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Sweet! Congrats, DC!

[quote name="Dick Vitale" post="1228860" timestamp="1338946063"] Like I said...CASE CLOSED...They sat, played JV, now they are CLEAR...No questions asked...OHHHHH, but MY question was never answered about Hardin Jefferson. HAVE THEY HAD A PLAYER IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS TRANSFER INTO THEIR SCHOOL FOR ATHLETIC PURPOSES? I know the answer to that one, just want to make sure a certain poster understands the definition of "transferring for athletic purposes".... ::) [/quote] According to the District 21-3A executive committee, no they have not. Moreover, Beaumont ISD Athletic Director Rodney Saveat (I think you may remember him), as well as either the head basketball coach or the principal at Central, attested that the transfer student was not for athletic purposes.  Or are you going to call officials for your former employer liars?

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A little more on Coach Williamson.  He is a Tarleton State graduate.  He comes over from Gustine (6 man, Division II) where he was head coach AD for 2 years.  While there, he amassed a 14-9 mark and lead the Tigers to the UIL 6man Division II playoffs both years he was coach there. Welcome to Southeast Texas, Coach!

[quote name="Dick Vitale" post="1228829" timestamp="1338937863"] [quote author=WOSgrad link=topic=100336.msg1228827#msg1228827 date=1338937654] [quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=100336.msg1228826#msg1228826 date=1338937403] That WAS the ruling of the DEC.  They could not stop the transfer, and it was concluded that the transfers were NOT exclusively for athletc purposes. HOWEVER they were made to sit (play JV) due to the residency establishment rule. They did that. Its over. End of discussion. Kids are eligible to play varsity next season. No questions asked. [/quote] So, the DEC, by your own words did rule that their move was due to athletic reason, albeit not exclusively. Sorry, but your responses are creating many more questions than answers. [/quote] Stop trying to put me on the witness stand here...I SAID IT WAS RULED THAT NO ONE HAS TRANSFERRED TO YATES FOR ATHLETIC PURPOSES. They sat to fulfill the residency requirement for HISD ATHLETICS. [/quote] No, you said exclusively for athletic purposes.  Although that is sort of like being pregnant, either you are or you aren't.  So in other words, at the very least, these boys who had to sit out were attending some other HISD school before their love for the communications field prompted them to be drawn to Yates, which happens to be out of the HISD school they are zoned for. Mmmmm, hhhhmmmm.

[quote name="Dick Vitale" post="1228826" timestamp="1338937403"] That WAS the ruling of the DEC.  They could not stop the transfer, and it was concluded that the transfers were NOT exclusively for athletc purposes. HOWEVER they were made to sit (play JV) due to the residency establishment rule. They did that. Its over. End of discussion. Kids are eligible to play varsity next season. No questions asked. [/quote] So, the DEC, by your own words did rule that their move was due to athletic reason, albeit not exclusively. Sorry, but your responses are creating many more questions than answers.

