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My regional predictions:
 
District 9
1. Lorena 4-0, 6-3 - Still has to play Fairfield - prediction 5-0
2. Robinson 3-1, 7-2 - Still has to play Mexia - prediction 4-1
3. Connally 2-2, 5-4 - Still has to play Salado - prediction 3-2
4. Salado 2-2, 5-4 - Still has to play Connally - prediction 2-3
Fairfield 1-3, 2-7 - Still has to play Lorena - prediction 1-4
Mexia 0-4, 2-7 - Still has to play Robinson - prediction 0-5
 

District 10
1. Giddings 4-0, 7-2 - Still has to play Columbus - prediction 5-0
2. Caldwell 3-1, 5-4 - Still has to play La Grange - prediction 4-1
3. Columbus 2-2, 3-6 - Still has to play Giddings - prediction 2-3 (+9 differential)
4. Gonzales 1-3, 4-5 - Still has to play Smithville - prediction 2-3 (-1 differential)
La Grange 2-2, 3-5 - Still has to play Caldwell - prediction 2-3 (-8 differential)
Smithville 0-4, 0-9 - Still has to play Gonzales - prediction 0-5
 
District 11
1. Bellville 3-0, 7-2 - Still has to play Shepherd - prediction 4-0
2. Shepherd 3-0, 7-1 - Still has to play Bellville - prediction 3-1
3. Tarkington 1-2, 3-5 - Still has to play Madisonville - prediction 2-2
4. Madisonville 1-2, 2-7 - Still has to play Tarkington - prediction 1-3
Brookshire Royal 0-4, 1-7 - 0-4
 
District 12
1. West Orange-Stark 3-0, 9-0 - Still has to play Orangefield - prediction 4-0
2. Liberty 2-2, 8-2 - 2-2 (differential +12)
3. Hardin-Jefferson 1-2, 5-3 - Still has to play Hamshire-Fannett - prediction 2-2 (differential +1)
4. Orangefield 2-1, 5-4 - Still has to play West Orange-Stark - prediction 2-2 (differential -13)
Hamshire-Fannett 0-3, 0-8 - Still has to play Hardin-Jefferson - prediction 0-4
 
4A Region III D2 Playoff Predictions
Lorena-1 vs Gonzales-4
Tarkington-3 vs Liberty-2
Giddings-1 vs Salado-4
Shepherd-2 vs Hardin-Jefferson-3
Bellville-1 vs Orangefield-4
Caldwell-2 vs Connally-3
West Orange-Stark-1 vs Madisonville-4
Robinson-2 vs Columbus-3

Will it happen?  Last team to do it was SFA in 1994.  TJ's last was in 1982. Lincoln 1973.  PAM never.
Don't feel bad Ned, PNG and Beaumont fans.  You have them beat on that record.  Ned, PNG, Ozen, Central and West Brook have all accomplished the feat this century.  Let them enjoy their season.  It's not over yet though is it??   

Not gonna happen. We're gonna get our first district championship since 1978, much bigger.

Liberty coached a GENIUS game plan! They did everything possible to utilize their forte which was size! The offense they ran tonight was not their normal offense to begin the game! They ran their Wing T as usual later in the contest but I would say that 80 percent of the game was an offense called the Double Wing which is comparable to the SlotT on steroids! I have seen this offense in lil league programs for years but never in high school! It was efficient, it ran tons of time off the clock and they would wait till the play clock reached 3 seconds every time before they ran a play! So it was ball control and good old fashioned ground and pound! It was not much fun to watch but it gave WOS a chance to prepare for whatever someone may throw at them! I promise you that others will try this on the Stangs but the result will be the same! The Double Wing is very hard to defend and to be honest if they continue to run it they will go deep in the playoffs! The craziest thing about that game is that they only scored 7! If this was any other defense having to face what we saw tonight they would have scored 40 easily! Great job by both teams and no injuries! It was FNF at its best

I give Liberty major props.  They used every trick in the book.  If they had a pass defense they might have had an actual chance.  It's all fine and dandy to rush 3 yards every play and go for it every 4th down and go for an onside kick to start the 2nd half but if you can't stop the other team from scoring it's futile.

Will it happen?  Last team to do it was SFA in 1994.  TJ's last was in 1982. Lincoln 1973.  PAM never.
Don't feel bad Ned, PNG and Beaumont fans.  You have them beat on that record.  Ned, PNG, Ozen, Central and West Brook have all accomplished the feat this century.  Let them enjoy their season.  It's not over yet though is it??   

McCarty was brought to WOS from Lamar with Hooks to help the transition of merging Stark and West Orange. He did a fantastic job making a smooth transition for both schools. Remember they were hated rivals. In my opinion McCarty was more of a Public Relations expert than a coach but that was the most important job at the time. Without McCarty who knows what WOS might have become.

