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45 minutes ago, Coach_Izzy said:
Because I’ve been apart of it & understand what actually goes on. Y’all are discrediting these schools & coaches success and the programs they’ve built. Accusing them of cheating with no facts to back your statements.
Is it these schools fault that kids want to be apart of the success these programs have created? Are they supposed to shut the door on these kids? Is it the district’s fault that they value athletics & open their doors to anyone who wants to attend school there.
Tell all the districts who aren’t open enrollment to make their districts open enrollment & let’s see how many power 5 kids are knocking the doors down to attend school there like these other programs. No need to wine & complain about it…kids are transferring left & right at the HS and college level deal with it. Simple
I actually provided facts to back my statements but you didn't want to hear them. You are tone deaf. No one will convince you otherwise that your opinion is just biased based on personal feelings and experience.
Also, you seem to ignore that the original suggestions weren't to "close the door on them" but rather ask them to play up a level or two to make it more fair throughout the entire field of teams.
no. what you want is for them to stack teams every year and win state. then sit there and beat your chest that the coaches "built something"
You know who built something? Woodville. PNG. etc. That is building something.
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7 hours ago, CardinalBacker said:
Isn’t it funny… people who have a proven record of success are racist and don’t understand… but the guys who fail at everything are the ones who have it all figured out.
In your mind, anyways.
Losing a debate? Throw insults out to anyone spitting facts. Dig in and support your one sided opinion.
Losing even more? Call them racist.
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10 minutes ago, Coach_Izzy said:
My point is you DON’T KNOW why these kids transferred in & you have no clue if they were “recruited” you’re simply assuming. There are kids that transfer in and out of schools like SOC athletes & non-athletes. That don’t mean they were recruited to the school. Also you have no clue what challenges a family is facing to make them move from one school to SOC, Desoto, DV etc.
The Farrakhan kid moved from Grand Oaks to the Woodlands to NS…do you know the real why he left those schools? Or you just going to assume NS recruited him? Lol
You're doing the assuming. I do know some. Specifically the Quarterback at Argyle. He left Lake Dallas to become the Starter at Argyle. That isn't speculation. and once again.
I DO NOT CARE why they are doing it. I really don't. GOOD FOR THEM. They still need to move those schools who are benefiting to a higher classification. Otherwise they are gaining an unfair advantage on the field. That is a statement of fact. Transfer all you want to better your situation. Go for it. Don't do it at the expense of hard working teams all over the state who get pushed out by an SOC, or whatever because you stacked your team. but if you're honest about MOST situations, it isn't hard to figure out why they are moving. Perhaps those SOC coaches should have kept their mouths shut in the elevator at AT&T last year?
And that's just one example. I know of many first hand accounts because of some connections in Dallas. They boast about what they're doing.
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45 minutes ago, Coach_Izzy said:
You ain’t mentioned not one fact, you’re claiming SOC is cheating & recruiting with no facts to support it. Every kid that plays for SOC has been cleared by the respective committee to participate. You said parents aren’t moving their kids to SOC/DISD for educational purposes another opinion lol let that hurt go tell PNG to open up their enrollment if not keep dealing with losing to the inner city schools with open enrollment.
If you really want to see for yourself, go look at the roster for SOC last year, and then look at this year. Look at the kids and where they went to Middle School or Freshman year and then where they suddenly end up there Junior or Senior year.
You cannot for one second believe anyone would ever transfer to SOC for educational purposes- as stated a few times, it is literally ranked at the bottom of Texas schools for education. Transferring for athletic purposes is not permitted. It's not hard to understand but somehow you're making it extremely difficult.
