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that's the whole point of my post. i'm not saying that vidor had a team full of superstars, but in any district, the list of superstars is pretty short. it's clear with this many players being honored, above average was surely, in many cases at least, good enough to get recognition. if that's the case, every team could have at least 5 or 6 guys being named (and obviously some could have 15). in all honesty, i'd be ok with vidor only getting two reps if the all-district teams were smaller and more indicative of the top talent in the district. there's no doubt that just about every player named is a solid and talented player, but in a district where solid players are a dime a dozen on the better teams, you need to raise the bar when giving out awards.

you disagree with the whole post or just the vidor comment? as for that, it's just absurd to me that one team has their entire team elected, and another has just 2 players. in all fairness, if this district didn't pick 100 players, i wouldn't have a problem with vidor only being represented twice. if this were an elite honor, then the top two players off of the last place team would seem fair. but as it is, there are so many players that the 1st and 2nd place team had basically their whole team selected! pretty much every player that played on a top 5 team who had any type of decent stats at all was mentioned. i find it hard to believe that there wasn't another player anywhere on vidor who didn't have the stats required to get named. lumberton and dayton had about the same number of players left off their teams that vidor had chosen. it's an example of saying "vidor was the worst team in the district, so you have to be extremely good to get a nod, but lumberton and dayton were great teams, so anyone who had a solid season for them is in." I'm not knocking lumberton or dayton. they had great years, and have great players. I'm really only knocking the system of which those two teams were beneficiaries, making it necessary to use them as examples.

fairness is certainly the issue. i'd rather see a couple of uneducated novices go out and do their best reffing a game than to see an experienced official call a biased game. i think your idea of having a head official watch the game is a good one, too. it will cost some extra dough, but it will work to ensure that these games are called fairly and accurately. of course, it would be important that the head official not be from the same place as the game officials.

i'm not gonna say it's a must-win. everyone is going to lose to ozen, so that's not a big deal to have that loss on their record. i'm gonna say it's a should-win though. i think lcm is the better team, and will be very dissapointed if they lose to dayton.

i can remember when making all-district was still an honor. 69 players on the first two teams, and this not counting the mvps. God knows how many honorable mentions there are, but i bet there's more than there are on either the first or second team, which means you're looking at probably 100 or more kids making all-district. if you figure this 11 starters x 2= 22 starters per team. 22 starters per team x 8 teams= 176 starters. I'm also not going to try to figure in the dozens of two-way players in the district. well over half the starters in the district made all-district. You could be an honorable mention team running back and be the 8th or 9th best back in the district. maybe they should change the name to "all the district". on top of this, there was an unfairly large amount of lumberton and dayton players on these teams. i agree with the fact that they went the farthest, and were two very good teams, and should thus be represented as such. however, putting their whole teams on all-district is kind of silly. Vidor only had two picks, which is a travesty. i'm no vidor fan, and in fact did not at all watch that team at all this year, and i can still say with certainty there were more than two players deserving of all-district recognition on vidor's football squad. to me, districts need to cut down on their all-district honors. this isn't little league, or little dribblers, where everyone needs a trophy. Bring the honor back to all-district honors! Cut the teams down so they actually mean something!

maybe because you're the type of person who WOULD ask. the only posts i've ever seen you make on here were talking about how good you were, or were seeking praise for yourself. if you take that attitude onto the field, i can imagine why other coaches wouldn't be too high on you.

i think i will, actually.

it's really hard to ask highschoolers to stay focused and fight through it when they're getting blatantly cheated. i was a pretty levelheaded player in my day, but at the age of 16 it was pretty difficult for me to get my head back in a game where i felt like i was being cheated. that's kind of an x-factor in this debate. one can argue that a player should be able to overcome a bad ref, but at this age, all the kids have to play for is their love of the game and school pride. a bad call is to be expected once in awhile, but a poorly-called game is a disservice to young men who are fighting their hearts out to win a game for their school. if you're getting frustrating all night by the refs, it's going to lead to turnovers, missed freethrows (if you can get a call), and missed shots. this is true in college and the pros, but especially in HS basketball where these players are still just kids.

i agree that no matter what the refs do, there are things you could've or could've not done to improve your chances... but refs can cost you a game. say they are calling cheap fouls and keep your best player out of the game for most of the 1st half and then foul him out early in the second. or call 20 more fouls on one team than the other, leading to 15 extra points from the freethrow line for one team who should not have gotten them. there are things that refs can do that affect the entire game, and sometimes so much so that no matter what you could've done better, they cost you the chance to win.