Closer than it should have been. but, Flanagan , and the Bruins win 8 games in a season. A first for this evening regime. Kudos. let's win the 9th, next week!

Coach T was head baseball coach and was linebacker/ defensive end coach at Stark. Bearden was the Jv football and Assistant baseball coach. JB's wife was the drill team director. The first graduating class of WOS was 1978. WOS Assistant coaches were names like Dan Hooks, Cornel Thompson. Robert Tywater, Wilbert Florence, Glen Hill and Ronnie Anderson.

Oh... just realized we have a troll on our hands. That's cute!  We can compare with the Gilmer and Carthages out there easily. In the past 5 seasons we've won just as many titles as both of them, have played in the same number of state finals as both of them and pretty much the only stat either has us beat in is a single head-to-head game with both. Gilmer is 61-7 since 2012, WOS is 60-7. 
WOS hasn't lost before the Quarterfinals since 2010 so we've done pretty well outside of our apparently horrendous neck of the woods. 
And if you wanna go back further than 5 years try me >;-). I was being kind keeping it to 5.
Remind me how   Henderson was doing before dropping down a class or actually, remind me how they did last year?
Also.. I do recall an area playoff game back in 1995?? WOS beat a certain Henderson that game. Was it the same Henderson?
 

Yes, Porter is the best HS football team in the State of Texas.  You took over Liberty's spot from last week. Enjoy it while it lasts!

Yes, Porter is the best HS football team in the State of Texas.  You took over Liberty's spot from last week. Enjoy it while it lasts!

Yes, Porter is the best HS football team in the State of Texas.  You took over Liberty's spot from last week. Enjoy it while it lasts!

Was looking for Henderson in the Top 10 after that whole to-do in the other thread but I'm confused... oh wait, there they are in the honorable mentions. ;p

Was looking for Henderson in the Top 10 after that whole to-do in the other thread but I'm confused... oh wait, there they are in the honorable mentions. ;p

Oh... just realized we have a troll on our hands. That's cute!  We can compare with the Gilmer and Carthages out there easily. In the past 5 seasons we've won just as many titles as both of them, have played in the same number of state finals as both of them and pretty much the only stat either has us beat in is a single head-to-head game with both. Gilmer is 61-7 since 2012, WOS is 60-7. 
WOS hasn't lost before the Quarterfinals since 2010 so we've done pretty well outside of our apparently horrendous neck of the woods. 
And if you wanna go back further than 5 years try me >;-). I was being kind keeping it to 5.
Remind me how   Henderson was doing before dropping down a class or actually, remind me how they did last year?
Also.. I do recall an area playoff game back in 1995?? WOS beat a certain Henderson that game. Was it the same Henderson?
 

Austin Westlake has the state record of 71 consecutive district game wins from 1990-2002.  Aledo currently has the longest active streak in the state with 65.  WOS has several streaks: 37 from 1986-1992, 32 from 2003-2008, and currently has won 36 as of this week.  We've won 68 out of the last 69 dating back to 2003.

This is one of those smoaky smart arses. Please, take your silly east Texas superiority complex back to that site. If you want to have an adult conversation here, try again. WO-S fans don't care if you're not impressed. We could win 50 state titles in a row and you would still bring up some ridiculous point like playing Scarborough in the first round. Either find a little maturity and sensible perspective or go back to playing with your crayons at the smoaky daycare center. 

BREAKING NEWS: You ain't the rest of the state.
Because, actually, the rest of the state is pretty impressed:

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Oh... just realized we have a troll on our hands. That's cute!  We can compare with the Gilmer and Carthages out there easily. In the past 5 seasons we've won just as many titles as both of them, have played in the same number of state finals as both of them and pretty much the only stat either has us beat in is a single head-to-head game with both. Gilmer is 61-7 since 2012, WOS is 60-7. 
WOS hasn't lost before the Quarterfinals since 2010 so we've done pretty well outside of our apparently horrendous neck of the woods. 
And if you wanna go back further than 5 years try me >;-). I was being kind keeping it to 5.
Remind me how   Henderson was doing before dropping down a class or actually, remind me how they did last year?
Also.. I do recall an area playoff game back in 1995?? WOS beat a certain Henderson that game. Was it the same Henderson?
 

Region 3 is turning out to be quite strange this year.  Wouldn't be surprised if there were some rematches from district 12 in there as none of the other favorites are doing too well.  
There are only 7 teams in the region with 2 losses or less, 3 of whom are in our district.
 
