Iran War Update

[Reagan]

9 minutes ago, mat said:

At this point it doesn’t look like he has a plan. I’m not saying I was in favor of the war, but its strategy sense, if you have your enemy on the ropes you don’t back up let up and give him to catch his wind, regroup, relocate and reload, but that’s what we did.

Personally, I think he doesn’t want to hurt the citizens of Iran.  He may, though, have to do something drastic like Truman did when Japan wouldn’t give up.  You are seeing similarities between Iran and Japan about not giving up.  But their reasons are different.  As far as Trump is concerned, what does drastic look like?!  If he decides the citizens don’t matter he could easily flatten Iran.  

[Reagan]

12 minutes ago, mat said:

So you don’t like free thinking conservatives that do not pledge unconditional allegiance to the Trump MAGA program? There can be loyalty to a fault. 

Loyalty is like being a little bit pregnant.  You either are or you aren’t.  This is what’s doing the RINOs in!  

[baddog]

39 minutes ago, Reagan said:

Personally, I think he doesn’t want to hurt the citizens of Iran.  He may, though, have to do something drastic like Truman did when Japan wouldn’t give up.  You are seeing similarities between Iran and Japan about not giving up.  But their reasons are different.  As far as Trump is concerned, what does drastic look like?!  If he decides the citizens don’t matter he could easily flatten Iran.  

Yes, when I said lives lost, I should have said both sides. The way these back fighting Muslims hide in schools and hospitals, it would be very difficult to remove them without civilian casualties. I don’t think he will pull a Truman.

[DCT]

53 minutes ago, Reagan said:

Personally, I think he doesn’t want to hurt the citizens of Iran.  He may, though, have to do something drastic like Truman did when Japan wouldn’t give up.  You are seeing similarities between Iran and Japan about not giving up.  But their reasons are different.  As far as Trump is concerned, what does drastic look like?!  If he decides the citizens don’t matter he could easily flatten Iran.  

Surely you don’t believe Trump held back because of Iran citizens? Oldawg said it best when he said you don’t put your foot on the enemy’s neck and then let up. Go on national TV every other day and say we have a deal, we’re close to a deal, we had to give them love taps but the ceasefire still stands, we will hit them so hard, etc.

[baddog]

8 minutes ago, DCT said:

Surely you don’t believe Trump held back because of Iran citizens? Oldawg said it best when he said you don’t put your foot on the enemy’s neck and then let up. Go on national TV every other day and say we have a deal, we’re close to a deal, we had to give them love taps but the ceasefire still stands, we will hit them so hard, etc.

Trump pulled back because the next stage involved taking out bridges and power grids, which would definitely affect the Iranian people. If Trump hits them tomorrow, someone will cry about it.

[Reagan]

16 minutes ago, DCT said:

Surely you don’t believe Trump held back because of Iran citizens? Oldawg said it best when he said you don’t put your foot on the enemy’s neck and then let up. Go on national TV every other day and say we have a deal, we’re close to a deal, we had to give them love taps but the ceasefire still stands, we will hit them so hard, etc.

I think Trump has sympathy for the Iranian people.  They aren’t the radicals the leaders are.  We should be somehow arming these citizens.  Maybe through the Israelis they are being armed.  The people need to take over. 

[mat]

1 hour ago, Reagan said:

Loyalty is like being a little bit pregnant.  You either are or you aren’t.  This is what’s doing the RINOs in!  

You do you.

[OlDawg]

1 hour ago, baddog said:

Trump pulled back because the next stage involved taking out bridges and power grids, which would definitely affect the Iranian people. If Trump hits them tomorrow, someone will cry about it.

Those who have been in armed conflict are usually the last ones to want to start one. But, when the decision is made, and the ‘trigger is pulled’, anything less than all out effort gets more of ‘our people’ dead.

Avoid civilian casualties where possible. If not possible, and legitimate targets are keyed, it is a sad byproduct of conflict.

If you don’t have the stomach for it, don’t start the conflict.

I can guarantee the IRGC wouldn’t blink twice if they had the capability to set off a dirty bomb in a civilian area in the U.S.

THAT’s who we’re dealing with. The version of beliefs they hold actually desires the end of Israel and the Big Satan. Not just the military. The entire civilian population. They don’t care. They believe it will usher in the return of their prophet. Others are more secular, and just know if they lose power, they’ll be killed.

I’m not joking when I say these folks are bat sh t crazy. If you don’t eliminate them, they’ll pull another cockroach in 2-3 years.

Better to deal with it now than take a chance on the next Administration being Gavin & AOC, or someone similar.

 

[Porter]

10 hours ago, Reagan said:

Well, I don’t like those that are only fair-weather supposed conservatives.  You know, the ones that run when something doesn’t go their way.  Apparently they don’t understand what loyalty means!  

Trump or the GOP are not conservatives.

There is nothing conservative about spending 2 trillion dollars a year more than you take in, there’s nothing conservative about allowing 500,000 Chinese students into our country because you don’t want to offend Xi. There’s nothing conservative about not addressing Xi about allowing Covid into our country and destroying hundreds of thousands of businesses and millions of deaths & shutting down a 36 trillion dollar economy. I could go on but I’ll stop there. 

[Porter]

8 hours ago, Reagan said:

Personally, I think he doesn’t want to hurt the citizens of Iran.  He may, though, have to do something drastic like Truman did when Japan wouldn’t give up.  You are seeing similarities between Iran and Japan about not giving up.  But their reasons are different.  As far as Trump is concerned, what does drastic look like?!  If he decides the citizens don’t matter he could easily flatten Iran.  

You mean like China did with Covid to us, it wasn’t a bomb but it had the same affect just about. You seem to have totally forgot about that, oh that’s right because Trump says so. 

[Porter]

8 hours ago, Reagan said:

Loyalty is like being a little bit pregnant.  You either are or you aren’t.  This is what’s doing the RINOs in!  

No, critical thinking tells loyalty let’s not get pregnant till we’re ready and able to raise a child. SMH