Reagan Posted 16 hours ago Report Posted 16 hours ago This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up on X: A Federal Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agent in Minnesota shot a second person dead yesterday. Most of the debate since then has focused, understandably, on whether the ICE agent acted in what he perceived to be self-defense. Whatever the case, it’s clear that, by encouraging people to interfere in law enforcement operations, the Left is getting people killed. Videos show both victims, Renee Good and Alex Pretti, impeding law enforcement operations, which progressive nonprofits, Democrats, and liberal influencers have been encouraging for months. @UT alum @DCT mat 1 Quote
baddog Posted 16 hours ago Report Posted 16 hours ago 1 minute ago, Reagan said: This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up on X: A Federal Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agent in Minnesota shot a second person dead yesterday. Most of the debate since then has focused, understandably, on whether the ICE agent acted in what he perceived to be self-defense. Whatever the case, it’s clear that, by encouraging people to interfere in law enforcement operations, the Left is getting people killed. Videos show both victims, Renee Good and Alex Pretti, impeding law enforcement operations, which progressive nonprofits, Democrats, and liberal influencers have been encouraging for months. @UT alum @DCT The life of a liberal……everything is always someone else’s fault. They never own up to anything. Never! Quote
LumRaiderFan Posted 14 hours ago Report Posted 14 hours ago 1 hour ago, baddog said: The life of a liberal……everything is always someone else’s fault. They never own up to anything. Never! Their miserable existence is always somebody else’s fault. baddog 1 Quote
baddog Posted 14 hours ago Report Posted 14 hours ago Leftist agitators…..the same people for which warnings are on a pack of fish hooks not to put them in you mouth. Quote
bullets13 Posted 13 hours ago Report Posted 13 hours ago 12 hours ago, Big girl said: What do you think about this guy being executed after he was disarmed? I think you don’t know what executing is. But as to why he was shot, I know that one officer yelled “gun!”, and within a second or two of that another officer disarmed him, during which the gun went off. I believe the officer who fired the shots either saw the pistol taken and in the struggle mistakenly thought that the victim had pulled it from the holster, or didn’t see the gun but heard “gun” and then almost immediately heard the shot and thought the victim was pulling the trigger. I don’t think the victim “deserved” to be shot, and I don’t think it should’ve happened under these circumstances, but I do think there’s going to be a pretty strong argument for ruling the shooting as justified. It’s not really any different than a lot of the cases we see where some kid who’s afraid of the cops runs when he’s pulled over for speeding or fights the cops because they’re busting him on a misdemeanor marijuana charge. The situation escalates needlessly and all of a sudden something that shouldn’t have been a big deal at all puts a cop in a situation where they have to make a split-second decision based on the information they have and their reasonable belief that they’re in danger. Oftentimes when we can go back and look at it from a different angle (and in slow motion), the cop could’ve done something different. But they wouldn’t have had to make a split-second decision if the person they were dealing with didn’t put them in the situation to begin with. Sometimes cops get it wrong, and sometimes it’s still justified. I think that may end up being the case here. thetragichippy, OlDawg, LumRaiderFan and 2 others 5 Quote
bullets13 Posted 13 hours ago Report Posted 13 hours ago 11 hours ago, LumRaiderFan said: Man, this rings of Cardinalbacker.🙂 Yeah, I’m having flashbacks listening to these posts LumRaiderFan 1 Quote
bullets13 Posted 13 hours ago Report Posted 13 hours ago 11 hours ago, thetragichippy said: I’ve had a concealed carry permit for a long time…..I’ve never thought while carrying my gun I would need more than what my concealed weapon will carry. I’ve also when pulled over ever refused to comply to the officers orders….where is your gun? It’s in my console. Ok, don’t reach for yours and I won’t reach for mine….deal! I’m smart enough to know it would not end good if I reached in that console….. I’ve always got an extra mag or two floating around somewhere 😀 thetragichippy 1 Quote
Reagan Posted 11 hours ago Report Posted 11 hours ago 12 hours ago, UT alum said: I think “murdered” is a more accurate description. The problem is that state sanctioned actors are doing the murdering. Are these the peaceful protesters you are talking about? This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up Quote
DCT Posted 11 hours ago Report Posted 11 hours ago 5 hours ago, Reagan said: This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up on X: A Federal Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agent in Minnesota shot a second person dead yesterday. Most of the debate since then has focused, understandably, on whether the ICE agent acted in what he perceived to be self-defense. Whatever the case, it’s clear that, by encouraging people to interfere in law enforcement operations, the Left is getting people killed. Videos show both victims, Renee Good and Alex Pretti, impeding law enforcement operations, which progressive nonprofits, Democrats, and liberal influencers have been encouraging for months. @UT alum @DCT 47 days is not enough training for any LEO. The interaction with the community reflects how they have had limited training. The use of the OC/CS spray tells me they haven’t been properly trained in the use of less than lethal. You are trained to never disperse at the distance these officers are deploying aerosol into the eyes of citizens. The way these officers stack the door upon entrance of an home and the way they position their vehicles when they stop vehicles is not in line with adequate