My regional predictions:
 
District 9
1. Lorena 3-0, 5-3 - Still has to play Connally and Fairfield - prediction 5-0
2. Robinson 2-1, 6-2 - Still has to play Salado and Mexia - prediction 4-1
3. Connally 2-1, 5-3 - Still has to play Lorena and Salado - prediction 3-2
4. Salado 2-1, 5-3 - Still has to play Robinson and Connally - prediction 2-3
Mexia 0-3, 2-6 - Still has to play Fairfield and Robinson - prediction 1-4
Fairfield 0-3, 1-7 - Still has to play  Mexia and Lorena - prediction 0-5
 
District 10
1. Giddings 3-0, 6-2 - Still has to play La Grange and Columbus - prediction 5-0
2. Caldwell 2-1, 4-4 - Still has to play Gonzales and La Grange - prediction 4-1
3. Columbus 1-2, 2-6 - Still has to play Smithville and Giddings - prediction 2-3 (+9 differential)
4. Gonzales 1-2, 4-4 - Still has to play Caldwell and Smithville - prediction 2-3 (-1 differential)
La Grange 2-1, 3-4 - Still has to play Giddings and Caldwell - prediction 2-3 (-8 differential)
Smithville 0-3, 0-8 - Still has to play Columbus and Gonzales - prediction 0-5
 
District 11
1. Bellville 2-0, 6-2 - Still has to play Madisonville and Shepherd - prediction 4-0
2. Shepherd 2-0, 6-1 - Still has to play Brookshire and Bellville - prediction 3-1
3. Tarkington 1-2, 3-5 - Still has to play Madisonville - prediction 2-2
4. Madisonville 1-1, 2-6 - Still has to play Bellville and Tarkington - prediction 1-3
Brookshire Royal 0-3, 1-6 - Still has to play Shepherd - prediction 0-4
 
District 12
1. West Orange-Stark 2-0, 8-0 - Still has to play Liberty and Orangefield - prediction 4-0
2. Hardin-Jefferson 1-1, 5-2 - Still has to play Orangefield and Hamshire-Fannett - prediction 3-1
3. Liberty 2-1, 8-1 - Still has to play West Orange-Stark - prediction 2-2
4. Orangefield 1-1, 4-4 - Still has to play Hardin-Jefferson and West Orange-Stark - prediction 1-3
Hamshire-Fannett 0-3, 0-8 - Still has to play Hardin-Jefferson - prediction 0-4
 
4A Region III D2 Playoff Predictions
Lorena-1 vs Gonzales-4
Tarkington-3 vs Hardin-Jefferson-2
Giddings-1 vs Salado-4
Shepherd-2 vs Liberty-3
Bellville-1 vs Orangefield-4
Caldwell-2 vs Connally-3
West Orange-Stark-1 vs Madisonville-4
Robinson-2 vs Columbus-3
 
 

Region 3 is turning out to be quite strange this year.  Wouldn't be surprised if there were some rematches from district 12 in there as none of the other favorites are doing too well.  
There are only 7 teams in the region with 2 losses or less, 3 of whom are in our district.
 
My regional predictions:
 
District 9
1. Lorena 3-0, 5-3 - Still has to play Connally and Fairfield - prediction 5-0
2. Robinson 2-1, 6-2 - Still has to play Salado and Mexia - prediction 4-1
3. Connally 2-1, 5-3 - Still has to play Lorena and Salado - prediction 3-2
4. Salado 2-1, 5-3 - Still has to play Robinson and Connally - prediction 2-3
Mexia 0-3, 2-6 - Still has to play Fairfield and Robinson - prediction 1-4
Fairfield 0-3, 1-7 - Still has to play  Mexia and Lorena - prediction 0-5
 
District 10
1. Giddings 3-0, 6-2 - Still has to play La Grange and Columbus - prediction 5-0
2. Caldwell 2-1, 4-4 - Still has to play Gonzales and La Grange - prediction 4-1
3. Columbus 1-2, 2-6 - Still has to play Smithville and Giddings - prediction 2-3 (+9 differential)
4. Gonzales 1-2, 4-4 - Still has to play Caldwell and Smithville - prediction 2-3 (-1 differential)
La Grange 2-1, 3-4 - Still has to play Giddings and Caldwell - prediction 2-3 (-8 differential)
Smithville 0-3, 0-8 - Still has to play Columbus and Gonzales - prediction 0-5
 
District 11
1. Bellville 2-0, 6-2 - Still has to play Madisonville and Shepherd - prediction 4-0
2. Shepherd 2-0, 6-1 - Still has to play Brookshire and Bellville - prediction 3-1
3. Tarkington 1-2, 3-5 - Still has to play Madisonville - prediction 2-2
4. Madisonville 1-1, 2-6 - Still has to play Bellville and Tarkington - prediction 1-3
Brookshire Royal 0-3, 1-6 - Still has to play Shepherd - prediction 0-4
 
