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Captain Obvious says...

On defense, PN-G has decent size along the front seven and the Indians can go toe-to-toe with anyone stopping the run between the hash marks.  When Vidor gashed PN-G for big yards, it sounded like a play that got Quirante or Hecklon to the edges [didn't see the game].  Protecting the edges and containing PAM's speed is a concern...big concern.  This game could be a repeat of Angleton v. PN-G, where Angleton ran the ball at will on the Indians...Angleton's RB got to the edge and PN-G did not have an answer.  The Indians have to try and keep PAM's RB in the middle of the field where there is help to get him down.  The Indians are size-challenged in the secondary.  Not much you can do about it besides play hard and use all of the talent God has given you.  The Indians have to keep everything in front of them and get as many defenders to the ball as possible.  Easier said than done.  Do not get beat deep.  Make PAM march down the field.  If they do that and score, then tip your hat to them and get ready for the next series.

On offense, PN-G has to protect the ball...and protect Roschon Johnson when he is looking downfield.  PN-G has to keep PAM out of the backfield.  Spread out the Titans and create as many running lanes as possible.  When you have a shot to throw it downfield, do it.  If Coach Faircloth has saved any tricks, i.e., fake punts, swinging gate, a play we have never seen before, the PAM game may be time to give it a shot in the right circumstances.  Do whatever you have to do to create momentum.

Looking forward to seeing this game at Memorial Stadium.  Lots of memories watching PN-G play Thomas Jefferson and Lincoln during the 1970s and 1980s at Memorial Stadium.

Go Indians.  Peace.

Frodo NDN ... your web pix is SRV ... today, Aug. 27, 2016, is the 26th anniv of his tragic death ... The Sky is Crying.  RIP SRV.

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3 hours ago, bigdog said:

Every team has issues every year.  Ned was on their 3rd or 4th qb one year and still went to the playoffs.  Keep thinking that's the key to PAM winning district.  LOL.  As far as Vidor goes, they haven't made the playoffs since 2012, even on years when they have had a bunch of returning starters.  It won't be any easier this year.

+1

Not sure why everyone is jumping on the Vidor bandwagon.  I don't see a Montana Quirante on the team.  The team to watch is Central.  They will have a big, fast, and experienced defense.  It may not matter what they have on offense because they will have the ability to shut people down and win games 3-0, 7-0, 10-7, etc.  Coach Foreman may finally start using some of the coaching experience he gained at WO-S, i.e., defense first, control the ball and clock, and add up the score at the end.

Central

PAM

PN-G/Nederland

Nederland/PN-G

Everyone else

12 hours ago, robanadana said:

 The Mighty Pirates now have the biggest Jumbotron in our high school viewing area. Better pass another bond......      

Good job Vidor...now you will have a nice view of the final score when PN-G beats you in Vidor...last season's 50-7 PN-G win would look good on that jumbotron.  I'm guessing Nederland fans had the same first thought re: Ned @ Vidor and your new jumbotron.  Seriously, nice job VISD.

Go Indians.  Peace.

Off topic...slightly off topic...UH-alum here (Class of 1994)...tell me about former UT RB Duke Catalon (spelling?).  He is penciled in as one of the Coogs RBs coming out of spring practice and I like what I have read about him, i.e., size, speed, toughness.  Why did he leave Austin?  I know Texas has a stable of talent, but DC was highly regarded out of HS, and Texas seemed to be a good fit for him, i.e., running the ball downhill.  What sayeth the UT faithful about the DC?  We need to find a strong RB to run between the tackles to replace Kenneth Farrow, who was a tough kid that always found a way to get us the extra yard  needed and he took care of the football...is DC our guy to replace Kenneth Farrow? Thanks in advance.

Go Indians (PN-G) and Coogs (UH).  Peace.

