Battle for players pits BISD football coaches vs. loopholes

[RaiderRed30]

Uh, Plano has 3 high schools now. Plano High, Plano East and Plano West. Each school has an enrollment of 5300+.

When Plano High started exceeding enrollments of 6500-7500, the school district created another high school, Plano East. Then later came Plano West.

I see Allen doing the same if the growth continues like Plano's did.

I was meaning building 9-10 schools. Plano has 6 high schools and 3 seniors. Judson before Wagner use to be known as Judson Junior College.

Allen parents will not vote in favor of multiple high schools. Wouldn't along time ago and still won't. The town wants to win at everything and offer the most. One school gives them that chance. Instead of a new school they built a college stadium that helped 3 or 4 sports.

[AthleticSupporter - Jock]

What would you do with All of the kids who can't get a roster spot?? I hear all these ideas of merging for only one purpose; winning ball games. Just as the economy worsens, the crime goes up, if kids don't have alternatives they are subjected to mischief. I don't care if a kid plays sports at All, but when that opportunity isn't there anymore, what are we going to do for them?? The Moral Fiber of this Nation is Sickening.   JMO

Amen.  I'm not from P.A. but I thought the same thing when they merged into Memorial.  Fewer roster spots means fewer chances for some kids to learn some great life lessons on the gridiron or the court.  I'd rather keep the 3 Bmt schools and give more kids the opportunity to be on the team and contribute. 

[Alpha Wolf]

BISD should have 2 high schools. That way you can draw a clear line in the middle of the two for zone purposes and not allow transfer to the other school and be allowed to play varsity sports without sitting a year. It's too simple though. BISD would never agree too it.

I agree with this totally...

[mytwocents-28]

Okay ill be the "that guy". When did it become the schools responsibility to create enough after school programs to keep the kids busy and keep them out of trouble? Isn't that the parents job???

[Bigcam2903]

Okay ill be the "that guy". When did it become the schools responsibility to create enough after school programs to keep the kids busy and keep them out of trouble? Isn't that the parents job???

We're saying if you're going to merge 3 into one as some stated, obviously you would have less expenses of operating 3 different locations, so why not have a plan I'm place to transition the kids into something to enrich their lives. I'm speaking as a Beaumont taxpayer who cares about the future of out kids, now you can keep "that guy" attitude in Vidor. Some people in Beaumont care about athletics, but know Educational programs are Vital to our children's success. I know you didn't mean anything by your statement, I just want to set the record straight

[mytwocents-28]

We're saying if you're going to merge 3 into one as some stated, obviously you would have less expenses of operating 3 different locations, so why not have a plan I'm place to transition the kids into something to enrich their lives. I'm speaking as a Beaumont taxpayer who cares about the future of out kids, now you can keep "that guy" attitude in Vidor. Some people in Beaumont care about athletics, but know Educational programs are Vital to our children's success. I know you didn't mean anything by your statement, I just want to set the record straight

I hear what your saying cam but you know me. If I feel a certain way then I'm gonna say it. And I understand the whole creating something for the kids who won't have anything due to 200+ spots being taking away by turning 3 teams into one but I'm just missing the part where that went from being the parents responsibility to the schools? And I'm sure if it ever would happen then beaumont would have the usual after school and during school programs. Why wouldnt they?

[Bigcam2903]

MTC, you know you & I have an understanding. I knew what you were saying Bro

[RaiderRed30]

Here's a question if beaumont was to merge into two schools each at around 2600-2700 could Central or Ozen hold that many? I'm seriously asking cause I'm not from here.

Other part is how does central and Ozen get magnet programs to enroll students but west brook has nothing. West Brook is put at a disadvantage there. The whole middle school situation is odd to me because of its setup with students having the option of which high school plus odom. I thought I read where austin is opening back up as an honors school. That would then create 6 plus Austin so why not just set the zone and not have areas where there are options. 2 Middle Schools to 1 High School and austin for honors where students could go then to their home school for high school.

I think two schools would work best especially since right now Ozen only has 1100 yet West Brook 2400 or 2500. Or 1 School but keep the other two as 9-10 schools. Save some costs and makes it easier for students to adjust and play sports as there would be more oppertunities and teams.

[87JAG]

I've said it before and I will say it again. "Freedom of choice" destroyed athletics in Beaumont. When the district allowed parents to choose any school they wanted their child to attend, they destroyed the integrity of athletics. Once upon a time, you had to move to change schools. The article was correct saying that the parents mindset that they can pick any school.

 

Raider BISD had two schools in the past Central and Westbrook. In comes a new superintendent with an old idea of multiple schools. I personally was against the two school because they went from four to two my senior year. It was a superintendent that said the district could save money by closing two school and busing kids. They named a building after him. I was against PA mega school because it hurts the kids scholarship potential. Every school that is opens provides 22 f-ball, 9 b-ball, 5 b-ball, etc. being looked at. That's another valedictorian receiving free tuition in TX. 

[HurricaneCal]

I hear what your saying cam but you know me. If I feel a certain way then I'm gonna say it. And I understand the whole creating something for the kids who won't have anything due to 200+ spots being taking away by turning 3 teams into one but I'm just missing the part where that went from being the parents responsibility to the schools? And I'm sure if it ever would happen then beaumont would have the usual after school and during school programs. Why wouldnt they?

For the kids that have parents involved in their kids lives that's great, but sometimes you're talking about some kids that are living with an elderly grandparent or maybe a single mom with two or three jobs. Those are the kids that need these activities. The entire recruiting kids from the middle school kinda smells bad. Forgive my ignorance, but why West Brook have or get the Magna program so it's a level playing field for all 3?