training. Lastly before weapons are fired you always check your cross fire. After action review will show a lot of mistakes were made. Training or lack there of is getting people killed. “In a Jan. 12-17 national poll by the New York Times (https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2026/01/22/polls/times-siena-national-poll-crosstabs.html), 61% of respondents said they believe ICE tactics have gone too far, including 71% of independents and 19% of Republicans.” Excerpt From “Some Republicans break from Trump on immigration surge after latest shooting” The Minnesota Star Tribune This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up “GOP Rep. Michael McCaul of Texas, the former chair of the House Homeland Security Committee, said he was “troubled” by the shooting. “A thorough investigation is necessary — both to get to the bottom of these incidents and to maintain Americans’ confidence in our justice system,” he said.” Quote
mat Posted 5 hours ago Report Posted 5 hours ago 5 hours ago, DCT said: 47 days is not enough training for any LEO. The interaction with the community reflects how they have had limited training. The use of the OC/CS spray tells me they haven’t been properly trained in the use of less than lethal. You are trained to never disperse at the distance these officers are deploying aerosol into the eyes of citizens. The way these officers stack the door upon entrance of an home and the way they position their vehicles when they stop vehicles is not in line with adequate training. Lastly before weapons are fired you always check your cross fire. After action review will show a lot of mistakes were made. Training or lack there of is getting people killed. “In a Jan. 12-17 national poll by the New York Times (https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2026/01/22/polls/times-siena-national-poll-crosstabs.html), 61% of respondents said they believe ICE tactics have gone too far, including 71% of independents and 19% of Republicans.” Excerpt From “Some Republicans break from Trump on immigration surge after latest shooting” The Minnesota Star Tribune This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up “GOP Rep. Michael McCaul of Texas, the former chair of the House Homeland Security Committee, said he was “troubled” by the shooting. “A thorough investigation is necessary — both to get to the bottom of these incidents and to maintain Americans’ confidence in our justice system,” he said.” 1 polls are useless 2 of coarse a thorough investigation is needed 3 to blame this on the lack of ICE training in mob management rather than blaming the mob is unreasonable. 4 if you want better trained personnel to handle the mob, shouldn’t we bring in the military? Reagan, baddog and Porter 2 1 Quote
Porter Posted 4 hours ago Report Posted 4 hours ago 1 hour ago, mat said: 1 polls are useless 2 of coarse a thorough investigation is needed 3 to blame this on the lack of ICE training in mob management rather than blaming the mob is unreasonable. 4 if you want better trained personnel to handle the mob, shouldn’t we bring in the military? This is a result of the mayor of Minneapolis refusing to let his police force support ice operations by providing crowd control while ice agents arrest people that have broken the law. Random agitators are running up on ice agents and getting too close to ice operations. This is all on the Minnesota Governor and Mayor of Minneapolis. The billions of dollars in fraud in Minnesota has a lot to do with whats going on there. Quote
OlDawg Posted 3 hours ago Report Posted 3 hours ago Not commenting on the latest shooting at this time. @bullets13 pretty well covered my personal view. But, this is an interesting bit of info—for whatever it’s worth. Take it as you will. Will be interesting to follow and see if anything comes out of it. This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up Does anyone know if the firearm was a Glock with no safety? Quote
DCT Posted 3 hours ago Report Posted 3 hours ago 2 hours ago, mat said: 1 polls are useless 2 of coarse a thorough investigation is needed 3 to blame this on the lack of ICE training in mob management rather than blaming the mob is unreasonable. 4 if you want better trained personnel to handle the mob, shouldn’t we bring in the military? This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up In order for ice to withdraw,Minnesota must turn over voter rolls. This kinda makes your theory mute. Sounds political and extortion. I thought this was about removing illegals? 🌊 Quote
thetragichippy Posted 3 hours ago Author Report Posted 3 hours ago 9 hours ago, bullets13 said: It’s not really any different than a lot of the cases we see where some kid who’s afraid of the cops runs when he’s pulled over for speeding or fights the cops because they’re busting him on a misdemeanor marijuana charge. The situation escalates needlessly and all of a sudden something that shouldn’t have been a big deal at all puts a cop in a situation where they have to make a split-second decision based on the information they have and their reasonable belief that they’re in danger. @Big girl - This is typically the common denominator - They don't comply with the cop. I preached this during the "unarmed black male" period before and around covid. BLM could march, protest and blame the police for black folks getting killed by the police OR they could spend all that protest money on a campaign to persuade blacks and minorities to simply comply. Think about how far the 90 million in revenues in 2020 would have went towards advertisements and programs to convince people to comply.....because if you think about it, all those protest, all the burned buildings and vandalism during that time, not one law was changed..... Quote
DCT Posted 3 hours ago Report Posted 3 hours ago 16 minutes ago, DCT said: This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up In order for ice to withdraw Minnesota must turn over voter rolls. This kinda makes your theory mute. Sounds political and extortion. I thought this was about removing illegals? 🌊 The same lady who lied about other investigations and information she may have had. Minnesota’s sovereignty, demanding that it forfeit its ability to make and enforce its own laws and maintain its voter rolls without oversight from the executive branch, which DOES not have authority over elections. Quote
