Iran War Update

[Porter]

5 minutes ago, thetragichippy said:

Very impressed with the word gymnastics avoiding answering my question…..🤦🏻‍♂️

If you’re talking to me please let me know what the question is, I’d be glad to answer it for you. 

[Reagan]

6 minutes ago, thetragichippy said:

Reports also said DOJ was going after Jean Carroll……

Yeah, again -- what happened to the statue of limitations?

[Reagan]

4 minutes ago, thetragichippy said:

It is already been decided that no matter what deal Trump makes, it’s gonna be bad for America.

That's why I posted the TDS hotline.  Always trying to help the less fortunate!  LOL!

[Porter]

2 hours ago, baddog said:

Stop posting garbage. They have their own site which you seem to visit. You have hooked no one.

Actually the individual was commenting on this post if you read the whole post. I guess they’re not reliable too. Lol

 

[OlDawg]

1 hour ago, thetragichippy said:

It is already been decided that no matter what deal Trump makes, it’s gonna be bad for America.

You are correct if it's any deal that leaves the current regime in place. The amount of time until it comes back to bite us will be the only question. Sorry.

I don't have TDS. I have experience with these folks. Hopefully, my posts have shown that I am somewhat competent on these type issues. I'm not even a 'Debbie Downer.' Again, it's just experience.

And I could care less what the 'Trump don't play' crowd has to say. They've been wrong on this conflict from day one.

[baddog]

Well, I think $300 billion is way too much, but we did rebuild Iraq ($140 billion), Afghanistan ($150 billion), and under the Marshall Plan, rebuilt Europe ($150 billion equivalent) after WWII. So let’s overreact because it’s Trump. Also, I watched the news this morning, and there was no mention of money. 

$300 billion???? We have given almost $200 billion to Ukraine and we all know where that money went. Where’s the outrage? 

[OlDawg]

I have no idea about any supposed $300 Million, or any of that. I don't think anyone knows yet. People are just spitballing. What I do know is the U.S. has more than enough munitions to take care of the Iran situation with no limitations. Some people are concerned because it would leave us short--if needed--to defend Taiwan in the 2 or 3 years or less timeframe. I can guarantee the U.S. is already looking at cheaper, new tech based on the Iran conflict that can be brought to bear in a shorter timeframe. The U.S. military industrial complex learns from every conflict. That--in a reverse good way--is why our tech always leads the way.

The latest Defense Dept. budget request included $54 Billion for autonomous warfare programs. The U.S. will have AI in great use for military actions before anyone else is close. Somewhat scary. But, as long as humans are still making final decisions, it's the future of warfare. We need to lead. Not lag.

Newsflash reiteration: We weren't going to wholeheartedly defend Taiwan anyway. It's too close in proximity to mainland China, and their assets. It would basically be undefendable if China wanted to go full bore invasion.

Iran could have been pretty much over without a 6 week ceasefire.

The next large scale conflict will be about energy and food resources. The Greenies have been acknowledged (even by the UN scientists) to have been full of horse manure. Many countries have been ruined, and economies have been crushed. Billions have been wasted while a few profited.

Trump has done well in securing the Western Hemisphere. We have plenty of oil between Venezuela, Mexico, Canada, and the U.S. The Americas are energy rich. We are good on Nat gas. As far as agriculture, the Americas also offer a bounty that makes much of the world envious. Trump has also done well in attempting to onshore our needs in critical minerals and semiconductor fab shops. We are good on aluminum and steel.

All-in-all, This Administration has us on a net positive for the next big conflict as long as the semiconductor and rare earth mineral investments get cranking fairly soon, and actually begin producing benefits.

But, Iran is a rock around our proverbial necks. The prolonged conflict is hurting the everyday American, and no one should even attempt to deny. POTUS--and the public--need to understand, and be told the truth that some young men and women will lose their lives to secure all of our long-term safety. The fantastic folks who serve us all know what they are asked when they enlist. This is why they (the 1-2% that serve) are special. They all deserve our gratitude and support. They also deserve full backing, and the ability to perform their jobs while being led by competent leadership.

I'm not as concerned about the competency of our military leadership. But, regardless of Administrations, I've been concerned about our political leadership's convictions and actual willingness to win for a long time. It's not a new problem.

If you're sending our folks into harm's way, send them under true reasons, back them 110%, and then get out of the way except to supply them with everything they need. Give them clear mission objectives, and then act like you want to win.

I am NOT a warmonger. As someone who has experienced combat, I'm actually almost opposite. But, preparation and having the 'bigger stick' is still the best way to avoid major conflicts. Once you're in one, stop half arsing it.

[baddog]

Yes, let’s not have another Vietnam with a joke of a DMZ. 
 

Serious question OlDawg: What do you suggest we do? We can’t nuke them. If we take out their bridges and power grids, the Iranian people will suffer and civilians possibly killed (although that’s been a fact of any war). There has been no aerial (jet) or naval confrontation by the Iranians. It’s been all missiles and drones. I’m not sure what Iran has in store should we put boots on the ground, but I’m sure our intelligence knows. I’ve already stated that regime change needs to happen, but either way it goes down…….boots on the ground or treaty…..people will be dissatisfied. That’s a fact.

[thetragichippy]

16 hours ago, OlDawg said:

You are correct if it's any deal that leaves the current regime in place. The amount of time until it comes back to bite us will be the only question. Sorry.

I don't have TDS. I have experience with these folks. Hopefully, my posts have shown that I am somewhat competent on these type issues. I'm not even a 'Debbie Downer.' Again, it's just experience.

And I could care less what the 'Trump don't play' crowd has to say. They've been wrong on this conflict from day one.

You speak your mind from what appears to be experience, and I read everything you post. You also post to debate versus post to “win” or one up someone which I respect. I like reading your opinions because they are sometimes different than mine, which makes me think

[OlDawg]

37 minutes ago, baddog said:

Yes, let’s not have another Vietnam with a joke of a DMZ. 
 

Serious question OlDawg: What do you suggest we do? We can’t nuke them. If we take out their bridges and power grids, the Iranian people will suffer and civilians possibly killed (although that’s been a fact of any war). There has been no aerial (jet) or naval confrontation by the Iranians. It’s been all missiles and drones. I’m not sure what Iran has in store should we put boots on the ground, but I’m sure our intelligence knows. I’ve already stated that regime change needs to happen, but either way it goes down…….boots on the ground or treaty…..people will be dissatisfied. That’s a fact.

I’ve posted my thoughts a couple posts previous. Bury—or take out—their shoreline tunnel/fortification systems. Without them, their control of the Strait via threats is negligible at worst, and nonexistent at best. Any launcher in country that shows its face, obliterate. Drones should be flying 24/7. Any boat on the water…sink it.

Yes, you can do a lot more damage before taking out dual use facilities. Iran has a lot of open, unpatrolled territory. Use it.

Make sure Starlink is being used to inform the people, or use some money to provide free service via AT&T, Verizon, or any and all to bypass Iran’s regulation of the internet. Get them info on how to access. Get information to the people of Iran. If you’re going to use money, use it to get people on your side—the original wish.