[quote name="Dick Vitale" post="1228820" timestamp="1338936144"] [quote author=WOSgrad link=topic=100336.msg1228796#msg1228796 date=1338930969] [quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=100336.msg1228780#msg1228780 date=1338928574] [quote author=WOSgrad link=topic=100336.msg1228776#msg1228776 date=1338928243] [quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=100336.msg1228775#msg1228775 date=1338928108] [quote author=WOSgrad link=topic=100336.msg1228772#msg1228772 date=1338927881] [quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=100336.msg1228769#msg1228769 date=1338927624] [quote author=WOSgrad link=topic=100336.msg1228768#msg1228768 date=1338927520] [quote author=Stevenash link=topic=100336.msg1228767#msg1228767 date=1338927099] [quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=100336.msg1228761#msg1228761 date=1338926799] Apparently, they were deemed eligible after sitting out from varsity competition for one calendar year. They sat out while playing junior varsity. NOW they are eligible without question. No further discussion needed. [/quote] TRANSLATION- They are NOT homegrown but I have to find ways to say it so it doesnt look like I said something that was not true. [/quote] And I will ask you, Mr. Nash, as you have [b]verifiable[/b] close ties to the coaching staff at Hardin-Jefferson, how many years did the young man who came in from Beaumont have to sit out before playing varsity for the Hawks? [/quote] He didn't...pays to have "connections" within the cozy confines of the UIL. ::) [/quote] And what connections are those? [/quote] They know who I am referring to..You have to be "connected" to even know about it.... ;) WOS, I know the Yates kids were under a LOT of scrutiny, and the ones that transferred to Yates were inspected with a fine tooth comb...They were made to play JV in order to eliminate any thought of wrong doing. They have done so..Ironically they had ZERO transfers during the 2011-12 school year..Not one...Let some posters tell it, they have them EVERY YEAR..This is a fallacy. [/quote] No, I don't know. Enlighten me. By the way, I still have heard from you what provision of Chapter 440 did the players that had to "sit out" did not meet. [/quote] It was the established one year residence requirement, from what I understand.  The two kids in question now live in the Yates (HISD) attendance zone, but had to establish residency there for one calendar year. They have now satisfied it. Done. [/quote] Now, according to Chapter 440, a kid would be ineligible for varsity activities for a year is if:  1) they attended a school which wasn't in the attendance zone in their parents reside, 2) they transferred from a school in a district where there is no zoning amongst the multiple schools and the young man (or woman) has transferred from one school to another or 3) were deemed to have transferred for athletic purposes. [Hidden Content] Now, instance No. 2 does not apply to HISD as their schools do have defined attendance zones, according to their policy: [Hidden Content] And in fact, here is the HISD map for Jack Yates High: [Hidden Content] So my question is:  Did those that have to sit out have parents who live outside of the attendance zone of Yates or were the young men deemed by their district's executive committee to have transferred for athletic purposes? [/quote] While you are pulling out the rules don't forget the one that says: If a student attends a school that has a MAGNET PROGRAM that is not offered at his or her zoned school, the student may attend that school at the request of the parents and approval of the receiving school. [/quote][quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=100336.msg1228820#msg1228820 date=1338936144] [quote author=WOSgrad link=topic=100336.msg1228796#msg1228796 date=1338930969] [quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=100336.msg1228780#msg1228780 date=1338928574] [quote author=WOSgrad link=topic=100336.msg1228776#msg1228776 date=1338928243] [quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=100336.msg1228775#msg1228775 date=1338928108] [quote author=WOSgrad link=topic=100336.msg1228772#msg1228772 date=1338927881] [quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=100336.msg1228769#msg1228769 date=1338927624] [quote author=WOSgrad link=topic=100336.msg1228768#msg1228768 date=1338927520] [quote author=Stevenash link=topic=100336.msg1228767#msg1228767 date=1338927099] [quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=100336.msg1228761#msg1228761 date=1338926799] Apparently, they were deemed eligible after sitting out from varsity competition for one calendar year. They sat out while playing junior varsity. NOW they are eligible without question. No further discussion needed. [/quote] TRANSLATION- They are NOT homegrown but I have to find ways to say it so it doesnt look like I said something that was not true. [/quote] And I will ask you, Mr. Nash, as you have [b]verifiable[/b] close ties to the coaching staff at Hardin-Jefferson, how many years did the young man who came in from Beaumont have to sit out before playing varsity for the Hawks? [/quote] He didn't...pays to have "connections" within the cozy confines of the UIL. ::) [/quote] And what connections are those? [/quote] They know who I am referring to..You have to be "connected" to even know about it.... ;) WOS, I know the Yates kids were under a LOT of scrutiny, and the ones that transferred to Yates were inspected with a fine tooth comb...They were made to play JV in order to eliminate any thought of wrong doing. They have done so..Ironically they had ZERO transfers during the 2011-12 school year..Not one...Let some posters tell it, they have them EVERY YEAR..This is a fallacy. [/quote] No, I don't know. Enlighten me. By the way, I still have heard from you what provision of Chapter 440 did the players that had to "sit out" did not meet. [/quote] It was the established one year residence requirement, from what I understand.  The two kids in question now live in the Yates (HISD) attendance zone, but had to establish residency there for one calendar year. They have now satisfied it. Done. [/quote] Now, according to Chapter 440, a kid would be ineligible for varsity activities for a year is if:  1) they attended a school which wasn't in the attendance zone in their parents reside, 2) they transferred from a school in a district where there is no zoning amongst the multiple schools and the young man (or woman) has transferred from one school to another or 3) were deemed to have transferred for athletic purposes. [Hidden Content] Now, instance No. 2 does not apply to HISD as their schools do have defined attendance zones, according to their policy: [Hidden Content] And in fact, here is the HISD map for Jack Yates High: [Hidden Content] So my question is:  Did those that have to sit out have parents who live outside of the attendance zone of Yates or were the young men deemed by their district's executive committee to have transferred for athletic purposes? [/quote] While you are pulling out the rules don't forget the one that says: If a student attends a school that has a MAGNET PROGRAM that is not offered at his or her zoned school, the student may attend that school at the request of the parents and approval of the receiving school. [/quote] Actually, it says that it requires the approval of both principal as well as the HISD superintendent.  But then again, if such a transfer was made and approved by the person who is essentially the boss of all of them, then, if their eligibility would have been submitted to the DEC, they would most certainly have been cleared to play varsity.  Which to me makes it appear that those who transferred do consider Yates a magnet school, but not for the field in which it is certified and that fact is apparent to the Lions' district mates. Of course, all of that is still moot because Chapter 440 makes no mention of magnet schools. So again, my question, is the reason these guys had to sit because 1) their parents live outside of the Yates attendance zone or 2) that they were deemed to have moved for athletic purposes by the district DEC?

