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  1. West Orange Stark vs Newton

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    6 minutes ago, dj said:

    U can't say that he is better.for one did u know Cooper starts both ways.so starting at Lb and running back isn't easy. And second the last 2yrs Cooper has played against tougher competition. Not taking away from him or there team.theyre gud .but these teams they're playing against aren't that gud.if u put Cooper in the same position he would put up crazy stats.once again Newton will come to play friday.but  who has they played in the last 2yrs that's irrelevant. Theyre tremendous for 3A.ivr watched both there games this year.kirbyville is horrible.and my feelings are hurt behind silsbee.play calling and not been able to wrap up and tackle.

    Cooper is a great player and a very good running back. He simply isn't on the level that Barlow is on. If he were, he would at least have some offers coming in and I truly hope that he does soon. I am definitely rooting for the kid. But, Barlow is a true college type running back; from his unbelievable size already, his speed, vision and his overall play at the RB position. That is why he holds offers from SEC, Big12, ACC, Big10 and Pac12 schools. Sometimes guys are just better than others and there is nothing to be ashamed of there. I'm sure WOS has plenty of guys in certain positions that are better than Newton's. It's just not the RB position this year and everyone know's that if they're being real. You know football, so put the pride aside. It's not a big deal. Both guys are dang good players.  

  2. West Orange Stark vs Newton

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    16 hours ago, dj said:

    Chorizo I appreciate that. Bcz I don't think some ppl actually watch football.size doesn't bother w.o they run a 50 defense. Which tbey shoot gaps.u can't have the big slow o/l that can't move.ppl don't see that teams like vidor  Nederland, and png does some of the best blocking for any classification.and are very well coached.and with the QB change has them looking a 120 % better.and do ppl realize mr.cooper is back.he is as gud as any back Newton has.u can't lose a kid of that caliber and expect to beat a caliber team like Nederland.with a QB that had never started a varsity game.when u lose a game like that.u really see who ur dogs are on ur team.

    I understand the Cooper kid is a good running back and a difference maker for the Mustangs, but he is not as good as Darwin Barlow. That is your pride getting in the way of being realistic. He is definitely good, but not on the same level and everyone know's that. I believe this will be a good game. WOS lost one game by 1 point to a good 5A team and everyone thinks they're horrible. That is not the case and they will make a good run this season. They have competed for a state title four years in a row and counting, so that speaks volumes and no other team in the state can say they have done so. I have much respect for WOS. I do have Newton winning this game this year, but each team will give each other all they want. 

  3. West Orange Stark vs Newton

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    2 hours ago, CardinalBacker said:

    I’ll be honest here.... Newton is a monster this year, but they have always had a tendency to break down under pressure. If the Chain Gang gets a stop or two early, I think we’ll see Newton making a long, quiet bus ride back up 87. 

    I’m still picking Newton in this one, though. 

    You’re living in the past. Newton is completely different from when BC was on the schedule the past 4 years or so. I agree with you, Newton did break under pressure. Newton was one dimensional, had players in wrong positions and then would only run two players the entire night. The play calling limited them so much and they were beat by lower teams for that reason. Now, they have a top notch OC that opens the playbook and gives the ball to every athlete on the field. It also helps that they have a completely stacked team as well. Silsbee has great athletes and it still looked like men against boys. I don’t see them breaking at all this season. Not to Gilmer nor WOS. Way too good this season and I give most of the praise to the new OC. I don’t think Newton wins state last season if the didn’t have him. Probably gets knocked out to a disciplined team that can stop scat left and scat right. 

  9. Enterprise Top 10 Rankings: Week 9

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    1 hour ago, BMTSoulja1 said:

    I've seen both.  WB he like 6 athletes as good or better than Brown from Newton...

    I'm not saying that i don't agree with it anymore. I am just saying that all 6 of them better be 4 star athletes and have big offers rolling in. If they are better, then they will be seen and do great things. I am glad to hear they have some future guys that i can watch on Saturdays. 

