Government Shutdown

[Reagan]

16 minutes ago, DCT said:

I’ll make it simple.  Trump owns this shut down.

No he doesn’t!  Stop being silly!

[thetragichippy]

25 minutes ago, Boyz N Da Hood said:

Have you read everything and agree with what the R's are all voting yes on? Or is it "we just need to open the government and we'll fix this at that point" lol

It is a clean resolution to keep the Government open....adds nothing

[LumRaiderFan]

22 minutes ago, DCT said:

I’ll make it simple.  Trump owns this shut down.

Make it simple, explain exactly what Trump held out on AND what democrats wouldn’t give on that got us here.

Lay it out if it’s that simple.

[Boyz N Da Hood]

4 minutes ago, thetragichippy said:

It is a clean resolution to keep the Government open....adds nothing

That's what we're being told... you trust what they're saying? 

Government shutdown is good right? Saving $ according to those "in the know"

Polls show its the R's fault... Last I seen was somewhere around 40% say R's, 30% say D's the rest say both

Setx forum says Schumer LMAO

[OlDawg]

52 minutes ago, UT alum said:

Nice academic argument. Worker safety and fair pay? Private sector abused the fire out of their responsibilities. If the fair market is so ‘fair”, why were workers compensation and wage laws necessary? Unions would not have needed to organize were workers not abused mercilessly. Why were product safety laws needed? The invisible hand places profit above all else. If mankind was altruistic, that might work. But we’re not. 

We're talking public sector/government civil service sector here. None of what you mention has anything to do with that...as usual. But, you love red herrings, don't you?

[OlDawg]

1 hour ago, DCT said:

How does a $40 billion dollar bail out benefit the U.S.?  Does it help US farmers? Is it bringing prices down?

Agree. This money could be better spent elsewhere. Nothing but political bribery.

[baddog]

This same bill has been voted for by democrats 13 times before. It’s simply a patch. Some people are really dense.

[Boyz N Da Hood]

1 hour ago, DCT said:

How does a $40 billion dollar bail out benefit the U.S.?  Does it help US farmers? Is it bringing prices down?

 

5 minutes ago, OlDawg said:

Agree. This money could be better spent elsewhere. Nothing but political bribery.

Yall making to much sense man!

[OlDawg]

Q. Maybe the best thing to come out of this shutdown?

A. The Fed may actually have to use more accurate, private sector data for their next meeting.

[baddog]

Of course, if we had total control of congress, we could go behind closed doors and sign it before anyone can read it, like Pelosi did……remember???? That makes sense huh?

[baddog]

Here ya go….

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[baddog]

I think we need to keep paying our military. Trump has already promised them back pay when this is over.

[DCT]

On 10/16/2025 at 3:26 PM, Reagan said:

No he doesn’t!  Stop being silly!

Sir, I’m afraid he does. He may try to distance himself from it but he owns it.

[thetragichippy]

The defense funding bill — including a military pay raise — fell far short of the 60 votes needed to advance. All but three Democrats opposed the move by Republicans to open debate on the bill. It failed in a 50-44 vote, as many Democrats argued the Senate should instead focus on a deal to end the shutdown.

 

So the Democrats don't want to fund the Military......That is a great look.....

Remember - Every vote of NO, is a vote not to the end the shutdown......

 

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[DCT]

5 minutes ago, thetragichippy said:

The defense funding bill — including a military pay raise — fell far short of the 60 votes needed to advance. All but three Democrats opposed the move by Republicans to open debate on the bill. It failed in a 50-44 vote, as many Democrats argued the Senate should instead focus on a deal to end the shutdown.

 

So the Democrats don't want to fund the Military......That is a great look.....

Remember - Every vote of NO, is a vote not to the end the shutdown......

 

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[thetragichippy]

2 minutes ago, DCT said:

whether it’s colleges and universities, Jimmy Kimmel, James Comey, John Bolton, Letitia James or random people who merely look like they might be guilty of  an offense.

He did nothing to Kimmel but voice his opinion (free speech right?)

The other folks - either they did it or they didn't......

And if you didn't express outrage when they went after Trump and everyone else, it's really hard to take you seriously.

Should Trump be mad that they threatened to jail his Son for the rest of his life? You have kids? I would absolutely go after anyone who tried to harm my kids......  
 

[DCT]

5 minutes ago, DCT said:

 

Millions of lives are at stake if we don’t replace Obama Care with something. 

[DCT]

1 minute ago, thetragichippy said:

He did nothing to Kimmel but voice his opinion (free speech right?)

The other folks - either they did it or they didn't......

And if you didn't express outrage when they went after Trump and everyone else, it's really hard to take you seriously.

Should Trump be mad that they threatened to jail his Son for the rest of his life? You have kids? I would absolutely go after anyone who tried to harm my kids......  
 

I moved it to the correct thread.  My apologies again.

[LumRaiderFan]

Just now, DCT said:

Millions of lives are at stake if we don’t replace Obama Care with something. 

lol, sad that someone in law enforcement has bought in to the fear mongering.

The federal government is no one’s savior.

[thetragichippy]

8 minutes ago, DCT said:

Millions of lives are at stake if we don’t replace Obama Care with something. 

We actually agree with this.

I have no issue expanding Medicare or Medicaid. Let them handle everyone with pre-existing conditions or folks that can't afford private insurance. That is what drove up the cost of private insurances.  Then folks WITHOUT pre-existing conditions could apply with private insurance companies that won't accept pre-existing conditions and have much lower rates. 

Now, what do you do with the folks not responsible enough to pay for insurance or simply don't want insurance?