[quote name="Ty Cobb" post="1228812" timestamp="1338933061"] He makes a few good points but I can't believe that he lives in TEXAS and is brave enough to write this column.  I'm willing to bet every coach would love to "coach" only and leave the classroom to "real" teachers but that's not the case.  Coaches coach, coaches teach, and coaches are the first ones that teachers like this guy call when they need help with discipline or other problems that happen at school.  [/quote] I am quite sure that there are some coaches who do wish that Mr. Dickerson's idea of teaching utopia were installed in Texas schools.  But the reason that I earlier called his words the "rantings of a bitter man" was his painting all coaches with a broad brush and basically saying that a coach is physically not capable of social studies, or any subject for that matter.  Or even worse, that a coach has no care about the subject that they are teaching outside of their coaching duties.  In my time both growing up and doing work for this board, I have come into contact with many coaches (in fact I would say the vast majority) who take their teaching assignments very seriously and do not just view them as a way of passing the hours until it is time to hit the field and, moreover, were more than qualified and capable of teaching the subjects which they were assigned.  His gross generalization exposes his bitterness. Second, Mr. Dickerson fails to realize that the questions that he is asked is not for emphasis of football over academics.  It is strictly a question of economics.  Thus by using the words he does, it is obvious that he has no clue as to budgetary constraints that many a district, from large to small, face these days. If I am D.W. Rutledge and I see this article I am hitting the roof, calling the newspaper and demanding my chance to reply in writing.

[quote name="biaplayer" post="1228790" timestamp="1338929904"] Hold on what happened with miller and nelson, thought they were gonna play?? Wth???? How come memorials qB and runningback aren't playing either. Man coach mathews would have had an arsenal of weapons had these manchillds had played? Any input??????? [/quote] Nelson was originally named to the squad, but opted not to play.  I think Singleton and the RB made it clear that they were not going to play before the team was even named. Miller, I don't know, but I imagine he opted out after agreeing to play.

It will be a lot of fun!

Just sounds like the rantings of a bitter man.

