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The fact that this is even a thread leads me to believe that Huffman (or any school that feels remotely similar to this) will never have any real success in football. "who supports or do not support High School football during Thanksgiving break?".. Get out the flags Huffman. You're officially playing intramural football over there.

I just can't see myself thinking that Yoe loses. Until I'm given a reason not to I'm going with Yoe.

I want to change my #2 game to Strake Jesuit. Gut feeling.

1. Galena Park North Shore 2. Beaumont West Brook 3. Georgetown 4. Huntsville 5. Marshall 6. A&M Consolidated 7. Port Neches-Groves 8. Henderson 9. Carthage 10. West Orange-Stark 11. Silsbee 12. Giddings 13. Jasper 14. West 15. Cameron Yoe 16. Grandview 17. Franklin 18. Newton 19. Winona 20. San Augustine 21. Clarksville 22. Grapeland 23. Muenster 24. Shiner St. Paul 25. Van

Yeah, they actually played Buna really close.. (down to the last few minutes I think) and then beat KV but lost their QB somewhere in there. They only beat Warren after that out of their last 5 games. Apparently, the kid made quite a difference. My point is that I don't think they'll stay down, in this district, based on recent history. Started the year off pretty decent with a win over Shepherd and a tough loss to Buna so I think they would've been in the playoff picture if not for that injury. But.. that's part of the game.

Well.. I've been saying the whole latter half of this season that I was wrong about Hardin. Mostly wrong about how bad KV, OF, and Ana would be this year. I have a hard time seeing that happening again. Next year will tell a better story I think.

You are fun to debate. 1. What are you basing their "last year in 3AD1 for quite a while" statement on? I was actually told that Hardin has some pretty big classes in the younger grades. Like..abnormally big for typical Hardin #s. Maybe they don't.. I was just wondering if you are speculating. Even if they would've been D2 this year it would have been a somewhat similar ending. Take NW out of their preseason schedule and replace with Warren. Yeah it would've been a better first round game but Hemphill, AS, and Corrigan aren't bad..obviously, Newton steamrolls everybody. Hardin would've battled for the 3/4 spot if in that district. Only to play Waskom, Daingerfield, or Elysian Fields in round 1. Lol. Of course, now I'm speculating. Next year will tell us a lot when that Hardin RB graduates. 2. Hardin volleyball is very good.. for the area. Just like football for much of SeTx.. round 3 seems to be the Achilles heel for even the girl's powerhouse that is Hardin Volleyball.

Just realized I didn't pick the Joaquin/West Sabine game. I'll take Joaquin.

It'll probably be up to Franklin.

Will they score in the first half?

1. Atascocita 2. Galena Park North Shore 3. Beaumont West Brook 4. New Caney 5. Angleton 6. Alvin Shadow Creek 7. Port Arthur Memorial 8. Marshall 9. Huntsville 10. A&M Consolidated 11. Nederland 12. Port Neches-Groves 13. Lindale 14. Navasota 15. Splendora 16. Liberty 17. Jasper 18. Silsbee 19. Newton 20. Joaquin/West Sabine 21. San Augustine 22. Mart 23. Grapeland 24. Milford 25. Garrison

One could say that..that's quite a bit in there way. Even if down.. West won't be a pushover and Yoe..well..Yoe is still Yoe.

I’m pretty sure that the person claiming Allen is so good because of their large enrollment...yet can’t explain why no other schools with large enrollments are winning state titles...is the person who has lost the debate. Real quick.. why isn’t Allen consistently winning state championships in the other school sports? Since they have 7700 kids (alleged by a person who lives in Allen but may or may not know anything about the school). Anyway. Shouldn’t they be winning championships in every sport?

60% is pretty solid all things considered. That'll improve as well. And yeah gaining some muscle weight and foot speed will turn him into a high, high-level draft pick one day. The transformation will be something to behold over the next few years.

Lampkin will be pretty extraordinary when he sheds some of that youthful fat and becomes more muscular and athletic. Already loaded with potential. How is he from the line?

And yet you can't explain why the school with the largest enrollment doesn't win the state championship in every sport, every year.

That's a stupid comment and you know that's not what I meant. According to the UIL enrollment numbers.. Allen has the largest enrollment with 6600. There are 3 other schools in the district with over 5000 kids. Including the last place team in the district which is 0-6. The team in the district that is tied for 2nd place (Prosper) has less than 3000 kids. That alone makes your argument irrelevant. Of course a school with several thousand compared to a school with several hundred makes a huge different in football but when you're talking about every school in a class with roughly 3000+.. it's pretty much all the same at that point. Other factors come into play.

What was their enrollment back when they won 4 titles in a row? I promise you it wasn't what you're hearing that it is now..

Transfers

1. Port Neches-Groves 2. Lumberton 3. San Augustine 4. Deer Park 5. New Caney 6. Port Arthur Memorial 7. Barbers Hill 8. Baytown Lee 9. Vidor 10. Splendora 11. Huffman Hargrave 12. Coldspring-Oakhurst 13. Shepherd 14. Jasper 15. Liberty 16. West Orange-Stark 17. Franklin 18. Buna 19. Woodville 20. Orangefield 21. East Chambers 22. Newton 23. Groveton 24. Lovelady 25. Beaumont Legacy Christian

I misread about high schools.. that's why I said Bama. High schools in Texas? Allen, Lake Travis, Westlake, Katy, Brock. Any of those would be fine.

That's what needs to happen every year..in every town.. in every sport. I've always said that the people that coach youth sports should meet with the varsity head coach before the season begins to at least go over what basic skills should be drilled during a practice. Even if at least one time a week. Would also be a good time to maybe discuss drills that the youth coach probably won't know about. To me, youth sports should be a mini-camp of sorts. Literally where the game should be learned. Instead of the trash that it's turned into these days. It seems to me that youth sports is turning into a factory of learning bad habits.. that can't be undone by the time they get to school ball.

What else do I need to debate with? There are schools all over the state with enrollments MUCH larger than other schools they play yet they aren't successful. You can't make a statement like "Maybe having nearly 8000 students and facing smaller opponents every single time had something to do with it?" and not expect a rebuttal. You literally implied that their success is in part to do with their large enrollment. You're making three different arguments here.

By that logic..every single district in the state should be won by the team with the most students. Right? In fact.. Allen has the largest enrollment at 6664 and Plano West has the second largest enrollment at 5654. Explain to me how Allen is 6-0 and Plano West is 0-6.

I think that it should be played at AT&T because that is the best option..as far as the nicest venue. I think it should be about the experience for the kids and not so much about the convenience for the fans. Plus.. as you said..if home-field advantage really made that much of a difference how did Allen go undefeated without playing a single home game and how have teams been winning state championships every single year whether they had to farthest drive or not? I think the kids should play in the best stadium no matter where it is. I can usually be open-minded but won't have my mind changed on that.