Hamshire-Fannett (49) @ Vidor (28) - FINAL

[BBtater984]

5 minutes ago, 89Falcon said:

Who do you think they would beat if they were currently "energized"? 

Good lawd man…. Right now it’s not about who do I think they would beat. Right now it’s about building the programs numbers. Building support from the community. Being competitive from start to finish. Play 4qtrs of football in all 3 phases of the game.

[kirkwood29]

7 hours ago, BBfan061 said:

Send them to Bellville if they wanna run right and run left and win some games 🤣             !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Or send them to Hardin, who is historically one of the worst football programs in the state, along with Kountze, Vidor and others.

However, a couple years ago, they decided to just "run right and run left" and things have kind of turned in their favor.

9 hours ago, BBtater984 said:

Yes. Those kids are good too... but from the rumblings on the streets, I wouldn't be surprised if a few of them quit football and stick to baseball and basketball. And the kids who would be the ones to quit are skill players. Honestly, I don't blame them. Who wants to run right and left all game and get beaten down game after game?

And before people get on here and talk about "the spread"... I'll be the first to say Vidor does not need to be a spread offensive team. Does that mean we have to stick with the slot-t, no? There are plenty of offensive variations where you can still be a run-heavy team. 

 

[89Falcon]

37 minutes ago, kirkwood29 said:

Or send them to Hardin, who is historically one of the worst football programs in the state, along with Kountze, Vidor and others.

However, a couple years ago, they decided to just "run right and run left" and things have kind of turned in their favor.

 

Will be interesting to see how it looks for Hardin in 2026. 😉

[89Falcon]

44 minutes ago, BBtater984 said:

Good lawd man…. Right now it’s not about who do I think they would beat. Right now it’s about building the programs numbers. Building support from the community. Being competitive from start to finish. Play 4qtrs of football in all 3 phases of the game.

Got it. You are just speculating how you "wish it could be", not really knowing the talent level in comparison to the competition. 

[BBtater984]

17 minutes ago, 89Falcon said:

Got it. You are just speculating how you "wish it could be", not really knowing the talent level in comparison to the competition. 

The lights are on but nobody is home, huh? 🤦🏼‍♂️ 

Why doesn’t it matter to you if Vidor wants change or if a change brings the number back up on the field and in the stands or if a change motivates the current players?!? 

Does Vidors HC have incriminating evidence against you or something? 🤔

A coaching change has done good for some area teams like OF, BC, LCM, and I’m sure I’m forgetting a couple other teams. Those coaches came and got the kids to buy in to their culture and so far it’s working pretty good. Also, those teams that I mentioned are NOT leaps and bounds better than Vidor when it comes to talent to levels. 

[89Falcon]

10 hours ago, BBtater984 said:

The lights are on but nobody is home, huh? 🤦🏼‍♂️ 

Why doesn’t it matter to you if Vidor wants change or if a change brings the number back up on the field and in the stands or if a change motivates the current players?!? 

Does Vidors HC have incriminating evidence against you or something? 🤔

A coaching change has done good for some area teams like OF, BC, LCM, and I’m sure I’m forgetting a couple other teams. Those coaches came and got the kids to buy in to their culture and so far it’s working pretty good. Also, those teams that I mentioned are NOT leaps and bounds better than Vidor when it comes to talent to levels. 

Understood, for every coaching change that worked there is one that didn’t work. Vidor will remain in a state where they can be competitive on occasion but will be mediocre to bad most years and it will not matter who is the coach. 
 

You are not alone in your logic. Stands are full of folks who believe the same. Coldspring, Woodville and others all wanted new coaches to “energize” the programs with new innovative offenses. 

[BBtater984]

23 minutes ago, 89Falcon said:

Understood, for every coaching change that worked there is one that didn’t work. Vidor will remain in a state where they can be competitive on occasion but will be mediocre to bad most years and it will not matter who is the coach. 
 

You are not alone in your logic. Stands are full of folks who believe the same. Coldspring, Woodville and others all wanted new coaches to “energize” the programs with new innovative offenses. 

That can be said for just about any and everything. For every successful business, there are double, triple the number of failed businesses... but those people that failed... does that make them any less, cause their business failed?!?! No. Absolutely not.