[quote name="Dick Vitale" post="1228780" timestamp="1338928574"] [quote author=WOSgrad link=topic=100336.msg1228776#msg1228776 date=1338928243] [quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=100336.msg1228775#msg1228775 date=1338928108] [quote author=WOSgrad link=topic=100336.msg1228772#msg1228772 date=1338927881] [quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=100336.msg1228769#msg1228769 date=1338927624] [quote author=WOSgrad link=topic=100336.msg1228768#msg1228768 date=1338927520] [quote author=Stevenash link=topic=100336.msg1228767#msg1228767 date=1338927099] [quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=100336.msg1228761#msg1228761 date=1338926799] Apparently, they were deemed eligible after sitting out from varsity competition for one calendar year. They sat out while playing junior varsity. NOW they are eligible without question. No further discussion needed. [/quote] TRANSLATION- They are NOT homegrown but I have to find ways to say it so it doesnt look like I said something that was not true. [/quote] And I will ask you, Mr. Nash, as you have [b]verifiable[/b] close ties to the coaching staff at Hardin-Jefferson, how many years did the young man who came in from Beaumont have to sit out before playing varsity for the Hawks? [/quote] He didn't...pays to have "connections" within the cozy confines of the UIL. ::) [/quote] And what connections are those? [/quote] They know who I am referring to..You have to be "connected" to even know about it.... ;) WOS, I know the Yates kids were under a LOT of scrutiny, and the ones that transferred to Yates were inspected with a fine tooth comb...They were made to play JV in order to eliminate any thought of wrong doing. They have done so..Ironically they had ZERO transfers during the 2011-12 school year..Not one...Let some posters tell it, they have them EVERY YEAR..This is a fallacy. [/quote] No, I don't know. Enlighten me. By the way, I still have heard from you what provision of Chapter 440 did the players that had to "sit out" did not meet. [/quote] It was the established one year residence requirement, from what I understand.  The two kids in question now live in the Yates (HISD) attendance zone, but had to establish residency there for one calendar year. They have now satisfied it. Done. [/quote] Now, according to Chapter 440, a kid would be ineligible for varsity activities for a year is if:  1) they attended a school which wasn't in the attendance zone in their parents reside, 2) they transferred from a school in a district where there is no zoning amongst the multiple schools and the young man (or woman) has transferred from one school to another or 3) were deemed to have transferred for athletic purposes. [Hidden Content] Now, instance No. 2 does not apply to HISD as their schools do have defined attendance zones, according to their policy: [Hidden Content] And in fact, here is the HISD map for Jack Yates High: [Hidden Content] So my question is:  Did those that have to sit out have parents who live outside of the attendance zone of Yates or were the young men deemed by their district's executive committee to have transferred for athletic purposes?

[quote name="Dick Vitale" post="1228775" timestamp="1338928108"] [quote author=WOSgrad link=topic=100336.msg1228772#msg1228772 date=1338927881] [quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=100336.msg1228769#msg1228769 date=1338927624] [quote author=WOSgrad link=topic=100336.msg1228768#msg1228768 date=1338927520] [quote author=Stevenash link=topic=100336.msg1228767#msg1228767 date=1338927099] [quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=100336.msg1228761#msg1228761 date=1338926799] Apparently, they were deemed eligible after sitting out from varsity competition for one calendar year. They sat out while playing junior varsity. NOW they are eligible without question. No further discussion needed. [/quote] TRANSLATION- They are NOT homegrown but I have to find ways to say it so it doesnt look like I said something that was not true. [/quote] And I will ask you, Mr. Nash, as you have [b]verifiable[/b] close ties to the coaching staff at Hardin-Jefferson, how many years did the young man who came in from Beaumont have to sit out before playing varsity for the Hawks? [/quote] He didn't...pays to have "connections" within the cozy confines of the UIL. ::) [/quote] And what connections are those? [/quote] They know who I am referring to..You have to be "connected" to even know about it.... ;) WOS, I know the Yates kids were under a LOT of scrutiny, and the ones that transferred to Yates were inspected with a fine tooth comb...They were made to play JV in order to eliminate any thought of wrong doing. They have done so..Ironically they had ZERO transfers during the 2011-12 school year..Not one...Let some posters tell it, they have them EVERY YEAR..This is a fallacy. [/quote] No, I don't know. Enlighten me. By the way, I still have heard from you what provision of Chapter 440 did the players that had to "sit out" did not meet.

[quote name="Dick Vitale" post="1228769" timestamp="1338927624"] [quote author=WOSgrad link=topic=100336.msg1228768#msg1228768 date=1338927520] [quote author=Stevenash link=topic=100336.msg1228767#msg1228767 date=1338927099] [quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=100336.msg1228761#msg1228761 date=1338926799] Apparently, they were deemed eligible after sitting out from varsity competition for one calendar year. They sat out while playing junior varsity. NOW they are eligible without question. No further discussion needed. [/quote] TRANSLATION- They are NOT homegrown but I have to find ways to say it so it doesnt look like I said something that was not true. [/quote] And I will ask you, Mr. Nash, as you have [b]verifiable[/b] close ties to the coaching staff at Hardin-Jefferson, how many years did the young man who came in from Beaumont have to sit out before playing varsity for the Hawks? [/quote] He didn't...pays to have "connections" within the cozy confines of the UIL. ::) [/quote] And what connections are those?

