SCOTUS Rules Against Trump Administration IEEPA Tariffs

[OlDawg]

54 minutes ago, TheMissingBand said:

That’s an overreach… but i do like having a health department around to make sure that things are sanitary around those restaurants… food temps, extermination schedules , etc. 

@thetragichippy knows. He and I usually agree on quite a bit. I'm surprised he likes the government involvement in rate setting. There's a good example of the differences between a conservative and a libertarian. One wants to control a social behavior based on their own moral values. (Even though it's an admirable desire.) The other doesn't.

[UT alum]

2 hours ago, OlDawg said:

@thetragichippy knows. He and I usually agree on quite a bit. I'm surprised he likes the government involvement in rate setting. There's a good example of the differences between a conservative and a libertarian. One wants to control a social behavior based on their own moral values. (Even though it's an admirable desire.) The other doesn't.

What does the other one want? To control social behavior using a different set of values, or just let social behavior run its course with no attempt to shape outcomes?

[OlDawg]

1 hour ago, UT alum said:

What does the other one want? To control social behavior using a different set of values, or just let social behavior run its course with no attempt to shape outcomes?

The latter—as long as that individual’s behavior does no harm to others. It’s called personal liberty of the individual. A rare commodity nowadays.

Here’s a little story I’ll just throw out there.

There’s 3 bankers with credit cards. A customer comes in asking about credit cards.

• First banker says, "HI. I'm a Liberal banker. I'll give you a credit card, and take of everything for you as long as you use it like I tell you."
• Second banker says, "Hi. I'm a Conservative banker. I'll help you get a credit card with low interest rates, a low credit limit so you don't overextend, and credit counseling to teach you how to responsibly use your new card."
• The third banker says, "Hi. I'm a libertarian banker. Here's my credit card offerings. Just pick the one that you like best. But remember, you're responsible for all charges."

Neither banker in and of themselves are bad. Neither card in and of itself is bad. Each is a choice based on personal priorities.