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11 minutes ago, Coach_Izzy said:
Who are you to tell a parent what’s best for their kid? 🤣 Sound like you’re butt hurt SOC kicked PNG ass lol
At what point did I tell a parent what is best for their kid? I mean, I'm a parent myself but I don't see where I said anything of the sort. Your response tells me you're losing a debate because you're feelings are more important than facts so you're going to resort to throwing out insults. Butt hurt? No. I do care about people no matter where they are from. I'd be on here stating my same opinion if this happened to ANY school because PNG isn't the only team to run into this problem. As I recall, PNG still took care of business last year regardless and came close in '22 as well. You seem to have a hard time separating facts from feelings. It happens.
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3 hours ago, Coach_Izzy said:
Just a dumb statement…this past weekend I just attended my former player’s graduation (Shadrach Banks) who graduated from TCU. A kid who was homeless in HS & is the first person in his family to graduate. He used football as a way out…also there was a few other kids who attended NS that graduated this weekend as well. You have no clue what majority of kids are doing once they’re done playing football. Again y’all be so misinformed.
Stop complaining about open enrollment & tell the school district you root for to change their policies…
Again - as stated multiple times before - If they find a way out of bad situations.... GREAT. But there needs to be a rule to stop Coaches/Schools from stacking teams just to win State Championships. This debate isn't whether a kid should be able to play football somewhere. If you really think moving to Dallas South Oak Cliff is the best for your kid... uhh ok cool. SOC moves to 6A. Period. Coach Todd is stacking teams on an annual basis and the typical fan has to watch the same team play there 4 years in a row now. How fun is that? Now, if they were doing things correctly and making it there..... kudos. The point is, they aren't. The sport needs an overhaul. It's not an impressive feat to get kids from all over the state to play on one team for one goal. I'm happy those kids are playing in College. That is a wonderful thing.... but if you want to stack teams, play with the big boys. You'll still get seen. You don't have to win a state championship to get into college.
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5 hours ago, Coach_Izzy said:
No Coach Todd has built a program that kids want to play for! Look at Skyline before & after he left. Kids want to play for the best teams, it happens at every level.
Which is easy to do with open enrollment and the UIL allowing him to get away with recruiting. He isn’t building that type of program with actual SOC students and he never will. Same goes for any of these “dominant programs”
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1 hour ago, Coach_Izzy said:
Most of the kids we’re referring to wouldn’t attend college if they didn’t play their respective sport. So yes parents are going to prioritize athletics over education. Whether you agree or not there’s a difference in “culture” in these communities that you wouldn’t understand.
Furthermore do you really think with the success these teams have had that these coaches have to go out & recruit players? Lol Samples is an icon in the DFW parents want their kids to play for him. Same thing at NS, if you live remotely close to NS you wouldn’t send your kid there if he was a stud in football? This is common sense.
100% wrong.
the success is completely attributed to the recruiting. Especially at SOC.
SOC lost last year to PNG and one of their coaches in the elevator said verbatim “we will never win another one with this **** at QB. We gotta make a change.
here comes Reggie McNeal Jr.didn’t work out but he sure made a difference. Along with multiple other athletes who didn’t grow up in South Oak Cliff.
No. They grew up in Red Oak. Arlington. Forth Worth. Houston.
it’s a cheap way to win and then beat your chest that “you’re the best.”the best at skirting the rules.
sorry but I’m not impressed and I never will be. I’m impressed with PNG of 2023. woodville 2024.
and all other teams that did it without skirting the rules or cheating outright.Open enrollment is poison to High School football. Plain and simple.
THAT is common sense.
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1 hour ago, SmashMouth said:
Can those closed enrollment schools change to open enrollment schools?
I'm sure they could if they chose to but there are plenty of reasons not to. Whatever those reasons are, I don't know.
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AS mentioned before, the solution is very simple. If you have open enrollment, you will need to move up a classification. OR, they can create an entire division of Open enrollment schools to play. let them "recruit" against each other and they can do whatever they want and stay out of the way of Schools who continue to keep things closed and fair.
