Charlie Kirk Shot

[LumRaiderFan]

33 minutes ago, Reagan said:

@baddog  @LumRaiderFan  @OlDawg     What do ya'll think?  I possibly see something. Still kinda grainy.  But that may be it.

Looks like what could easily be a rifle in a case or bag.

[baddog]

50 minutes ago, LumRaiderFan said:

Looks like what could easily be a rifle in a case or bag.

I see what you are saying. Please watch especially close when he picks the bag up off the ground after jumping off the roof. The rifle is 3 1/2 feet long. The bag flexes quite a bit to have a rigid rifle in it. I’m sure the grainy video doesn’t help. I’ve been wrong before. Just what my eyes and brain are seeing.

[OlDawg]

2 hours ago, Reagan said:

@baddog  @LumRaiderFan  @OlDawg     What do ya'll think?  I possibly see something. Still kinda grainy.  But that may be it.

Looks like he put something in a ledge/gutter with one hand, climbed on edge of ledge, dropped whatever it was, jumped down, and then retrieved and ran. Since the authorities found the rifle in the woods, I’d make the assumption that was it. I said it wasn’t in his pants leg first thing.

[Reagan]

2 hours ago, AggiesAreWe said:

So you saying Trump lied to us?

I originally thought the Deep State may have got him when I couldn't see the gun.  Unfortunately they are alive and well!  

[LumRaiderFan]

48 minutes ago, baddog said:

I see what you are saying. Please watch especially close when he picks the bag up off the ground after jumping off the roof. The rifle is 3 1/2 feet long. The bag flexes quite a bit to have a rigid rifle in it. I’m sure the grainy video doesn’t help. I’ve been wrong before. Just what my eyes and brain are seeing.

Video is poor but it just makes sense that what he has is the rifle, to me, anyway.

What would have made more sense was to acquire a rifle not connected to the shooter and leave it, but it’s been confirmed we’re not dealing with a pro here.

[Reagan]

He was bragging to a co-worker while working as an electrician about being able to shoot 400 yards.  Curious if his family are hunters.  Was this their Mauser?  If not, where did he get it.  And where was he practicing.  He had to be.  200 yard shot with a 5 mile and hour cross wind.    

[Reagan]

5 minutes ago, LumRaiderFan said:

Video is poor but it just makes sense that what he has is the rifle, to me, anyway.

What would have made more sense was to acquire a rifle not connected to the shooter and leave it, but it’s been confirmed we’re not dealing with a pro here.

First, I thought he was a dumb arse.  Why?  He wore the same tennis shoes to the shoot as in a pic in his room.  Then, you would think he would try to be stealthy, but on a white roof top, he wears a black shirt with blue jeans.  Then I find out he has a 4.0 gpa.  So, not really sure what to think of that!  

[OlDawg]

3 minutes ago, Reagan said:

First, I thought he was a dumb arse.  Why?  He wore the same tennis shoes to the shoot as in a pic in his room.  Then, you would think he would try to be stealthy, but on a white roof top, he wears a black shirt with blue jeans.  Then I find out he has a 4.0 gpa.  So, not really sure what to think of that!  

I’ve met a lot of really smart stupid people. Worked with more than a few.

[LumRaiderFan]

9 minutes ago, Reagan said:

First, I thought he was a dumb arse.  Why?  He wore the same tennis shoes to the shoot as in a pic in his room.  Then, you would think he would try to be stealthy, but on a white roof top, he wears a black shirt with blue jeans.  Then I find out he has a 4.0 gpa.  So, not really sure what to think of that!  

Educated doesn’t always make you a good criminal, and dumb never does.

You have to formulate a plan that later on countless folks that are very smart are figuring out, almost impossible.

[LumRaiderFan]

16 minutes ago, Reagan said:

He was bragging to a co-worker while working as an electrician about being able to shoot 400 yards.  Curious if his family are hunters.  Was this their Mauser?  If not, where did he get it.  And where was he practicing.  He had to be.  200 yard shot with a 5 mile and hour cross wind.    

200 yard shot on a range is a very easy shot to group well.  I’m sure this situation was different, I can’t even imagine.

[Reagan]

From 7 seconds to 28 seconds, is he walking to get ready to shoot?  If so, again, where's the gun.  Or is this a different time?  

[Reagan]

1 hour ago, baddog said:

I see what you are saying. Please watch especially close when he picks the bag up off the ground after jumping off the roof. The rifle is 3 1/2 feet long. The bag flexes quite a bit to have a rigid rifle in it. I’m sure the grainy video doesn’t help. I’ve been wrong before. Just what my eyes and brain are seeing.

I went and watched it again.  And you are right, whatever it is it flexes.  Guns don't flex.  So, I don't know. 

