head13 Posted August 19, 2024 Report Posted August 19, 2024 I agree with that but you can make sure they show up on time , act right in class and be a respectful young person . That’s not hard to manager . You also can’t be scared to do what’s right because what’s right is right . Hold them accountable by running them or their teammates when they don’t do what they are supposed to do . You have to have some sort of accountability or these kids will run all over you . My son can be coached anyway a coach feels he needs to be coached . Quote
Right99JOH Posted August 19, 2024 Author Report Posted August 19, 2024 On 8/19/2024 at 2:34 PM, head13 said: I agree with that but you can make sure they show up on time , act right in class and be a respectful young person . That’s not hard to manager . You also can’t be scared to do what’s right because what’s right is right . Hold them accountable by running them or their teammates when they don’t do what they are supposed to do . You have to have some sort of accountability or these kids will run all over you . My son can be coached anyway a coach feels he needs to be coached . Expand Do that with kids now and you'll have kids quitting, mom and dad in your office, etc... you CANNOT coach kids now like you would have 20+ yrs ago. Too many UIL stipulations, too many soft a$$ kids, too many moms and dads know more than the coach. Mr. Buddy Garrity, setxathlete14, head13 and 1 other 4 Quote
bullets13 Posted August 19, 2024 Report Posted August 19, 2024 On 8/19/2024 at 3:43 PM, Right99JOH said: Do that with kids now and you'll have kids quitting, mom and dad in your office, etc... you CANNOT coach kids now like you would have 20+ yrs ago. Too many UIL stipulations, too many soft a$$ kids, too many moms and dads know more than the coach. Expand that's what makes it so special when a coach gets the full backing of his community. Surratt doesn't have to deal with this, guaranteed. And if one parent makes waves, the rest of the community backs the coach. Pretty rare these days. Although to be fair, coach treatment of players often went too far the other way back in the day. Mr. Buddy Garrity 1 Quote
Right99JOH Posted August 19, 2024 Author Report Posted August 19, 2024 On 8/19/2024 at 6:08 PM, bullets13 said: that's what makes it so special when a coach gets the full backing of his community. Surratt doesn't have to deal with this, guaranteed. And if one parent makes waves, the rest of the community backs the coach. Pretty rare these days. Although to be fair, coach treatment of players often went too far the other way back in the day. Expand That is true, but you know all it takes is one ripple from the right parent and others fall in line. After the success Lumberton had the past few years, let them hit a rough patch and then that backing of the coach is not so backing. Mr. Buddy Garrity 1 Quote
bullets13 Posted August 19, 2024 Report Posted August 19, 2024 On 8/19/2024 at 6:23 PM, Right99JOH said: That is true, but you know all it takes is one ripple from the right parent and others fall in line. After the success Lumberton had the past few years, let them hit a rough patch and then that backing of the coach is not so backing. Expand doesn't really sound like Reyes ever had the backing to begin with based on several of the posts i'm seeing here. which is a shame, as he did a pretty good job over there, despite not doing things how the parents wanted them done. Quote
Right99JOH Posted August 19, 2024 Author Report Posted August 19, 2024 On 8/19/2024 at 6:28 PM, bullets13 said: doesn't really sound like Reyes ever had the backing to begin with based on several of the posts i'm seeing here. which is a shame, as he did a pretty good job over there, despite not doing things how the parents wanted them done. Expand Too many parents know more than coaches these days because they coached little league, and they know what's best for their kid or team. Sit back and let the ones who are getting paid to coach do their job, but that will never happen. bullets13 1 Quote
BEARCPA Posted August 19, 2024 Report Posted August 19, 2024 On 8/19/2024 at 6:42 PM, Right99JOH said: Too many parents know more than coaches these days because they coached little league, and they know what's best for their kid or team. Sit back and let the ones who are getting paid to coach do their job, but that will never happen. Expand Yepp, and kids that aren't coachable and accountable are usually always that way because of their parents. Coaches get the short end of the stick and have to play the had they're dealt. Quote
SmashMouth Posted August 20, 2024 Report Posted August 20, 2024 On 8/19/2024 at 8:22 PM, BEARCPA said: Yepp, and kids that aren't coachable and accountable are usually always that way because of their parents. Coaches get the short end of the stick and have to play the had they're dealt. Expand That was not the case with Reyes issues. The backing of the coach was mixed. This was a stepping stone, and it was apparent. I'll leave it at that. Quote
Mr. Buddy Garrity Posted August 20, 2024 Report Posted August 20, 2024 On 8/20/2024 at 5:54 PM, SmashMouth said: That was not the case with Reyes issues. The backing of the coach was mixed. This was a stepping stone, and it was apparent. I'll leave it at that. Expand Some folks thought he wasn't committed long-term to the program? Quote
SmashMouth Posted August 20, 2024 Report Posted August 20, 2024 On 8/20/2024 at 6:47 PM, Mr. Buddy Garrity said: Some folks thought he wasn't committed long-term to the program? Expand True. I can’t blame him for that though. That wasn’t my specific issue. Mr. Buddy Garrity 1 Quote
pine curtain Posted August 21, 2024 Report Posted August 21, 2024 On 8/19/2024 at 6:42 PM, Right99JOH said: Too many parents know more than coaches these days because they coached little league, and they know what's best for their kid or team. Sit back and let the ones who are getting paid to coach do their job, but that will never happen. Expand Would not be the first coach the parents at Lumberton has ran off. They have gotten pretty good at it. Right99JOH 1 Quote