DCT Posted 3 hours ago Report Posted 3 hours ago 43 minutes ago, Porter said: Well said. Who is Eric Daughtery? if pollls are useless than what does that make this? Quote
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DCT Posted 2 hours ago Report Posted 2 hours ago 14 minutes ago, LumRaiderFan said: This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up What do you think he can accomplish? People are still salty over the $50,000. They do not trust him. Pam Bondi inserted foot in mouth again. Richard W. Painter, a law professor and former chief White House ethics lawyer from 2005 to 2007, on X: "This sure sounds like extortion." Quote
thetragichippy Posted 2 hours ago Author Report Posted 2 hours ago 28 minutes ago, DCT said: What do you think he can accomplish? Looks like Walz is coming to his senses...... From Truth Social: Governor Tim Walz called me with the request to work together with respect to Minnesota. It was a very good call, and we, actually, seemed to be on a similar wavelength. I told Governor Walz that I would have Tom Homan call him, and that what we are looking for are any and all Criminals that they have in their possession. The Governor, very respectfully, understood that, and I will be speaking to him in the near future. He was happy that Tom Homan was going to Minnesota, and so am I! We have had such tremendous SUCCESS in Washington, D.C., Memphis, Tennessee, and New Orleans, Louisiana, and virtually every other place that we have “touched” and, even in Minnesota, Crime is way down, but both Governor Walz and I want to make it better! PRESIDENT DONALD J. TRUMP This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up LumRaiderFan and baddog 2 Quote
LumRaiderFan Posted 2 hours ago Report Posted 2 hours ago 36 minutes ago, DCT said: What do you think he can accomplish? People are still salty over the $50,000. They do not trust him. Pam Bondi inserted foot in mouth again. Richard W. Painter, a law professor and former chief White House ethics lawyer from 2005 to 2007, on X: "This sure sounds like extortion." Lots of folks trust him, maybe not the violent mobs in Minnesota and their delusional supporters. Look at what he has already accomplished, to think he’s going there for photo ops would be a serious miscalculation. He’s going there because democrats won’t handle their responsibilities, which is a shame because he’s got enough on his plate already. Quote
baddog Posted 2 hours ago Report Posted 2 hours ago 26 minutes ago, thetragichippy said: Looks like Walz is coming to his senses...... From Truth Social: Governor Tim Walz called me with the request to work together with respect to Minnesota. It was a very good call, and we, actually, seemed to be on a similar wavelength. I told Governor Walz that I would have Tom Homan call him, and that what we are looking for are any and all Criminals that they have in their possession. The Governor, very respectfully, understood that, and I will be speaking to him in the near future. He was happy that Tom Homan was going to Minnesota, and so am I! We have had such tremendous SUCCESS in Washington, D.C., Memphis, Tennessee, and New Orleans, Louisiana, and virtually every other place that we have “touched” and, even in Minnesota, Crime is way down, but both Governor Walz and I want to make it better! PRESIDENT DONALD J. TRUMP This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up Methinks Walz has ulterior motives. Trump knows not to trust him any further than he can throw him. Getting in good graces and doing an about face when the walls are closing in, is an act of desperation. Trump sees right through this but is welcoming cooperation. This will simply prolong the fraud investigation. Walz should have done this before two of his protesters got killed. Reagan 1 Quote
thetragichippy Posted 1 hour ago Author Report Posted 1 hour ago 1 hour ago, DCT said: They do not trust him. He’s worked under 6 administrations and never an issue until Trump…..the left demonizing anyone that is associated with Trump is old and proven untrue. ya’ll need a new tactic, it won Trump an election including the popular vote….. Quote
DCT Posted 1 hour ago Report Posted 1 hour ago 1 hour ago, thetragichippy said: Looks like Walz is coming to his senses...... From Truth Social: Governor Tim Walz called me with the request to work together with respect to Minnesota. It was a very good call, and we, actually, seemed to be on a similar wavelength. I told Governor Walz that I would have Tom Homan call him, and that what we are looking for are any and all Criminals that they have in their possession. The Governor, very respectfully, understood that, and I will be speaking to him in the near future. He was happy that Tom Homan was going to Minnesota, and so am I! We have had such tremendous SUCCESS in Washington, D.C., Memphis, Tennessee, and New Orleans, Louisiana, and virtually every other place that we have “touched” and, even in Minnesota, Crime is way down, but both Governor Walz and I want to make it better! PRESIDENT DONALD J. TRUMP This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up Republicans are coming to there’s as well. This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up Didn’t see this one coming. He was the attorney who defended the ice agent who killed Goode. This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up Quote
mat Posted 1 hour ago Report Posted 1 hour ago 2 hours ago, DCT said: This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up In order for ice to withdraw,Minnesota must turn over voter rolls. This kinda makes your theory mute. Sounds political and extortion. I thought this was about removing illegals? 🌊 Good point but this sounds like a chess move. Puts the ball in Waltz’s court. Quote
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