Big girl Posted November 5, 2014 Report Share Posted November 5, 2014 Executive orders!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenash Posted November 5, 2014 Report Share Posted November 5, 2014 Naw, the Ted Cruz situation will be more amusing. I have my popcorn ready. If the Ted Cruz situation were as critical as you would like it to be, last night would not have happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LumRaiderFan Posted November 5, 2014 Report Share Posted November 5, 2014 http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/11/05/obama-to-voters-hear-956641799/ :rolleyes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big girl Posted November 5, 2014 Report Share Posted November 5, 2014 Just watch.....I have my popcorn ready. Roflmbo. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenash Posted November 5, 2014 Report Share Posted November 5, 2014 Just watch.....I have my popcorn ready. Roflmbo. :) I know what you mean. My popcorn was particularly enjoyable last night. How about yours? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5GallonBucket Posted November 5, 2014 Report Share Posted November 5, 2014 how can anyone have such loyalty towards a party that pays them off for their votes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baddog Posted November 5, 2014 Report Share Posted November 5, 2014 I have a renewed faith in humanity and the true American people. Communism will not take hold in this country. Let him veto, it is all he can do and that can be overridden (2/3 majority of both houses per TVC). What a glorious day indeed. PamFam, I like your attitude. Big girl is clueless. Already touting Hillary. That's laughable. Next election will be bigger than this one for the Republican party. My 401K should really take off now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvc184 Posted November 5, 2014 Report Share Posted November 5, 2014 Why are you guys so excited? The President Is going to use his veto power and he will use executive orders to get what he wants. The republicans will see how it feels to have everything blocked. President Obana is going out in a blaze of glory. Fyi: hiliary is projected to win the presidency. Let the games begin. I love it. I am sure in your disgust at the turnout (understandable) you missed the previous posts so I will quote one of mine. The most important part of this Senate victory is not legislation per se because Obama will simply veto almost any bill sent. The huge victory is that Obama can get no treaties passed, no cabinet appointments and no federal judges including the Supreme Court without Republican consent. A president who has not had to use veto power in 6 years because he has had his shills doing his bidding for him, will now be stuck with actually leading, maybe by veto. But the country and world will see. For 6 years the Democrats will not even allow most bills to come up for a vote. They will not allow a budget to pass. Now such things will go forward and if he feels that he can go in front of the people and tell them that it is him now stopping legislation, go for it. As an example, let the president veto a bill to allow the Keystone pipeline to go through. Let him and the Dems go into the next election knowing that they are blocking a popular energy bill. He won't be on the ballot but many Democrats will be and when they continue to back him, their fate will likewise be sealed. On the other hand, with a simple veto pen he will have a lot more time to improve his swing on the golf course. PN-G bamatex 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big girl Posted November 6, 2014 Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 I know what you mean. My popcorn was particularly enjoyable last night. How about yours? yep, it was tasty!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big girl Posted November 6, 2014 Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 I am sure in your disgust at the turnout (understandable) you missed the previous posts so I will quote one of mine. A president who has not had to use veto power in 6 years because he has had his shills doing his bidding for him, will now be stuck with actually leading, maybe by veto. But the country and world will see. For 6 years the Democrats will not even allow most bills to come up for a vote. They will not allow a budget to pass. Now such things will go forward and if he feels that he can go in front of the people and tell them that it is him now stopping legislation, go for it. As an example, let the president veto a bill to allow the Keystone pipeline to go through. Let him and the Dems go into the next election knowing that they are blocking a popular energy bill. He won't be on the ballot but many Democrats will be and when they continue to back him, their fate will likewise be sealed. On the other hand, with a simple veto pen he will have a lot more time to improve his swing on the golf course. poor thing. You have it backwards. VETO. He doesnt care, he has nothing to lose :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big girl Posted November 6, 2014 Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 The party of no is reaping what they have sown. Lmbo. Let the games begin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big girl Posted November 6, 2014 Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 His golf swing will get better, but I am concerned that he might get carpal tunnel syndrome from continuously using that veto apparatus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenash Posted November 6, 2014 Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 The golf swing much, but I agree with you, it will get better because there is no way to go but up. I pray you are correct about the carpal tunnel. It will assure a Repub President in 2016. Do you think Michelle will still be proud of her country when he is no longer President? Do you think he will return to the preachings of that great American, Jeremiah Wright? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvc184 Posted November 6, 2014 Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 I hope he vetoes everything. That will be the fait accompli for the 2016 presidential election. Might as well make it a clear sweep and get back to business. The Dems are about to deal with what the Republicans had to deal with after the Democrats controlled both houses during Bush's last two years. He was stuck with a non-cooperative legislature and that led to Obama's election. What caused his election is what will cause a Republican sweep in 2016. Of course the Dems will be in denial just like in this election. It won't happen.... it won't happen.... it won't.......... okay, it happened. PN-G bamatex 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PN-G bamatex Posted November 6, 2014 Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 If Obama chooses to make frequent use of his veto power, he'll be vetoing his way into the history books as one of the least effective presidents of modern times. Effective presidents recognize changes in the political scene and make the necessary adjustments to carry out the nation's business. Obama has no record of doing so, no ability to do so and no intention of doing so. Case in point: the ultimatum Obama issued today. Instead of doing what a politically savvy Bill Clinton did or what an unlucky George W. Bush tried and failed to do by presenting an approachable, workable front and offering a Congress held by the opposing party an opportunity to work together, he told a lame duck Congress that it has six weeks to get immigration reform done, or suffer the consequences of having it done for them through a series of likely illegal executive orders. Of course, Obama knows immigration reform won't get done in that time span. And he has every intention of living up to his promise. At the end of this year, when the dust is settled and Harry Reid has successfully stifled any actual attempt to get something done in Congress while erroneously blaming Republicans, Obama will live up to his promise. He'll probably issue all those executive orders, which will be successfully challenged by Republicans and struck down in the courts. And that will set up the narrative to galvanize the Hispanic vote in 2016. "The Republicans don't want your friends and families to have citizenship." Why is Obama doing this? Because he's not a leader, a good president or even really a skilled politician. It's because Barack Obama is and always has been a PR expert. He doesn't run for office to get anything done, he runs for it for the sake of winning it and holding the power. When it comes right down to it, he'll do whatever it takes to hold onto power. It's the classic Chicago mafia way, and in this case, that means setting things up to establish and support a propagandist narrative rather than to actually get something positive done. If the Republicans are smart, they'll read the play and have a response ready. When they start challenging those executive orders in the courts, they need to simultaneously have a bill in drafting in Congress to get major immigration reform done. They need to pass that bill, they need to send it to Obama and they need to force his hand. Either he signs it, and the Republicans get a lot of what they want, or he vetoes it, in which case the Republicans have something to contradict the narrative that the Democrats are gung-ho on getting it done and the Republicans are the ones standing in the way. Either way, it's a win-win. They then need to complement this strategy by either nominating Marco Rubio for president in 2016 or having Susana Martinez on the ballot as the VP candidate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new tobie Posted November 6, 2014 Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 Can't wait to see all the good things that will happen for the middle class folks in the next two years. Happy days are here again. The good ole Kock Brothers sure are Happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smitty Posted November 6, 2014 Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 Can't wait to see all the good things that will happen for the middle class folks in the next two years. Happy days are here again. The good ole Kock Brothers sure are Happy. The Koch Brothers create jobs. So, you have a problem with this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smitty Posted November 6, 2014 Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 poor thing. You have it backwards. VETO. He doesnt care, he has nothing to lose :) So, let's see, obama said he wasn't on the ballot but his policies were. obama and his party was massively defeated Tuesday. Read: HIS POLICIES! So, you suggest all he should do is VETO over the next 2 years? Doesn't sound like really being interested in compromising! Something you complained about the Republicans not doing. Again, obama not interested in doing what's good for America. But, remember, conservatism works every time it's tried! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LumRaiderFan Posted November 6, 2014 Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 Can't wait to see all the good things that will happen for the middle class folks in the next two years. Happy days are here again. The good ole Kock Brothers sure are Happy. How's the last six years worked out for the middle class? The Koch brothers I'm sure are happy...and I'm sure George Soros is very unhappy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenash Posted November 6, 2014 Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 Can't wait to see all the good things that will happen for the middle class folks in the next two years. Happy days are here again. The good ole Kock Brothers sure are Happy. If one good thing happens for the middle class in the next two years, it will be one more than has happened in the last six. Middle class income has declined substantially since the median reached its high of $56,436 in 2007. It is now $51,939 thereby suggesting that whatever methods/policies have been instituted since 2007 have been COUNTERproductive. Saying your "for the middle class" is quite easy to do. Providing results beyond the rhetoric is more difficult. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
77 Posted November 6, 2014 Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 It amazes me that some folks forget that when times were good it was the large corp. that were hiring all those middle class people that the dems love to hate! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big girl Posted November 6, 2014 Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 If Obama chooses to make frequent use of his veto power, he'll be vetoing his way into the history books as one of the least effective presidents of modern times. Effective presidents recognize changes in the political scene and make the necessary adjustments to carry out the nation's business. Obama has no record of doing so, no ability to do so and no intention of doing so. Case in point: the ultimatum Obama issued today. Instead of doing what a politically savvy Bill Clinton did or what an unlucky George W. Bush tried and failed to do by presenting an approachable, workable front and offering a Congress held by the opposing party an opportunity to work together, he told a lame duck Congress that it has six weeks to get immigration reform done, or suffer the consequences of having it done for them through a series of likely illegal executive orders. Of course, Obama knows immigration reform won't get done in that time span. And he has every intention of living up to his promise. At the end of this year, when the dust is settled and Harry Reid has successfully stifled any actual attempt to get something done in Congress while erroneously blaming Republicans, Obama will live up to his promise. He'll probably issue all those executive orders, which will be successfully challenged by Republicans and struck down in the courts. And that will set up the narrative to galvanize the Hispanic vote in 2016. "The Republicans don't want your friends and families to have citizenship." Why is Obama doing this? Because he's not a leader, a good president or even really a skilled politician. It's because Barack Obama is and always has been a PR expert. He doesn't run for office to get anything done, he runs for it for the sake of winning it and holding the power. When it comes right down to it, he'll do whatever it takes to hold onto power. It's the classic Chicago mafia way, and in this case, that means setting things up to establish and support a propagandist narrative rather than to actually get something positive done. If the Republicans are smart, they'll read the play and have a response ready. When they start challenging those executive orders in the courts, they need to simultaneously have a bill in drafting in Congress to get major immigration reform done. They need to pass that bill, they need to send it to Obama and they need to force his hand. Either he signs it, and the Republicans get a lot of what they want, or he vetoes it, in which case the Republicans have something to contradict the narrative that the Democrats are gung-ho on getting it done and the Republicans are the ones standing in the way. Either way, it's a win-win. They then need to complement this strategy by either nominating Marco Rubio for president in 2016 or having Susana Martinez on the ballot as the VP candidate. oh well!!!!. Now the party of no wants to negotiate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big girl Posted November 6, 2014 Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 Can't wait to see all the good things that will happen for the middle class folks in the next two years. Happy days are here again. The good ole Kock Brothers sure are Happy. They sure are, but evil never prevails. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big girl Posted November 6, 2014 Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 The golf swing much, but I agree with you, it will get better because there is no way to go but up. I pray you are correct about the carpal tunnel. It will assure a Repub President in 2016. Do you think Michelle will still be proud of her country when he is no longer President? Do you think he will return to the preachings of that great American, Jeremiah Wright? yep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LumRaiderFan Posted November 6, 2014 Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 If one good thing happens for the middle class in the next two years, it will be one more than has happened in the last six. Middle class income has declined substantially since the median reached its high of $56,436 in 2007. It is now $51,939 thereby suggesting that whatever methods/policies have been instituted since 2007 have been COUNTERproductive. Saying your "for the middle class" is quite easy to do. Providing results beyond the rhetoric is more difficult. Steve, some folks refuse to look at results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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