  10. Enterprise Top 10 Rankings: Week 9

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    38 minutes ago, CardinalBacker said:

    All kidding aside, a lot of kids from down here really don’t care to play beyond high school. I know... I had one that graduated last year that wouldn’t even bother to talk with college coaches who reached out to him. Anybody who played us last year knew about our o-line. Not a single one of those  seniors is playing ball this fall. It wasn’t because none of them were good enough to play at the next level. In fact, there’s only one kid playing college ball this fall from last year’s team.... and his name didn’t get called over the PA a lot last year if you know what I mean. We just don’t prioritize playing college ball as highly as schools in communities where there aren’t any options for a young man graduating from high school. When high school is over, it’s time to move on with your life... and for all but a few, that means leaving football behind by choice.

    As far as you thinking that I “should be uplifting for any high school kid from our area that is going to play college ball,” I think that you kinda have your priorities out-of-whack. 

    I totally understand where you're coming from, CardinalBacker. But, i do not have my priorities "out-of-whack". If a kid is good enough and is getting real attention and big time offers for football, then they would care about it. I am all about education and getting your degree. Whether it is playing football or not, i want all kids to go to college. If you're good enough to earn a full ride scholarship from a division 1 school, then not many people will pass that up and just decide not to play football. I believe all kids prioritize playing football at the next level, but some kids let reality sink in and know that it's just not for them. If you have the talent and size for the next level, then why not chase it? 

  12. Enterprise Top 10 Rankings: Week 9

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    13 minutes ago, CardinalBacker said:

    Ok... so it’s okay for you guys to say “we’ve got a kid that’s better than anybody at WB” but wrong of me to ask what happened to your last Wonderboy? 

    It’s not hard to look like D1 Talent when you primarily face 3A Teams. The only problem is that yall’s 4 stars look a little tarnished when they line up against four stars that have played at a higher classification in high school. 

    Not trying to stir the pot, but the kid that was a world beater at Legacy looked remarkably average against 4A D1 teams last year. Your boy might have nine picks, but I’ll be the first to say it’s a lot easier to get picks against a wing-T qb like ours than one from say, Lake Travis. 

    I mean, Lumberton White STJFL Senior Tackle is looking pretty tough this year, and they might win a championship, but they probably shouldn’t be ranked.  

    Did i say that he was better than anyone at West Brook? I simply said that there will not be 6 players that is better. Hell, there could be a few better, but there won't be 6 in total. 

    Our guy did pretty good one on one with Barns from Silsbee this year. I am not saying the Newton kid is all that, but he is damn good player that will have 20+ offers. You're the one that is doing all of this. Don't down grade the kids. You should be uplifting for any high school did from our area that is going to play college ball. If there were division 1 kids coming out of Bridge City, then i would be rooting for them on Saturday's just as i would kids from Newton. 

  14. Enterprise Top 10 Rankings: Week 9

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    1 hour ago, BMTSoulja1 said:

    I'm talking about eye test.  I've actually seen Newton play over the last 2 years as well as West Brook. It's accurate IMO what I did.  Maybe I should've worded it just as good as. But yea, the WB RB, the WB QB, and like 3 or the WR's.  Question for you, FastTurtle.  Have you honestly seen West Brook within the last 2 years?

    I understand. I do not think Newton will beat West Brook, but with this years team, it definitely would be close. I was just stating that WB does not have 6 players better than Newton's best. I understand that they're bigger and have great athletes, but Newton has plenty that would start for WB. 

     

    1 hour ago, CardinalBacker said:

    The local rankings are meant to be a joke, I believe... kinda like the “pound-for-pound” rankings you see in fighting. 

    Newton believes that they should be ranked higher because they have a better record against weaker competition. And another “4 star” recruit we’ll probably never hear about agains once he gets to the next level and faces some actual competition. What ever happened to that qb from 14 or so that went to A&M? 

    Newton has a successful program with a fantastic record playing smaller schools. “We just play who the UIL tells us.” There. I beat you to it, Newton Fan. 

    In Newton’s “up” years they can beat a lot of bigger, mid-level schools like us or Orangefield. There have been years like 15 where we beat Newton and still finished behind them in the year end rankings... how do we finish behind Lil’ Ol’ Newton after we spanked y’all on the field?