[quote name="Stevenash" post="1228767" timestamp="1338927099"] [quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=100336.msg1228761#msg1228761 date=1338926799] Apparently, they were deemed eligible after sitting out from varsity competition for one calendar year. They sat out while playing junior varsity. NOW they are eligible without question. No further discussion needed. [/quote] TRANSLATION- They are NOT homegrown but I have to find ways to say it so it doesnt look like I said something that was not true. [/quote] And I will ask you, Mr. Nash, as you have [b]verifiable[/b] close ties to the coaching staff at Hardin-Jefferson, how many years did the young man who came in from Beaumont have to sit out before playing varsity for the Hawks?

[quote name="Dick Vitale" post="1228761" timestamp="1338926799"] Apparently, they were deemed eligible after sitting out from varsity competition for one calendar year. They sat out while playing junior varsity. NOW they are eligible without question. No further discussion needed. [/quote] And which of the above requirements did the players fail to meet that caused them to have to sit out?

[quote name="Dick Vitale" post="1228745" timestamp="1338925308"] [quote author=WOSgrad link=topic=100336.msg1228718#msg1228718 date=1338923663] [quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=100336.msg1228654#msg1228654 date=1338918393] [quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=100336.msg1228632#msg1228632 date=1338914072] [quote author=dogs1218 link=topic=100336.msg1228628#msg1228628 date=1338913758] I am not a person who worships Yates, but I am a realist.. After Yates gets those players from their JV up to Varsity, since they had to sit a year, added with the returners from last year, All I can say is that 3A is in serious trouble [/quote] Those players mentioned earlier have already sat out their year. They all played varsity last season. [/quote] No AAW, they have a few other kids that played JV and sat out last season.... [/quote] Those kids that "played JV and sat out last season."  Why did they sit out? [/quote] Because Greg Wise follows rules and refuses to use his "connection" to the UIL as an advantage as SOME schools tend to do. [/quote] Well, let me ask it this way.  Under Chapter 440 of the UIL Constitution and Contest Rules, an athlete is eligible to participate in an athletic contest if: Subject to the other sections of this subchapter, an individual is eligible to participate in a League varsity athletic contest as a representative of a participant school if that individual: (a) meets all the requirements of Section 400; (b) is a resident of the member school district (see Section 442), and a resident of the attendance zone in which the participant school being attended is situated, (1) Or has been continuously enrolled in and regularly attending the school for at least the previous calendar year if his or her parents do not reside within the school district’s attendance zone; see (5) (B) below for exception. Note: A student who has changed schools for athletic purposes may be declared ineligible for more than one calendar year. See Section 443 (f) (3). (2) Or the student is attending a school outside the attendance zone where the parents reside because the school board or other appropriate authority changed district or attendance zone lines. (3) Or is a transfer student from a public 8-grade ISD not containing a high school, who transferred at the first opportunity: (A) to select a high school with geographical boundaries contiguous to his or her K-8 school; or (B) to a high school for which the K-8 school attended receives state transportation funds; or (C) to the high school located nearest the student’s residence. (4) Intra-District Transfers. A student who has an option to attend more than one high school within a school district, rather than being assigned to a school according to attendance zones, is eligible at the school first selected if he/she transfers at the first opportunity. If a student subsequently transfers to another school, the student is not eligible for varsity athletic competition until he/she has been in and regularly attended that school for at least the previous calendar year. (5) Foreign Exchange Students. (A) Foreign exchange students are ineligible for varsity athletic contests the first year they attend a participant school unless they are granted a waiver of the parent residence rule as outlined in Sections 465 and 468. (B) Foreign exchange students who receive a foreign exchange waiver and participate in UIL varsity athletic contests during their first year in the host school may not participate in those same contests if they return for a second year to the host school. The student may, however, participate in any other UIL varsity sport. See Official Interpretations #1 and 4, Appendix I. (c) is less than 19 years old on September 1 preceding the contest, or has been granted eligibility based on a disability which delayed his or her education by at least one year (see Section 446); (d) did not change schools for athletic purposes (see Sections 5 and 443); (e) is an amateur (see Section 441 and Official Interpretation #11, Appendix I); and (f) was eligible according to Section 400 (c) (fifteen calendar day rule) and Section 440 (b) (residence rule) at the participant school the student wishes to represent prior to the deadline for district certification (non-compliance results in ineligibility only in post-district competition in that sport). [b]So my question to you is:[/b]  Which one of the above requirements did those players who had to "play JV and sit out" fail to meet?