[SmashMouth]

On 9/13/2025 at 12:18 PM, Big girl said:

Question. My son watched the shooting  and is absolutely devastated. He didnt sleep the firs tnoght. Does anyone know how I can help him get past this. He didnt agree with Charlie, but he doesn't believe that he deserved to die

I’m going to assume he is school aged. Tell your son that evil exists. Stay away from it. Tell him to do what he knows is right, to stay away from bad kids and listen to his mama. Tell him to seek knowledge and read a lot. Tell him hurting ANYONE over things they say is never OK no matter what. Most importantly, tell him if he drapes himself with the love of Jesus Christ, he will have eternal life in Heaven. 

[Reagan]

26 minutes ago, Reagan said:

From 7 seconds to 28 seconds, is he walking to get ready to shoot?  If so, again, where's the gun.  Or is this a different time?  

@bullets13  Tell me what you think?!  

PS -- of the pics of him, why screen shots?  Why not show us the actual video?  

@LumRaiderFan  @baddog  @OlDawg       Watch the first 28 seconds.

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[SmashMouth]

30 minutes ago, Reagan said:

He was bragging to a co-worker while working as an electrician about being able to shoot 400 yards.  Curious if his family are hunters.  Was this their Mauser?  If not, where did he get it.  And where was he practicing.  He had to be.  200 yard shot with a 5 mile and hour cross wind.    

It’s not a very difficult shot. If he was aiming for the head (which makes sense), it was only a fair shot. Nothing spectacular. I had my son grouping within 1-1/2” of a bullseye at about 150 yards before he turned 12. Deer Hunters shoot 150 to 200 yard shots all the time. Sometimes a lot further. 

[Reagan]

10 minutes ago, SmashMouth said:

It’s not a very difficult shot. If he was aiming for the head (which makes sense), it was only a fair shot. Nothing spectacular. I had my son grouping within 1-1/2” of a bullseye at about 150 yards before he turned 12. Deer Hunters shoot 150 to 200 yard shots all the time. Sometimes a lot further. 

Oh, I'm sure it's true what you are saying.  But, do you think it would make a difference if you are about to kill a human being?  

[SmashMouth]

12 minutes ago, Reagan said:

Oh, I'm sure it's true what you are saying.  But, do you think it would make a difference if you are about to kill a human being?  

Not if you’re effing crazy. 

[LumRaiderFan]

28 minutes ago, SmashMouth said:

I’m going to assume he is school aged. Tell your son that evil exists. Stay away from it. Tell him to do what he knows is right, to stay away from bad kids and listen to his mama. Tell him to seek knowledge and read a lot. Tell him hurting ANYONE over things they say is never OK no matter what. Most importantly, tell him if he drapes himself with the love of Jesus Christ, he will have eternal life in Heaven. 

This is, I believe, the same answer Charlie Kirk would have given in a distressful situation.

[SmashMouth]

12 minutes ago, Reagan said:

Oh, I'm sure it's true what you are saying.  But, do you think it would make a difference if you are about to kill a human being?  

If you hunt, there’s a thing called buck fever. I’m 58 and I still get it. My heart starts beating through my ears. My hands shake, and I can barely think. But if I take just a few seconds, relax my breathing and focus, I can shoot a deer every time right where I’m aiming.

[bullets13]

1 hour ago, LumRaiderFan said:

200 yard shot on a range is a very easy shot to group well.  I’m sure this situation was different, I can’t even imagine.

Absolutely. Awhile back I had my wife in the red at 200 yds in half a box of shells, and she’d fired exactly one bullet from a rifle before that time in her whole life. This kidad’s dad is a cop. Good chance he grew up hinting, great chance he grew up shooting. 

 

[bullets13]

1 hour ago, Reagan said:

He was bragging to a co-worker while working as an electrician about being able to shoot 400 yards.  Curious if his family are hunters.  Was this their Mauser?  If not, where did he get it.  And where was he practicing.  He had to be.  200 yard shot with a 5 mile and hour cross wind.    

Like others have mentioned, 200 yds is a relatively easy shot for a lot of people. With the right scope it’s reaaaaallly easy. Awhile back I hit a plate at 200 yds 3 shots in a row with a Thompson Center Contender PISTOL that I’d never shot that had a good scope on it. Also, at the distance he was shooting a 5 mph crosswind isn’t a factor at all. 

[bullets13]

51 minutes ago, Reagan said:

Oh, I'm sure it's true what you are saying.  But, do you think it would make a difference if you are about to kill a human being?  

I think it probably would, if you weren’t used to that sort of thing. Which might account for why he missed where he was shooting. It’s a very safe bet he was aiming for the head or the chest and made a bad shot and got lucky. And it’s 100% that if it were a pro taking the shot they would’ve never aimed where Kirk was hit. Why aim for a low % target when center mass is a guaranteed hit, and the head is a guaranteed kill (and bigger target than the neck)?