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On 10/1/2019 at 1:09 PM, AggiesAreWe said:

Silsbee turning in 285. Going to win a few 2A state championships in next 3-4 years.

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On 10/1/2019 at 1:09 PM, AggiesAreWe said:

Silsbee turning in 285. Going to win a few 2A state championships in next 3-4 years.

Silsbee vs Canadian.

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