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tvc184 Posted 4 hours ago Report Posted 4 hours ago I agree with the deputy constable. What the district did was inappropriate at best. When I was in detectives I investigated sex crimes and child victims for a couple of years. I have seen school districts obstruct investigations or try to influence the outcome. The outcome being, no bad publicity at the expense of the school. There is absolutely no reason to bring a reported victim, especially a child, into a room with the suspect and have the principal in the room running the investigation. That is unbelievable. Not so strangely, I have witnessed that exact attempt. My partner and I were investigating a sexual offense with a student being the suspect. We went to the school and had them bring the student out of class to speak with us for a felony. We attempted to interview the student at the school so it’s not to disrupt his day any more than necessary. A school representative said that is okay however they would get to sit in and listen to the investigation. Uhhhhh……. No. The school’s response was that they would not allow us to interview the student then. The solution was simple enough, we simply removed him from the school and brought him to the police station, making him lose a significant amount of time. The interviews of witnesses, the victim, and if agreed to, the suspect, are private interactions and should not be viewed by anyone except the Police conducting interview. The school districts should not be involved in criminal investigations or interfere in criminal investigations. On another occasion, I was working security at a high school and witnessed a student assault another student while a teacher was standing between them trying to stop it. The suspect reached over the teacher and punched the other student in the face. My partner and I had a suspect in handcuffs in about 10 seconds. What was the school district’s response? To try to get us to drop the charges, un-arrest the suspect allowing him to walk away and let the school handle it internally. Certainly, that way it would not make the news media. The school interjected themselves into speaking on behalf of the victim in the crime, which they had absolutely no authority to do. The victim or his family might tell the DA that they didn’t want to follow through with charges but that is of no business of the school. Nope….. the suspect went to jail. I assisted my partner on a case he was working against a school teacher. The teacher got mad and threw a heavy set of car keys, striking a student in the eye. He ended up going to the hospital. The school stepped in and told if us that they would not allow the teacher to speak with us. The teacher is not required to speak with the police and could claim her right to remain silent and her right to an attorney. The odd thing was the school district stepping in and taking part in it by telling the teacher not to tell her side of the story. She very well might not have talked to us however but why was the school district stepping in to back up a teacher when the victim student was in the hospital? I could go on but hopefully that paints a picture. I understand them not wanting to air their dirty laundry in the public. Working for a police department, I have seen the same. In the case of a school district however the main focus should be the protection of students. Sadly that may be compromised where the student is thrown under the bus to protect the school. Those are anecdotal cases and hopefully most districts now will not allow worrying about bad press interfere with the safety of the students. Sometimes I wonder though. In my examples the cases were more than 20 years ago. Is it still happening today? This article…….. thetragichippy 1 Quote
thetragichippy Posted 3 hours ago Report Posted 3 hours ago 20 minutes ago, tvc184 said: I was working security at a high school and witnessed a student assault another student while a teacher was standing between them trying to stop it. The suspect reached over the teacher and punched the other student in the face. My partner and I had a suspect in handcuffs in about 10 seconds. I struggle with this. I know times have changed, but the fights I had from elementary through high school taught me lots of life lessons.. I remember at Edison before it came to blows, I knew I was probably going to lose AND get licks from the coach......and I was right on BOTH predictions.....lol Quote
tvc184 Posted 3 hours ago Report Posted 3 hours ago 7 minutes ago, thetragichippy said: I struggle with this. I know times have changed, but the fights I had from elementary through high school taught me lots of life lessons.. I remember at Edison before it came to blows, I knew I was probably going to lose AND get licks from the coach......and I was right on BOTH predictions.....lol Had it been a fight, we would have separated them and let the school have it This was a bigger kid trying to beat down another student with a teacher standing in between them trying to protect the victim who wanted no part of the confrontation. The bully reached over the teacher and clobbered the other student in the face. Quote
thetragichippy Posted 3 hours ago Report Posted 3 hours ago 6 minutes ago, tvc184 said: Had it been a fight, we would have separated them and let the school have it This was a bigger kid trying to beat down another student with a teacher standing in between them trying to protect the victim who wanted no part of the confrontation. The bully reached over the teacher and clobbered the other student in the face. oh, I see, big difference! tvc184 1 Quote
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