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21-5A predicted order of finish 1. Crosby 2. Dayton 3. New Caney 4. Kingwood Park 5. Humble 6. Barbers Hill 7. Porter 8. Splendora 9. Caney Creek

Per Ole Dave: Crosby - D2 regional champs over College Station. Preseason #11 in the state. Nobody else from SETX ranked in top 40.

Please don't. Other than Vidor there's no group of fans I love to rib more than PNG. The more you troll me the more I'll be able to respond and not have it seen as going out of my way to talk down on a squad. It will be especially fun this year because I know PNG has no chance to do anything significant outside of beating 4A Silsbee or finishing in 4th place and getting back-stroked by Crosby in bi-district. Keep the faith though Stat, we lose in the second round and I still do.

It doesn't even matter Cal. Last SETX team Crosby lost to was Nederland in 2012 and it will be more of the same this year. Everybody has something to say until they get hit in the mouth, then the conversation switches to "Well, they didn't blow us out" or "We played 'em tough". Like Red Dawn said, "We just play them when they show up." . . . . and stack up W's

Did you think you were the favorite??? Y'all finished 3rd or 4th three years in a row now, that's not a farfetched prediction.

He's a o-lineman that will play center for us next year. The Oliver boys' transfer situation taught me not to count him until he's on the field against Manvel though.

1. North Shore 2. Atascocita 3. Kingwood 4. CE King/Summer Creek 5. Summer Creek/CE King 6. Channelview 7. Sterling 8. GCM SC has been making progress at the 6A level and I think King might have enough athletes to sneak in. They have another Brantley and Williams combo coming through the system, they're probably still a year away but more odd things have happened.

I think Crosby would win because we're better in the offensive backfield right now. It would be a tough game because we wouldn't be able to dominate the lines of scrimmage like we can against most teams and they would be able to stay with our receivers. PAM just hired a Crosby coach on their staff so they would probably be pretty prepared for what we would throw at them, we would put the more refined product on the field though hence my prediction. What people around here don't understand is that coaching effectiveness becomes limited when the athletes on the other side of the ball are so good you can't execute the gameplan you installed.

The year before we beat Angleton 38-15 in their own house and we were one game away from a rematch in the regional final, they just don't matchup well with us. Angleton chose to run the ball where Crosby chose to throw it in our matchups, still doesn't change the fact that you better have Aaron Sharp, the Simmons and Snell boys, the Hutchins boys, Trey Williams or a mass of talent like Ridge Point if you want to have a legitimate shot at winning. Elite just hasn't gotten us a title, it has gotten us a regional crown, district championships, 40+ ncaa signees and a statewide reputation though.

Crosby put 56 on Ned, then put 49 on PNG later that year. I believe Dayton put 55 on y'all last year, then 41 on PNG later. Before that Dayton put 41 on Ned and 56 on PNG later that year. So 6 of the last 8 times Crosby/Dayton have played PNG/Ned we've dropped 40 or 50+, makes my initial statement "Think about it, Dayton and Crosby drop 40-50 on Ned and PNG on the regular just because of the athletic advantage." pretty factual in my definition.

I think KP will finish second in district with Dayton and Humble being 3rd and 4th. KP is huge on the o-line and Maple had them executing well on the lower levels of the program, they were just inconsistent last year. Should be better than a couple of years ago when they beat Ned though. I think Dayton will have a rough go of it this year, will probably still make the playoffs though. I just think Nations not calling a play or working game situations in five years will show early on, depending on the district strength it's possible they wouldn't recover but I believe they'll find their way in.

I watched y'all play Dayton and Angleton last year, I probably have a better idea than you do actually. I said we have elite athletes, which we do. I think Craig Williams running the 2nd fastest electronic 40 in the state this year(4.36) and Netherly finishing as the runner-up at state in the 400m proves that. We probably have close to 50 FBS combined offers to kids on the roster to go with that. The team you lost to in the second round we beat 34-0, we won because they literally couldn't move the ball due to us being the more physical squad. The team we lost to had 2,348 kids and probably 10 total D1's. PNG lost because they were comparatively small and slow when put on the field with Angleton. Angleton also has about 2000 kids which is less than PAM has meaning they'll have even better athletes. When you look at Crosby's 5 losses the last three years you see SC, King, Elgin, Cedar Park and Ridge Point. That's what it's going to take to beat PAM IMO, you just have no idea of the talent gap between PAM and PNG but you'll find out.