[BMTSoulja1]

...and with all that being said,West Brook's numbers have remained pretty much the about since the inception of Ozen and the magnet status have been added, which have been well over 10 years.... They also don't seem to drop off on overall athleticism either... West Brook isn't hurting at all...

[AthleticSupporter - Jock]

I think Lumberton, Silsbee and Kountze should merge into one Mega school.  We could call it Big Thicket High School.  A combined enrollment of 2242  (Lumberton 1109, Silsbee 782, Kountze 351).  There would be some good games between PAM, WB and BTHS.

[mytwocents-28]

Yeah buy imagine what wb wouldve done with the likes of jaquet and brown and randle and all the other athletes that have came through beaumont. Plus there own offensive line.

[mytwocents-28]

I think Lumberton, Silsbee and Kountze should merge into one Mega school. We could call it Big Thicket High School. A combined enrollment of 2242 (Lumberton 1109, Silsbee 782, Kountze 351). There would be some good games between PAM, WB and BTHS.

Now that's an idea right there!!!!! Lol.

[AggiesAreWe]

I think Lumberton, Silsbee and Kountze should merge into one Mega school.  We could call it Big Thicket High School.  A combined enrollment of 2242  (Lumberton 1109, Silsbee 782, Kountze 351).  There would be some good games between PAM, WB and BTHS.

 

No thank you.

 

Silsbee would have to carry too much of the weight in that combination. ;) :D

[Bigcam2903]

Bwahaaaa!! You guys are hilarious. Good points though

[AthleticSupporter - Jock]

No thank you.

Silsbee would have to carry too much of the weight in that combination. ;) :D

Ahhh, that was messed up. But just think about how it could help your graduation rate. :-)

[RaiderRed30]

...and with all that being said,West Brook's numbers have remained pretty much the about since the inception of Ozen and the magnet status have been added, which have been well over 10 years.... They also don't seem to drop off on overall athleticism either... West Brook isn't hurting at all...

I wasn't meaning they weren't. Was just saying that while Ozen and Central can bring players in from west brook for magnet West Brook cannot bring players from the other two in without sitting out.

[Mr. Buddy Garrity]

I think Lumberton, Silsbee and Kountze should merge into one Mega school.  We could call it Big Thicket High School.  A combined enrollment of 2242  (Lumberton 1109, Silsbee 782, Kountze 351).  There would be some good games between PAM, WB and BTHS.

Lol. Nope :D

[Mr. Buddy Garrity]

Ahhh, that was messed up. But just think about how it could help your graduation rate. :-)

Ouch! 

[mytwocents-28]

Ahhh, that was messed up. But just think about how it could help your graduation rate. :-)

Oh dang lol. Your gonna pay for that one supporter lol.

[Aces_Full]

I thought (per UIL athletics guidelines) that "magnet" schools were supposed to play in the highest classification of it's member schools?  That would mean since West Brook is 6A, then Ozen and Central would have to compete at the 6A level.  

 

Any reason why this is not the case in BISD?  

[Mr. Buddy Garrity]

I thought (per UIL athletics guidelines) that "magnet" schools were supposed to play in the highest classification of it's member schools?  That would mean since West Brook is 6A, then Ozen and Central would have to compete at the 6A level.  

 

Any reason why this is not the case in BISD?  

After determining the enrollment cut-off figures, Conference A schools will be further divided by enrollment figures for football, track and field and basketball. Conference AA schools will be further divided by enrollment figures for football. Then map pins are used to represent all schools in a conference and both divisions of Conference A football, track and field and basketball and Conference AA football.  Schools are placed into districts keeping the following criteria in mind: a. Group geographically contiguous schools in groups of no more than ten and place in districts with an even number of schools, except when that action causes an extreme travel hardship.  Schools in a district in urban areas may not always be contiguous. b. Except in Conference A and Conference AA football, there are 32 districts to facilitate the playoff procedures (except in activities that do not have enough schools). c. Multiple-high school districts with more than one school in the same conference will have those schools assigned as follows. (1) Multiple High School Districts with 11 or More Schools in the Same Conference: A multiple high school district with 11 or more schools in the same conference shall have its schools assigned to two or more UIL districts.  Any UIL district resulting from this division with seven or fewer schools from the same ISD in it may have additional schools assigned to the UIL district by the League office. (2) Multiple High School Districts with Seven or Fewer Schools in the Same Conference: A multiple high school district with seven or fewer schools in the same conference shall have its schools assigned to the same UIL district.  Other schools may also be assigned to this UIL district by the League office. (3) Multiple High School Districts with Schools in Different Conferences: A multiple high school district may opt to have one or more of its schools elevated one conference if it wants its schools to be assigned to the same UIL district. (4) Multiple High School Districts with schools in more than one conference, one of which is a magnet school. A multiple high school district with schools in more than one conference, one of which is a magnet school, shall have the magnet school placed in the same conference as the high school in that school district with the largest enrollment.  A magnet school is defined as a high school within a multiple high school district where all students participate in the magnet curriculum. 

 

 

 

 

 

Here ya go. 

[Mr. Buddy Garrity]

From what I personally gather from it is if BISD only had one magnet school that school would move up to where WB is but since its two of them they're in the right classification. 

[RaiderRed30]

I thought (per UIL athletics guidelines) that "magnet" schools were supposed to play in the highest classification of it's member schools? That would mean since West Brook is 6A, then Ozen and Central would have to compete at the 6A level.

Any reason why this is not the case in BISD?

Per UIL for a school to be defined as magnet then every student must be a part of a magnet program. Central and Ozen only have parts of a magnet program. They have regular students that attend as well.