired line that you’ve taken throughout this “crusade” of yours. 
Of course there are a variety of ways to earn scholarships.   But for basketball, certainly the best recipe is playing high profile summer ball.   But don’t take my word for it, ask the guys that have those schollies to give.   And I’ve been to multiple events in the past few years with scores of those guys.  One such event routinely has 300 plus D1 coaches under 1 roof.  Let me know the next time a “Big 3” game gets say 10 percent of that number, maybe even 1 percent of that number.  
But for someone who always seems focused on points alone, it is nice to see you mention being a teammate.  Because unselfishness and being a great teammate happens to be one of this kid’s biggest strengths.  

Ned is led by a sophomore that doesn’t have a lot of help around him, but I know you love to hate him. He’s very unselfish and doesn’t force things often. Very solid player, but I think his best days are certainly junior and senior season. His first game vs the “Big 3” wasn’t a very good game for him, but he scored 15 with 6 boards and he was the only one to register on the dunk-o-meter that night. Ned only scored in the 30’s that night. Ned will have a lot of close games and a 3rd or 4th place district finish, but the kid will continue to improve. Hope to see him add some weight in the next 2.5 years though!

Yall tell Hefner to just play the game and try to have fun and ignore the grownups.

I KNEW there was going to be comments about points (or lack thereof) in this thread by a certain poster.   Because to the casual observer, that’s all they look at.  Ironically, I woke up this morning and saw on my FB feed one of my friends from the Brook raving about Hefner.   Last night was the first time he’d seen him play and was extremely impressed.  On a night he had but 7 points.   Why?  Because he’s been around the game for over 40 years and realizes that scoring is only ONE of many facets to the game.  And Mamba will tell you the same thing - often the best PLAYERS don’t score the most points...

I've see him play a few times. That kid is something else, as a sophomore...

It’s all potential he will keep getting better this is just a 16 year old kid he want play good every night that game Is over prepare yourself for the next and be better would be my words to the kiddo

There should be no hating on this young man. All eyes are on him and he knows it yet he just goes ahead and plays the game.I can see why college coaches are high on him, he has a great shot and will probably bulk up over the next few years. He is special!! 

An opinion is just that! What matters is what those colleges see. Hefner is the real deal and is just a soph. No matter what happens with Nederland the next 3 years, He will be one of the most highly sought after HS kids in the country. 

I hate when ppl come for kids. This isn’t  your first time making snide remarks Soulja your not around these kids kids enough to even try and make an assumption about if he is good enough . What college coaches have you spoken with ,how many in your contacts I’m guessing  ZERO.im no expert either but I do talk to coaches a lot of them & have a bunch in my contacts . If you knew anything  about the game it’s always about upside. Quentin Grimes was not even close to where he is now as a fresh or soph. But it’s called development and that’s something you know nothing about obviously. In his class he has to be top 50 in the state of Texas and based on POTENTIAL  he could get to 6’6 -6’8  wing type which would put his recruitment on a whole other level.  Stop comparing summer ball to Hs ball they are like strawberries and grapes. Summer ball is about what you will play on the next level Hs ball is about what your teams needs you to in ordee to win .  STAY IN YO LANE !!!!! 

All seriousness, I've seen WB play and between Parquet and the 6'8" Jr., they erase a lot of shots, so it don't surprise me...

Parquet played solid defense, as well as the rest of West Brook. Not sure how many blocks WB had, but it seemed like a lot. 

I mean, don't get it twisted.  A lot of these kids, I'm close too and I support this basketball team. I also know how good Jones is and I know he could've scored more points.  It would just make more sense if the kid can be aggressive from the jump, then why not.  As I've said before, if this game could've been easier, then why not?  Put them away early if you can.  And I'm no coach and wouldn't expect a kid to listen to me.  I'm a fan of Mike T and believe in him.  But I will give my opinion.  As far as fan thinking that they're coaches in the stands?  I'm sure you and I both saw a few of those in the building last night...

Give credit to Ozen.  They had a good game plan and executed it well.  WB will be ok but has some things to clean up, especially on offense.  

The refs called a good game.  One of the better games I've seen around here lately.  Certainly didn't affect the outcome or the margin.  But I guess there's always a clown who has to bring up the officiating. 

Wait till they tell the Chinese about how they feel like slaves in the U.S.