Yeah, but it's the type of team that will have bigger and better players than every other district team at almost every position except Central. That graphic you posted will also be the inverse this time, PNG and Ned use to have larger enrollments than the PA schools, now PAM drops down with the enrollment advantage. I already said I think they'll have an off night or two if they play down to the competition but in general I don't see them having much trouble in district. Think about it, Dayton and Crosby drop 40-50 on Ned and PNG on the regular just because of the athletic advantage. PAM is probably bigger and faster than both.

Not really, but he already explained they don't have a real writer for the area. If Gabe wrote for the area I probably wouldn't agree with him either though. I do think PAM being towards the cellar is egregious but I don't think there any other glaring inaccuracy in the prediction.

There's still a lot of space for a cover-up to be incorporated into a half sleeve which is what it looks like he was going for anyway. As far as tattoos go, it would probably be one of the easier covers an artist had to do during his career, no big deal.

Well, that's pretty much what they ran all last year anyway. . . . Doesn't really matter what Dayton runs, we all know what 4 plays are coming; Jet sweep, bubble screen, quick slant from the slot and the fake slant with a wheel or go route. Only difference this go 'round for Nations is that Green and Dugat won't be running it.

I think Tepper would respond similarly, I just think you would also be able to pick up a hint of arrogance in his tone though.

I think Ned and Central are the only teams in the district that will be able to play with PAM. Ned due to coaching and Central due to athletes. I think the majority of what schools like PNG and Lumberton will put on the field wouldn't even make varsity at PAM. I'm not saying the "any given night" theory doesn't hold water but IMO PAM will be a lot like Crosby at the 5A level where if you don't have elite athletes on the other side of the ball you're probably not going to win.

You do a great job with what you have to work with. I've told the people on the site for the last three years that FNF has taken over as the premier THSF magazine in the state. DC's will always be the flagship/bell cow but degenerates like me know where to get the most accurate version of what we're in search of.

The more realistic question is "Who's getting second?". PAM will probably have the best 5A athletes in the coverage area but I think Crosby will have the best collection of football players, if that makes sense? We only won one game by a TD or less during the regular season last year and once we start district play I think that's how it will go again this year. This should be the most athletic team we've put on the field since '09, so once again this year anything of a D2 regional title is probably considered underwhelming.

Man, if that news is true Texas could have 4 first rounders on the o-line at one time. Williams and Delance at the tackles, Hudson and Vahe at the guards. I really don't think Texas wanted Kam after Kyle Porter's commitment, plus he was kind of a headache to UT during the process. IDK how much run Kam would've really gotten anyway, Warren and Foreman will get bulk of the carries and there's still Tristan Houston and Kirk Johnson behind those two. As far as running backs I think UT's only concern is getting JK Dobbins signature.

They've been in the district with us the last two years, I know they won't make the playoffs and so does everyone else on this board. Still doesn't change the fact that they have 2,068 kids and would be a D1 representative over FB Elkins if something odd happened in district play. Just like I know Splendora won't make the playoffs in 21-5A but I include them as someone who could push Crosby D1 simply because their enrollment says they can. If I said Manvel and Elkins would be the reps. for sure it would be a false statement at this point.

So you're saying you wouldn't underestimate someone in 21-5A getting another bi-district layup? Or you saying you expect 22-5A to be weaker so he'll be able to produce the same results? I think Baytown Lee will be a little better this year and that Babin could struggle to get to 3 district wins, maybe I'm giving the district too much credit though.

I believe Manvel still has over 2000 kids or are right at it even with Shadow Creek opening at 1800+. Elkins also has over 2000 kids so unless Galena Park makes the playoffs Manvel and Elkins are the D1 teams. I think they signed 13 D1's last year, 11 or 12 FBS kids alone. By 2017 Manvel will most likely be playing over the 5A limit again like George Ranch and Ridge Point were able to do the past couple of years. The drop won't cause them to be any weaker comparable to the classification, after Crosby they're still playing North Shore and Pearland in non-district. So the 13 D1's they had to have that success on the 6A level will only need to be about 4 or 5 on the 5A level which they have covered easily. IMO they're still going to be the most talented 5A team in the state.

Babin is a realist, he knows he caught lightning in a bottle last year. He knows what he's working with in Lumberton and that it'll probably take twice the coaching job as last year to produce the same results.