pine curtain Posted August 21, 2024 Report Posted August 21, 2024 On 8/19/2024 at 2:15 PM, Rocket_Man said: New to the area, who are the standouts in Lumberton returning from last year? Expand Raidergirl is their star player...... Mr. Buddy Garrity 1 Quote
Right99JOH Posted August 21, 2024 Author Report Posted August 21, 2024 On 8/21/2024 at 1:18 AM, pine curtain said: Would not be the first coach the parents at Lumberton has ran off. They have gotten pretty good at it. Expand I have a feeling this coach walked into a ticking timebomb. After having success the past couple, few years.... all its going to take is for the raiders to have a couple bad games and the Lumberton faithful will be calling for his head. Quote
AggiesAreWe Posted August 21, 2024 Report Posted August 21, 2024 On 8/21/2024 at 12:41 PM, Right99JOH said: I have a feeling this coach walked into a ticking timebomb. After having success the past couple, few years.... all its going to take is for the raiders to have a couple bad games and the Lumberton faithful will be calling for his head. Expand This coach (McDonald) has been on staff for several years now at Lumberton. He is who the vast majority of the supporters wanted to get the job. I believe he will do just fine and will be given time to have success. SmashMouth 1 Quote
Right99JOH Posted August 21, 2024 Author Report Posted August 21, 2024 On 8/21/2024 at 1:26 PM, AggiesAreWe said: This coach (McDonald) has been on staff for several years now at Lumberton. He is who the vast majority of the supporters wanted to get the job. I believe he will do just fine and will be given time to have success. Expand Things are a little different now that he is in the spotlight... NO one is given time these days. Win and win now! Quote
AggiesAreWe Posted August 21, 2024 Report Posted August 21, 2024 On 8/21/2024 at 1:32 PM, Right99JOH said: Things are a little different now that he is in the spotlight... NO one is given time these days. Win and win now! Expand That wasn't the case for your coach Mathews. How long was he at Vidor? I can name several coaches that have been at a school for many years who aren't "winning now". Quote
Right99JOH Posted August 21, 2024 Author Report Posted August 21, 2024 On 8/21/2024 at 2:03 PM, AggiesAreWe said: That wasn't the case for your coach Mathews. How long was he at Vidor? I can name several coaches that have been at a school for many years who aren't "winning now". Expand Look at the coaches records prior to Mathews... compared to those... he was winning. Quote
AggiesAreWe Posted August 21, 2024 Report Posted August 21, 2024 On 8/21/2024 at 2:18 PM, Right99JOH said: Look at the coaches records prior to Mathews... compared to those... he was winning. Expand Pretty sure Mathews overall record is under .500. My point being he was there for many years and endured a many a losing season. The "win now" is not the case at many schools. Quote
Right99JOH Posted August 21, 2024 Author Report Posted August 21, 2024 On 8/21/2024 at 2:48 PM, AggiesAreWe said: Pretty sure Mathews overall record is under .500. My point being he was there for many years and endured a many a losing season. The "win now" is not the case at many schools. Expand I know for a fact that Mathews record is leaps and bounds better than the previous coaches (Law, Murphy, Johnson) that where at Vidor. Those 3 coaches combined probably does not have the record Mathews had... BUT Law and Murphy both coaches when Vidor was still in 5A playing with the likes of WB, Central, North Shore, Baytown Lee & Sterling, LaPorte, etc... My point is that recent success can change the way a fanbase views a program. Are they expecting the same results from day 1 or are they ok with a slide down a notch or two? Quote
Excoach1970 Posted August 21, 2024 Report Posted August 21, 2024 On 8/21/2024 at 12:41 PM, Right99JOH said: I have a feeling this coach walked into a ticking timebomb. After having success the past couple, few years.... all its going to take is for the raiders to have a couple bad games and the Lumberton faithful will be calling for his head. Expand What was Lumberton’s record the first 3 games last year ? Quote
Right99JOH Posted August 21, 2024 Author Report Posted August 21, 2024 On 8/21/2024 at 3:13 PM, Excoach1970 said: What was Lumberton’s record the first 3 games last year ? Expand No clue. *Non district doesn't mean much... District is what counts. Quote
BBfan061 Posted August 21, 2024 Report Posted August 21, 2024 On 8/21/2024 at 3:16 PM, Right99JOH said: No clue. *Non district doesn't mean much... District is what counts. Expand While I agree BUT let’s not forget it’s not like they were in the toughest district either… Quote
Right99JOH Posted August 21, 2024 Author Report Posted August 21, 2024 On 8/21/2024 at 3:20 PM, BBfan061 said: While I agree BUT let’s not forget it’s not like they were in the toughest district either… Expand Lumberton's district is consistently on the weaker side. Every few years one team will make it a few rounds deep. All teams in that district are chasing one thing.... District Championships. All the teams in that district know they are not state contenders. Quote
Excoach1970 Posted August 21, 2024 Report Posted August 21, 2024 On 8/21/2024 at 3:26 PM, Right99JOH said: Lumberton's district is consistently on the weaker side. Every few years one team will make it a few rounds deep. All teams in that district are chasing one thing.... District Championships. All the teams in that district know they are not state contenders. Expand Well you said if they have a couple of bad games, last year they started off 0-3 on the season. Quote
Right99JOH Posted August 21, 2024 Author Report Posted August 21, 2024 On 8/21/2024 at 3:28 PM, Excoach1970 said: Well you said if they have a couple of bad games, last year they started off 0-3 on the season. Expand Sorry, I should have spelt it out better for you.... If they have a couple bad games in district. I thought that would have been self-explanatory cause that district is on the weaker side. Quote
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