    Newton is Newton.  They get sympathy votes based on how well they do in their smaller classifications, but still suffer from an inferiority complex because they know that they can’t compete with the actual powerhouses in the area on the field.  

     

    I do agree with you on the local rankings being a joke. I never said that Newton should be better than than anyone just because they have a "4 star" recruit. No, i do not think Newton would beat West Brook. I was just stating the simple fact that West Brook does not have 6 players better than Newton's best. But, you do not have to down the kids that go play college ball like you just did. That was really uncalled for. For your information, the QB from 2015 started the first game against UCLA and is currently second string and just playing on special teams. He still has two more seasons after this, so his time will come. Newton actually called PNG and PAM to play next year and they declined, but WOS and Carthage will be on the schedule. At least Newton tries to play top tier teams. 

  16. Enterprise Top 10 Rankings: Week 9

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    15 hours ago, BMTSoulja1 said:

    Now, I was going to roll with everything that you said, but this is downright ridiculous.  Not being biased, but I've actually seen Newton AND Brook play this year.  WB has close to 6 athletes better than Newton's best athlete...

    So, West Brook has 6 players that is better than Newton's Tamazia Brown?? He is a 4 star defensive back / receiver that received an offer from Oklahoma State before his junior year even started this year. Oh, he also has 9 interceptions this season which is probably leading the state in all classifications if i had to guess. Now, i will sit here and wait for you to list 6 players that are better. Your statement was bold and out of reach, BMT Soulja1. BUt, i still want you to list them. I am very curious. 

  21. Bridge City vs Bay City 2nd Round

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    15 hours ago, BC Cardinal97 said:

    expecting Bridge City to roll in this one. Hopefully defense got some work in this week. If bridge city expects to stay alive in the next couple of weeks then the defense needs to work out there kinks and give 100% Every play. if they do that then this team has as good of a chance as anybody to be playing in AT&T come December 18.

    I'm definitely rooting for Bridge City, but you just stated a bold statement. I think Bridge City can possibly pull this game off, but i do think it would definitely end that following week. They are a good team, but not near a state championship team. You have to face reality at some point. 

  23. #10 Woodville (9-1) vs Anahuac (4-6)

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    17 hours ago, WildcatBacker said:

    I don't have any problems talking trash and will add my 2 cents in here...Woodville WOULD have beaten Newton this year. I've seen them both play and Woodville was much more disciplined on both sides of the ball. And if you buy into that whole common opponents thing, Newton beat us (Kirbyville) by 27, Woodville beat us by 32. Plus Newton beat Corrigan-Camden 43-8. Woodville thrashed them 51-0. Eagleswoodville#1, you gotta throw that political correctness out the window sometimes and back your boys. Yall got it together and would have given Newton a loss this yr. All these Newton folk can only talk and believe me, they're secretly glad yall weren't on their schedule.

    Well, Newton did score 43 of those points on Corrigan-Camden in the first half and did not score again. They didn't want to score again out of respect. It would have been 100-0 if that were the case. None of this matters though. Woodville has done great things and i am excited to see what they're doing. But, the point margin does not matter when you take into consideration of Newton pulling their dogs off before blowing teams out. I'm sure Woodville did that as well too. Don't knock Newton just because your Wildcats aren't playing up to your expectations. I root for you guys as well, but score a touchdown on Newton next season and come talk. 

  24. #10 Woodville (9-1) vs Anahuac (4-6)

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    I'm really happy to see Woodville playing this kind of ball. I have been rooting for them all season and i hope to see them upset a lot of teams in the playoffs. But, Newton shouldn't be in this conversation. Newton would win this game convincingly being that they're really, really good this year. Good luck, Woodville. Go win six more games and hopefully join Newton in Arlington. :)

  25. Buna 40 Coldspring-Oakhurst 35/FINAL

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    Coach Barbay has been one heck of a coach for Newton this year. He has opened up the playbook and is using multiple athletes on offense. Newton is used to only using two or three guys and just pounding the ball, but this is not the case this year. His son will hold all single season passing records for Newton after this year and a huge amount of Newton's success has been from him. He's a Barbay and is still old school, therefore he fits perfectly for Newton's program. I do think Coldsprings would be having more success with him. 

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