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  1. 29 minutes ago, Reagan said:

    As I've said before -- nothing is in a straight line.  But, concerning Westerberg, it's easy to point to him.  But, I believe he was at BH for only 6 years.  I truly believe if he stayed he would have got a State Title at BH.  My opinion.  

    HAL WASSON
    33 years; 256-125-3; 23-13-1

    1986  Italy                              8-4-0*
    1987  Italy                              9-2-0*
    1988  San Saba                     4-6-1 R
    1989  San Saba                     8-3-0*
    1990  Pittsburg                       3-7-0
    1991  Pittsburg                       3-7-0
    1992  Kerens                          7-4-0 R
    1993  Kerens                        10-2-1 R
    1994  Kerens                          9-2-0*
    1995  Mexia                            9-2-1*
    1996  Mexia                          10-2-0 R
    1997  Mexia                            3-7-0
    1998  Mexia                            1-9-0
    1999  Liberty Hill                     3-7-0
    2000  Liberty Hill                     3-7-0
             —staff, Southlake Carroll—
    2003  Keller Fossil Ridge        6-4-0
    2004  Keller Fossil Ridge        6-4-0
    2005  Keller Fossil Ridge        6-5-0 T
    2006  Keller Fossil Ridge      10-2-0*
    2007  Southlake Carroll        11-2-0*
    2008  Southlake Carroll          8-3-0 R
    2009  Southlake Carroll        11-2-0*
    2010  Southlake Carroll        10-4-0 T
    2011  Southlake Carroll        16-0-0*
    2012  Southlake Carroll        12-2-0*
    2013  Southlake Carroll        11-2-0*
    2014  Southlake Carroll        13-1-0*
    2015  Southlake Carroll          9-3-0 R
    2016  Southlake Carroll        10-2-0*
    2017  Southlake Carroll        10-4-0 T
              ---AD, Irving---
    2019  Corsicana                     7-4-0 T
    2020  Corsicana                     4-6-0
    2021  Corsicana                     6-4-

     

    lets take look at this coach. It took him 24 years to get a state championship. He even coached at Liberty hill and was unsuccessful. He went to Mexia in 1995 and they won a state championship 1989. Keller is horrible. Pittsburg has one state championship in 1980 and is pretty below average. Kerens, San Saba and Corsicana is mediocre.  Now look at South Lake Carrol do you see how much his  coaching improved? Do you think he changed much throughout his years of experience probably so. But the one factor is that the talent was greater in South lake than those other teams he coached at.  Maybe PNG should have gave Faircloth 24 years and he could have got them a ring. But what if he goes to Sulphur Spring and wins a state championship. Will your opinion change about him?

  2. 3 hours ago, Reagan said:

    I'll ask you:  Did the "personel" just show up when Surratt at Carthage (after 84 years of no State Title) and Buchanan at Aledo showed up?  Of course not!!  They were there before.  The coach was the difference!   Again, letting a coach go, it all depends on where you set the bar.  My bar is high.  The PNG coach had 12 years.  Does that mean he was treated unfairly?  I wouldn't think so.  But, I knew after 7-8 years that a State Title wasn't in PNG's future.  Maybe the Superintendent and board members realized the same thing.  Like I've said before -- if one's expectations are low, then they'l be met EVERY time!

    T0M WESTERBERG
    17 years; 186-34-0; 16-11-4

    2004  Allen                     9-3-0 R
    2005  Allen                     9-3-0 R
    2006  Allen                   13-2-0*
    2007  Allen                   10-1-0*
    2008  Allen                   15-1-0*
    2009  Allen                   10-2-0*
    2010  Allen                   10-2-0*
    2011  Allen                   11-1-0*
    2012  Allen                   15-1-0*
    2013  Allen                   16-0-0*
    2014  Allen                   16-0-0*
    2015  Allen                   14-1-0*
    2016  Barbers Hill          8-3-0 T
    2017  Barbers Hill          6-3-0
    2018  Barbers Hill          7-4-0 T
    2019  Barbers Hill        11-2-0*
    2020  Barbers Hill          6-5-0 T
    If getting a State Championship coach is all that is needed why didn't Barbers Hill win one? I think Athletes play a part of it. I do agree good coaching helps the program.  But some schools don't have the athletes to compete deep in the playoffs. It also comes down to depth on your roster if you have multiple players going both ways and the other team doesn't it makes things even harder.
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  5. On 10/4/2021 at 12:50 AM, refuse2lose said:
     
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  8. 12 minutes ago, Lions Pride 2021 said:

    Its between Hargrave and Livingston.

    If you pay for the website access, they flipped to Livingston winning district, Hargrave second, Visor third and LC-M fourth.

    I'd like to see a repeat, but I'm more interested in them making a run to the region championship.  Livingston has enough talent to be play at least three extra games, if not four. Same for Hargrave.

    I dont see LCM at 4th but we will see.

  9. On 7/8/2021 at 10:04 PM, Coach Uno said:

    Wow that meeting was crazy last night. How can one organization get 9 waviers and another organization can’t get 2 for one team and two for another team. I don’t understand it. 

    Doesnt Stjfl have a new president?

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