HJ 82 WOS 50

sounds like ya'll did pretty well, especially considering who all was gone...

i've been away, and just got to see the result of this game... no shame in a loss this deep into the playoffs. congrats on a great season.

and it looks like HJ has no non-district schedule.

Amen! I don't see the point of going back and drudging up dirt on people who were using steroids several years ago. Many players did, and were kind of even expected to, and nobody enforced any steroid-related rules then. I think it's great that MLB is taking steps to eliminate steroids now, but i don't see what will be gained by this modern-day "Mitch" hunt. You shouldn't go back and punish players for what they've allegedly done in the past. In most cases, there's little or no physical proof anyway. And as for the astros signing tejeda... who cares? Maybe if they signed him the day after the report came out, but not several days before. Should they be ashamed of all of the hundreds of players in their system through the years that have used steroids? For a long time they were a generally accepted part of the game. Now that they aren't, show me a current positive drug test, and i'll show you grounds for a suspension.

that's a pretty damn impressive start. i'd love to see them go deep in the playoffs.

i went last year at HJ and it was pretty insane. packed to capacity and it felt like it was about 110 degrees inside. it's a hell of an atmosphere if you can get a seat.

i think HJ is obviously the better team, but silsbee's athletic, and they've got a good season going for them so far. Also, they have a lot of motivation to beat HJ. I'm not saying that Silsbee is in the same class as HJ in talent, but they're the best team HJ will face in district, and they're also going to play harder than anyone else when they play HJ. All i was really stating is that silsbee is the one team that might actually give HJ a competitive game come district.

what's HJ's record now?

i tried to answer the poll question, but i couldn't decide if i wanted to put that they were YES a threat, or NO, not a joke.

they better be careful... BYU is no Louisiana College

HJ is an obvious answer, but after donahoe left a lot of people didn't really think they'd do all that great this year, and they're proving people wrong. spurger has also really impressed me, as well as lcm.

yeah, it's to be expected though... you have to figure in a couple of things... 1) HJ is the defending state champs 2) they just beat the #1 team in the state 3) they haven't lost yet 4) the silsbee/hj rivalry is one of the best in the area in any sport, and is good for several threads by itself 5) HJ isn't good at that many things, so they gotta get all the mileage they can out of basketball (i'm an HJ alum, and reserve the right to say that) 6) HJ basketball has a tremendous fan base who is pretty active on here I took no offense to this thread because HJ is the undisputed champion of the SETXsports HS Basketball forum.

i'm with you. the smack talk doesn't bother me, but the ignorant, repetitive, and disrespectful smack talk does get a little old. some of the stuff people think up on here amazes me. i don't always say what people want to hear, but i at least back it up with stats or first hand accounts, and i make sure that the two brain cells that i have are working in conjunction with each other rather than independantly.

good offensive trade... the pitching won't have to be that good if this division is anything like last year. good luck stros!

i wasn't sure how HJ would handle losing donahoe, but i've been to a couple of games and like what i see. i like HJ's chances to go undefeated until playoffs... there are only a few teams in the area capable of handing HJ a loss, and silsbee is the only team left on their schedule who could do so. Now i'm not saying that nobody else can beat HJ, but i'm talking about teams with a legit chance to compete and win without it being some crazy fluke. District should be a cakewalk with the exception of Silsbee, but i don't think there's any way that HJ will underestimate the tigers. They'll be prepared for those games, and i still believe they're the better team. As for most of the rest of the district, HJ can show up and expect to win, and probably will. The real question will be whether or not they can get mentally ready for the playoffs if they do manage to go all year without losing.