But I ask you again, why does it matter to you if the players and football supporters in Vidor want a coaching change?!?! Shouldn't have any effect on your far superior huffman football team. 

[Reagan]

Anyone here think if Vidor had PNG's coaching staff we'd be having this discussion?  BTW -- Vidor had a golden opportunity to right the ship 2-3 years ago.  But what did they do?!  Well, you know!  Would they/could they have got a championship coach?  Maybe not.  But does it mean you stop trying?  Hanging on to a losing coach for 22 years doesn't instill confidence that Vidor is serious about their football program.  

[PolkHighLegend]

4 hours ago, BBtater984 said:

That can be said for just about any and everything. For every successful business, there are double, triple the number of failed businesses... but those people that failed... does that make them any less, cause their business failed?!?! No. Absolutely not.

But I ask you again, why does it matter to you if the players and football supporters in Vidor want a coaching change?!?! Shouldn't have any effect on your far superior huffman football team. 

I've read on here multiple times and will repeat it again 89Falcon isn't from Huffman. Carry on.

[BBtater984]

8 minutes ago, PolkHighLegend said:

I've read on here multiple times and will repeat it again 89Falcon isn't from Huffman. Carry on.

Ok cool. Thanks. 

[89Falcon]

19 minutes ago, Reagan said:

Anyone here think if Vidor had PNG's coaching staff we'd be having this discussion?  BTW -- Vidor had a golden opportunity to right the ship 2-3 years ago.  But what did they do?!  Well, you know!  Would they/could they have got a championship coach?  Maybe not.  But does it mean you stop trying?  Hanging on to a losing coach for 22 years doesn't instill confidence that Vidor is serious about their football program.  

Has PNG been similar to Vidor in terms of talent?

[BBtater984]

29 minutes ago, Reagan said:

Anyone here think if Vidor had PNG's coaching staff we'd be having this discussion?  BTW -- Vidor had a golden opportunity to right the ship 2-3 years ago.  But what did they do?!  Well, you know!  Would they/could they have got a championship coach?  Maybe not.  But does it mean you stop trying?  Hanging on to a losing coach for 22 years doesn't instill confidence that Vidor is serious about their football program.  

I'm hoping that the boos get loud enough, and enough people speak up to the right people (SB & SI).  Maybe then those people in decision-making roles will start taking the football program a bit more seriously. 

[Reagan]

8 minutes ago, 89Falcon said:

Has PNG been similar to Vidor in terms of talent?

First, you can blame the kids all you want.  I stay away from that.  Second, you don't think PNG staff would make a difference?  

[BBtater984]

10 minutes ago, 89Falcon said:

Has PNG been similar to Vidor in terms of talent?

No. 

Vidor does not have a graduate playing in the NFL. 

Vidor has not had a QB make it to the NFL. 

Vidor does not have an O-Lineman playing D1 (Power 5) football.

[Reagan]

5 minutes ago, BBtater984 said:

No. 

Vidor does not have a graduate playing in the NFL. 

Vidor has not had a QB make it to the NFL. 

Vidor does not have an O-Lineman playing D1 (Power 5) football.

Curious:  You think any of this would have happened if the present Vidor coach was coaching  them?

[BBtater984]

10 minutes ago, Reagan said:

Curious:  You think any of this would have happened if the present Vidor coach was coaching  them?

Do I think those players make it as far with Vidor's current coaches?

No.

Dustin Long is not making it to a&m to play QB throwing the ball 3-5 times a game.

Roschon Johnson is not making it to UT to play QB throwing the ball 3-5 times a game. Roschon would have been recruited as a RB. 

The O-lineman is not making it to UT only knowing how to run block.

[89Falcon]

20 minutes ago, BBtater984 said:

Do I think those players make it as far with Vidor's current coaches?

No.

Dustin Long is not making it to a&m to play QB throwing the ball 3-5 times a game.

Roschon Johnson is not making it to UT to play QB throwing the ball 3-5 times a game. Roschon would have been recruited as a RB. 

The O-lineman is not making it to UT only knowing how to run block.

D1 players make D1 regardless of the high school position they play or the style of offense/defense. Could make an endless list of examples.