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Lumberton , since it is a Lumberton thread, started establishing some of that swagger in 07-08 but then the coach had a couple of bad years and then left. Some of that was talent since they are a small school (same thing with Vidor) the talent is a lot more cyclical than for bigger schools that have more kids to choose from.

Nederland, for example went out early in the playoffs the first couple of years after Neumann got there because they weren't used to being there. Once he established that the team could make it there and advance, you started seeing deeper runs.

The implication that teams around here aren't doing it. Are you a Silsbee fan or from somewhere else?

Nope, teams with a history of winning tend to know what to do to get back to that. Teams that don't tend to fade out or panic once they get to the playoffs. Especially if the coach has been there for a long time which is another big part of it . If you don't have some consistency in coaching it is hard to get a program going in the right direction. the BMT schools are a prime example of that. (Sorry Soulja).

Doubtful. If the coaching is good they have the kids doing what they need to do to prepare for the season. You are also leaving out population shifts as a reason you see deeper runs more often by Houston and Dallas area teams. Both areas are exploding in growth which give you a much deeper talent pool.

Both. And both are cyclical. Ned and PNG both had good athletes in the 80's but both teams didn't have good coaches. Vidor is a prime example, look at the ups and downs of their seasons, the coach is the same since 99 but when they have the athletes they make more noise. And Katy, NS and some those other teams don't make it deep every year, sometimes they get knocked off too.

All teams have the same goal every year. Coaching is a big part of it, and that goes for during the offseason as well. Ned for example was really good in the 50's and 60's and then faded off until Neumann got here and now Barrow. Like I said , Katy disappeared for a long time until the current coach got there. Mojo is gone now after a couple of good coaches in the 70's and 80s. Highland Park went 50 years between championships, probably coaching and population related.

Not to mention it is all cyclical. Mojo was a terror in the 70s and 80s, but have faded away now. WOS went 28 years in between state championship runs. Katy has won championship in the 50's and then wasn't back until the 2000's and 2010's.

I disagree, actually with the whole premise as I have already had this discussion before not even a week ago. I don't want to rehash that whole thread again, but there are teams (white teams as you put it) in this area that have made deep runs fairly recently in the playoffs and can always do it again if everything falls right. There is always a modicum of luck involved in a deep run , the playoff draw, a fumble goes the right way, weather. I have seen teams from here win playoff games that no one picked them to win many times. That's what makes the playoffs interesting.

That comes down to money, not desire. Comparing Highland Park and some of the Houston areas to this area is apples to oranges.

Important game for Vidor as far as district standings go, they have one loss now and still have BH and Ned coming up. Three or four district losses in this district might not make the playoffs.

Nope. No hurt feelings here. It’s funny how all of the sudden that game doesn’t mean much when you are on the losing end .

Seeing as the last 20 years Ned has been in the playoffs more than PNG , do you really think that’s Ned’s super bowl? Ned has the same objective as every other team, state.

Yeah especially since they were saying the Shug was going to sweep Ned all three years. Lol

Also, you can play it off as much as you want, but I get on the PNG site too and I see the hand wringing and whining when y’all lose.

Lol. Yeah but if PNG wins they rush the field. (Just like Ned does). I’m not buying “we’re used to losing stuff”. It might not be the biggest win in a season it does matter and sometimes determines who wins district and gets a better path in the playoffs. Also, we had friends and relatives in both towns (I was there in 91-92) that made it sweeter when one side won.

Youngin

In the big scheme of things no, MCM doesn’t mean much. But you can beat that rivalry and I you think that game doesn’t mean more to the players your kidding yourself.

How much are tickets at Eagle Stadium?

The foods ok, I have heard the margaritas are pretty good.

Maybe, but he has been out several times this year.

Yep, they are open till 8 on Fridays. There is a small place called Meat Haven on 146 near 10, and also Tony's BBQ. Also a Freddy's burgers across 10 along with a Dickey's, Whataburger and others.

Hmmm, LCM isn't exactly tearing it up either.... LITTLE CYPRESS-MAURICEVILLE “Bears”YEAR W-L-T PTS-OPP COACH1970 4-6-0 183-239 Jim Crossland1971 6-4-0 132-160 Jim Crossland1972 7-3-0 157-114 Jim Crossland1973 4-6-0 108-147 Jim Crossland1974 5-5-0 217-196 Randall Dorsett1975 3-7-0 156-260 Randall Dorsett1976 3-4-2 101-122 Lidney Thompson1977 4-5-1 107-210 Lidney Thompson1978 4-6-0 109-138 Lidney Thompson1979 6-4-0 166-149 Lidney Thompson1980 3-7-0 85-194 Lidney Thompson1981 7-3-0 266-150 Ron Dupree1982 4-6-0 176-176 Ron Dupree1983 7-3-0 268- 89 Ron Dupree1984 2-8-0 243-223 Ron Dupree1985 2-8-0 129-254 Pat Wozniak1986 4-6-0 91-204 Pat Wozniak1987 4-6-0 158-198 Pat Wozniak1988 1-8-0 90-233 Pat Wozniak1989 4-5-1 156-211 Lucky Gamble1990 5-5-0 223-247 Lucky Gamble1991 7-3-0 181- 88 Rhodney Russell1992 R 5-5-1 184-178 Rhodney Russell1993 5-5-0 154-158 Rhodney Russell1994 C-- 11-1-0 311- 70 David Williams1995 R 9-2-0 240-139 David Williams1996 5-5-0 192-182 David Williams1997 R-- 11-3-0 412-170 David Williams1998 4-6-0 177-193 David Williams1999 3-7-0 179-246 David Williams2000 2-8-0 123-283 David Williams2001 3-6-0 181-188 David Williams2002 2-8-0 104-252 David Williams2003 5-5-0 172-206 David Williams2004 3-7-0 148-252 David Williams2005 2-6-0 122-209 Todd Moody2006 5-5-0 214-150 Todd Moody2007 1-9-0 132-283 Todd Moody2008 0-8-0 73-337 Todd Moody2009 4-6-0 217-294 Randy Crouch2010 7-3-0 366-292 Randy Crouch2011 4-6-0 199-249 Randy Crouch2012 4-6-0 291-290 Randy Crouch2013 F-- 5-5-0 198-233 Randy Crouch2014 T 5-6-0 217-202 Randy Crouch2015 2-8-0 301-304 Randy Crouch2016 T 5-6-0 305-404 Randy Crouch2017 TH 4-5-0 250-314 Randy CrouchALL-TIME RECORD: 212-265-5 8- 1- 0Playoff Record: 4-7-1

Lol. Seems like I heard this last year. What was the score again? Anyway better focus on Vidor and pray Shug is ready when Ned comes to town.

I noticed Coach Barrow looked a little perturbed when the PA News interviewed him after the game. Especially when asked about the penalties. I think he will get that straightened out.