ANOTHER ICE SHOOTING IN Minneapolis

[Porter]

Seems like a nice gentle nurse. 
 

 

[thetragichippy]

40 minutes ago, Porter said:

Seems like a nice gentle nurse. 
 

 

This is making that CNN story about his ribs seem a little more accurate

[tvc184]

2 hours ago, thetragichippy said:

no paywall - a fairly long read, but it does include still frames from the videos we have and case law…..

if you want to hear an opinion from someone who has actually prosecuted use of force cases. 

@tvc184 - this may be right up your ally, 
 

 

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That is a good article. 

He actually went into the incident and I tried to stick to the laws that I think apply to the situation. 

[tvc184]

25 minutes ago, thetragichippy said:

This is making that CNN story about his ribs seem a little more accurate

Just a passive and honorable VA nurse trying to help others.  

[Porter]

23 minutes ago, tvc184 said:

Just a passive and honorable VA nurse trying to help others.  

Very compassionate 

[DCT]

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Blame game.

[thetragichippy]

36 minutes ago, DCT said:

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Blame game.

So

[DCT]

2 minutes ago, thetragichippy said:

So

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[LumRaiderFan]

2 minutes ago, DCT said:

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No lies there.

[DCT]

16 minutes ago, thetragichippy said:

So

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Gets interesting.

[OlDawg]

20 minutes ago, DCT said:

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If Mayorkas was able to keep his job while allowing millions of illegals in, I’m not sure why Noem should be impeached for a split second decision made by an officer under duress.

To me, it sounds like they’re more worried about collective bargaining rights than the death of their member.

[DCT]

1 minute ago, OlDawg said:

If Mayorkas was able to keep his job while allowing millions of illegals in, I’m not sure why Noem should be impeached for a split second decision made by an officer under duress.

Like I stated earlier, the Federal Government is policy driven.  You break policy they will hang you out to dry,   Ten months until election is weighing heavy on those up for reelection. 

[OlDawg]

4 minutes ago, DCT said:

Like I stated earlier, the Federal Government is policy driven.  You break policy they will hang you out to dry,   Ten months until election is weighing heavy on those up for reelection. 

Policy driven = CYA

While they may need to refine some policies, I hope they don’t allow the mob to think they can dictate—through illegal actions—policy. I think that would be a major mistake for everyone in the future about any number of issues.

[DCT]

17 minutes ago, OlDawg said:

Policy driven = CYA

While they may need to refine some policies, I hope they don’t allow the mob to think they can dictate—through illegal actions—policy. I think that would be a major mistake for everyone in the future about any number of issues.

Federal officers are often protected by qualified immunity, shielding them from personal liability for damages unless they violate "clearly established" laws, policy or constitutional rights.

[DCT]

2 Border patrol agents placed on Administrative leave.  Bavino was not being honest when he said the agents were still working in other states.

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[tvc184]

4 hours ago, DCT said:

Federal officers are often protected by qualified immunity, shielding them from personal liability for damages unless they violate "clearly established" laws, policy or constitutional rights.

Imagine that, if you didn’t violate the law then you can’t be personally sued. 

[Porter]

 

[DCT]

6 hours ago, tvc184 said:

Imagine that, if you didn’t violate the law then you can’t be personally sued. 

Big if at the end of the day.  If you violate the law the government will not protect you if it is outside the scope of your duties.  If you do violate  it can be costly.

[Big girl]

11 hours ago, OlDawg said:

If Mayorkas was able to keep his job while allowing millions of illegals in, I’m not sure why Noem should be impeached for a split second decision made by an officer under duress.

To me, it sounds like they’re more worried about collective bargaining rights than the death of their member.

Under duress?

[baddog]

8 minute video explains it so simply, even a liberal could understand. I know it doesn’t fit the narrative, but it explains reality. For those living in Disneyland, you’re too far gone anyway….

 

[thetragichippy]

Welp……

Homan made it clear they are not walking away from Minneapolis….Staying until the problem is gone.

They will draw down agents ONLY if there is cooperation from local police and jails….

He ALSO mentioned and supported Kristi Noem 

 

[DCT]

6 hours ago, tvc184 said:

Imagine that, if you didn’t violate the law then you can’t be personally sued. 

In your opinion did the officers violate the law?  

[thetragichippy]

CNN is trying to say there is a change in tone😂

There is no change in tone…if you are here illegally, you are gone!

[thetragichippy]

1 minute ago, DCT said:

In your opinion did the officers violate the law?  

You should really read the link I posted.

[OlDawg]

50 minutes ago, Big girl said:

Under duress?

Yes. While LEO's operate under fairly static rules, the threats to them are as real as they were to me. The only difference is that my conduct under DOD was regulated differently on each assignment by mission specific Rules of Engagement. So, no interdiction was ever exactly the same from a legal standpoint.