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2 minutes ago, AggiesAreWe said:
Contrary to what is being posted on here about "open" enrollment schools, those schools still have to abide by UIL policies when it comes to participation in UIL athletics. A student still has to establish residency in that school district and the PAPF from the school he/she transferred from has to be clean (i.e. box checked for not transferring for athletic purposes).
Open enrollment allows students to transfer in to attend, but it doesn't allow for students to transfer in for athletics. That's governed by the UIL. The DEC still has to approve those transfers to play varsity athletics.
You're missing the point. Look at SOC for example and their roster this year compared to last. You really think they all transferred to SOC for educational purposes? You think they moved there? The answer is no.
And the example I have about the Argyle QB - that is first hand knowledge. I have a close personal friend who knows everyone up there personally. He literally went to Argyle for Football.
If you don't think money is changing hands in these deals you are simply naive.
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3 hours ago, WOSdrummer99 said:
Louisiana solved that problem. Open districts go to a different playoff bracket. Let them compete against others that aren't homegrown talent. It may be complicated but that's above my pay grade. I only know how to read a map and divide divisions evenly. Something the UIL obviously struggles with.
Reminds me of a story I saw once. Before computers every MLB team schedule was determined by a husband and wife in NY. Just 2 people using common sense and process of elimination to schedule over 4000 games per season.
This is the correct answer. Recruiting using the excuse of open enrollment is creating an unfair advantage for certain schools, specifically those listed above. It's cheating without cheating because they're skirting the rules. They know it. The UIL should absolutely step in and create an open enrollment division or force each to play up to 6A.
Ultimately, these schools are robbing closed enrollment schools of potential trips to Rounds in the playoffs they may never see otherwise.
Not to mention the schools that lose out on talent that they could use. An example other than SOC is this...
The QB for Argyle was recruited from Lake Dallas. Lake Dallas had a very good team last year and that QB would have made a huge difference for them. Forward to this year, Lake Dallas moves down to 4A-D1 and end up going 5-5. He would have made a huge difference to them the last two years but instead he went to Argyle "for education?" - Sure.
Good for the kid I guess. He went to the Semis in 5A and got slammed by SOC who has an unreal amount of students on their roster who weren't there last year.
Imagine if LCM or BC recruited the guys out of WOS and went to State.
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9 hours ago, BleedBlackandGold said:
Decided to brave the weather and come out and support on Friday night! Really hoping there’s no rain 😬
According to Bostwick, weather will be temps in the 40's and dry
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23 minutes ago, BleedBlackandGold said:
No talk about PNG side selling out? I’m surprised they didn’t sell out last week’s game but I thought more would be coming to this round especially with it being SOC
The ability to watch on TV and youtube kind of killed that for the most part. We still have giant crowds, Last weeks total was about 10K according to the news article from Natchitoches. PNG filled up both lower parts of their side and every suite available was completely packed and sold out. Nothing to sneeze at for sure. I believe it was 5400PNG to 2900 Texas City for attendance if I'm remembering correctly. Not bad for a near 3 hour drive.
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We ran into a guy in Natchitoches in the hotel this past weekend. He stopped and asked “does that PNG on your shirt stand for Port Neches?”
we said yes it does and he ended up telling us he “hated our guts” lol and that he graduated from Port Arthur Lincoln.
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51 minutes ago, Mr. Buddy Garrity said:
PNG wearing grey in this matchup?? 👀
No. Those days are long gone.
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19 minutes ago, Mr. Buddy Garrity said:
Who has actually seen Kaufman? What do they do on each side of the ball?
From a kid I know who played against and beat Kaufman this season. His team finished 5-5 in 4A-D1.
Love a good jet sweep, they’ve got a helluva receiver #15 big man, qb does well under pressure. Defense has big linebackers, no pass rush at all, our qb had all day, gotta be able to run power pulling thre guards in the run game, pretty good against the deep ball.
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Back at ya
MCM- Nederland vs PNG
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Awesome game. Glad I went and stayed. The pitcher for Nederland is special. Hats off to that young man.