[quote name="Dick Vitale" post="1228654" timestamp="1338918393"] [quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=100336.msg1228632#msg1228632 date=1338914072] [quote author=dogs1218 link=topic=100336.msg1228628#msg1228628 date=1338913758] I am not a person who worships Yates, but I am a realist.. After Yates gets those players from their JV up to Varsity, since they had to sit a year, added with the returners from last year, All I can say is that 3A is in serious trouble [/quote] Those players mentioned earlier have already sat out their year. They all played varsity last season. [/quote] No AAW, they have a few other kids that played JV and sat out last season.... [/quote] Those kids that "played JV and sat out last season."  Why did they sit out?

[quote name="BrenhamFan" post="1228681" timestamp="1338920916"] [quote author=JohnSmith link=topic=100379.msg1228677#msg1228677 date=1338920635] I think Tomball will be a bigger factor than any FB schools with midrange 4A numbers. [/quote] I agree. [/quote] Just chatted with Chris Lyke about that and he said that he almost put Tomball in that slot.  However, he pointed to the fact that the Cougars are still on the comeback trail.  Also, they are making a coaching change this year and he is waiting to see what impact Tomball Memorial will have. As for Marshall and the comment about the weak bracket, he acknowledged that the Marshall team, although still talented, is not a strong team coming down.  As to how they would advance, he was talking more about the first two rounds of the bracket that either Marshall (or Tomball for that matter would face).  They get District 21-4A (the HISD district) in bi-district and either 23 or 24-4A.  Both have dangerous teams, but not necessarily any world beaters according to Chris.

Brent Williamson.  Congratulations and good luck this year, Coach!

[quote name="Rebel Yeller" post="1228630" timestamp="1338913933"] Wow it is hard to believe that football scrimages start in just 74 days! I know that people on SETXsports get excited most about football. We love our basketball, baseball, volleyball, softball and all the other sports our children and community kids are involved in, but football is what fills the stadiums, brings out bands, cheerleaders, pep squads, spirit flags and so much more. Right now every team believes they will be the state champion and that regardless of the summer heat the prize is waiting for them and their teammates. This will be my second year without a child in uniform, but after last year I can still say that there is no better show on any given Friday night than high school football in Texas. So to all the players prepare yourselves to excell. To the coaches sharpen your game plans to perfection. To the bands learn every note to the school fight song and prepare to have plenty of reasons to play it. To the cheerleaders, pep squads, drill teams and others who pump up the crowds do it higher, more inline and more over the top than ever before because for a few those dreams of a state title will come true and with 74 days left before your team can hit somebody else there is no reason to believe that one of those teams won't be yours! [/quote] I hear ya, 'Yeller!

No, there will be no live stream of the game.  We requested to carry the game live online but the TV station carrying the tape delay broadcast stated to the Coaches Association that it didn't want a live broadcast in front of it.

[quote name="octfeb" post="1228604" timestamp="1338910818"] [quote author=WOSgrad link=topic=100379.msg1228600#msg1228600 date=1338910592] I don't think Marshall will be as big a factor as some think.  Despite some good regular seasons and high rankings, they have usually found a way to exit the playoffs early. [/quote]Oh so they kinda like BH?  :D [/quote] Actually looking at their past few seasons, they do not even reach that level.  They have not been to the playoffs in 5 years and their recent regular season records were not even as good as I thought.

I don't think Marshall will be as big a factor as some think.

The last word on that was what came from the Enterprise and that is that interviews supposedly started yesterday, so we should get a list (if they decide to release it) pretty soon. I believe the target is to have the new coach named at Orangefield is next Monday night