District 12
1. West Orange-Stark 2-0, 8-0 - Still has to play Liberty and Orangefield - prediction 4-0
2. Hardin-Jefferson 1-1, 5-2 - Still has to play Orangefield and Hamshire-Fannett - prediction 3-1
3. Liberty 2-1, 8-1 - Still has to play West Orange-Stark - prediction 2-2
4. Orangefield 1-1, 4-4 - Still has to play Hardin-Jefferson and West Orange-Stark - prediction 1-3
Hamshire-Fannett 0-3, 0-8 - Still has to play Hardin-Jefferson - prediction 0-4
 
4A Region III D2 Playoff Predictions
Lorena-1 vs Gonzales-4
Tarkington-3 vs Hardin-Jefferson-2
Giddings-1 vs Salado-4
Shepherd-2 vs Liberty-3
Bellville-1 vs Orangefield-4
Caldwell-2 vs Connally-3
West Orange-Stark-1 vs Madisonville-4
Robinson-2 vs Columbus-3
 
 

Going back to the original post I believe I was actually one of the first ones on the board to point out that Liberty was getting some props across the state including from DCTF and as a WOS grad I would say please don't generalize and lump us all together. I congratulated you and am genuinely excited to see the Panthers doing well because it's honestly been a while.
I can understand where people are coming from on both sides.
I can't (well I actually could but I'm responding from my phone) count the number of times the WOS Staff and Team have had weeks where they face an undefeated or state ranked team and must remain focused on themselves, getting the job done and not listening to the chatter. More times than not they've won with some exceptions (Silsbee breaking the 30+ game district game winning streak 7 years ago is the most recent example that comes to mind.)
 People actually make fun of me because I always get worried when WOS is doing well mostly due to living through those games where we were huge favorites, got complacent or something else happened and didn't win. Paris 1988 State Finals, Ennis 2000 State Finals or games where we came SOOO close but then didn't (Yates 1985, La Marque more than once in the '90s) come to mind. WOS fans get used to the Mustangs winning. Unfortunately that translates into added stress on the kids and coaches because they want to live up to the standard and also not disappoint families and the community and it ALSO translates into a lot of the fans just expecting the same outcome yet again which can come across as arrogant or cocky.
Do I personally believe Liberty will beat WOS this year? No, but that doesn't mean it absolutely 100% couldn't happen. That's why the games are played on the field and not message boards.
I wish the best of injury-free luck to both and who knows... if all the latest rankings/polls/computers are correct we could meet up a 2nd time in the Quarterfinals. OR neither of us could.  We shall see!
 
 
 

Going back to the original post I believe I was actually one of the first ones on the board to point out that Liberty was getting some props across the state including from DCTF and as a WOS grad I would say please don't generalize and lump us all together. I congratulated you and am genuinely excited to see the Panthers doing well because it's honestly been a while.
I can understand where people are coming from on both sides.
I can't (well I actually could but I'm responding from my phone) count the number of times the WOS Staff and Team have had weeks where they face an undefeated or state ranked team and must remain focused on themselves, getting the job done and not listening to the chatter. More times than not they've won with some exceptions (Silsbee breaking the 30+ game district game winning streak 7 years ago is the most recent example that comes to mind.)
 People actually make fun of me because I always get worried when WOS is doing well mostly due to living through those games where we were huge favorites, got complacent or something else happened and didn't win. Paris 1988 State Finals, Ennis 2000 State Finals or games where we came SOOO close but then didn't (Yates 1985, La Marque more than once in the '90s) come to mind. WOS fans get used to the Mustangs winning. Unfortunately that translates into added stress on the kids and coaches because they want to live up to the standard and also not disappoint families and the community and it ALSO translates into a lot of the fans just expecting the same outcome yet again which can come across as arrogant or cocky.
Do I personally believe Liberty will beat WOS this year? No, but that doesn't mean it absolutely 100% couldn't happen. That's why the games are played on the field and not message boards.
I wish the best of injury-free luck to both and who knows... if all the latest rankings/polls/computers are correct we could meet up a 2nd time in the Quarterfinals. OR neither of us could.  We shall see!
 
 
 

The fact that the defending state champion West Orange-Stark Mustangs and the Liberty Panthers are in the same district and both ranked top 10 in the state of Texas now according to DCTF rankings for 4ADII. From what I have understood Dave Campbell's Texas Football magazine and rankings are a really respectable poll/magazine when it comes to Texas sports across the state, but there wasn't a lot of buzz on here about two SETX teams in the SAME district cracking that poll, and from what I'm seeing from past rankings its actually rare that ANY schools from SETX make it into DCTF's rankings, so I just thought this would be more of a topic of conversation since this is setxsports.com lol  ... and ill admit liberty is never this good so I wanna enjoy our time in the spotlight and have you all come on here and congratulate us on how good we are doin lmao nah not really but I do think this deserves some recognition.