It was a good game.  A tad chilly, but nice weather.  Very happy for UH to play well...impressed with Temple's size...they have size all over the field...easy to see how they played well vs. Penn State and ND.  Houston hung tough in the trenches, did not give up the big play on defense, and thank you Lord for Greg Ward, Jr.  What a QB!  He is not just a running QB or "athlete" playing QB...he is a QB who can read defenses, throw the ball all over the yard, and of course, he can create something out of nothing with his amazing feet...he has eyes in the back of his head...and he just makes plays!  Love his toughness.  Those 3 FR on the OL are getting better each day...but it helps, GWJr can buy time to throw or just take off!  How about PA's own, Elandon Roberts?  Tough as nails, smart, and a great kid.  He does not know my kids from Adam or Eve, but he gave them a hug in the stadium entrance walk-through.  Happy he is doing well.  If PAM needs a role model from college, they should ask Elandon Roberts to speak to kids.  Hell, I wish he would go to PN-G and tell his story about EARNING his spot at UH...desire...perseverance...toughness...he is our GWJr on defense.  Go Elandon Roberts.  Go Coogs.

P.S. Cameron Malveaux from HF is a MAN, too.  SETX should be proud of him.  He will be in the NFL.  He has the size...has huge hands...should be a good DE in the NFL.  I did not see him before or after the game today...left during the trophy presentation due to cold kids...but saw him in pregame warm-ups during drills.  Big agile young man.

Peace.

No, as I understand it, the players decide or have a vote.  I'm in the camp of "I don't care what they wear...just keep playing."  The teams in the 1950s wore purple white and gray.  The gray is not unprecedented, but for my money, I like the all purple home gear or the purple/white combo at home and the all white storm trooper unis on the road.  My opinion does not matter, so no big deal.  Whatever the kids want, I can dig it.

Go Indians.  Peace.

This is my first year to vote. No guidelines were given to me as to how to vote. Just given a list of players and their stats which were nominated by their coaches, and then it is my personal vote using whatever criteria I feel necessary. I understand this to be the case for all who votes. Everyone that votes has their own way of voting.

 

I personally consider many things: stats, team success, character, etc. I even will give the nod to a senior over a junior, but that's just me.

Bravo AAW.  Thank you for responding and being honest.  Congratulations to all nominees, finalists, and winners.

Go Indians.  Peace. 

What criteria are used by voters to select a nominee as:

(1) a finalist for the WRS award; and,

(2) the winner of the WRS award?

Overall Ws and Ls, stats, level of competition, head to head games, and the ever elusive, "he's a leader or he's a winner"?  I am not being critical or a smart aleck.  Just asking so I can analyze the nominees using the same criteria.  Also, if an actual voter would please rank the significance of each element used to evaluate a nominee that would be helpful.

What criteria would Coach WRS use to evaluate players?  I do not know.  Never met him.  Again, just asking.

Thanks, Gracias, Merci.

Katy just wears you down, Anderson is a heck of a player.

Yes they do wear you down and out. Katy's OL is dominant.  LT is 6'5" 285 lbs, RG 6'4" 300 lbs., RT 6'4" 250 lbs., and they bring in 2 TEs in the 6'2" 220-230 lbs. range.  They aren't doing it with 5'10" and 190 lbs. kids in the trenches.  They have size and they use it.  They line up and knock you off the ball. The QB looks to be the smallest kid on the field.  They must dress 100 kids. On defense, they have DL kids all in the 250 lbs. range and LBs in the 210-220 lbs. neighborhood.  They tackle well.  Katy coaches do a good job of coaching them up and turning them loose.  Rodney Anderson is a smooth RB...he can take a hit, bounce off, and glide into the end zone.

Long's record came in a 16 game season. Assuming a roughly equal distribution for each game, Long wouldn't have hit the 1500 yard mark until game 7 and he wouldn't have hit 17 touchdowns until game 9. Doty's record came in a 13 game season. Under the same assumption, he wouldn't hit 17 touchdowns until game 6. Both Long and Doty set those records in the senior year. Morse is only a junior.

 

Kudos to that kid. Well on his way to outperforming the two of the best quarterbacks in PN-G history.

Small edit PN-G Bamakid.  Richy Ethridge would have something to say about being the best QB at PN-G.  He went 24-2, collected a state championship as a JR, went back to the semi-finals as a SR, and he could run with the ball or throw it down field with the best of the best.  Ethridge and Long are 1 and 1a; or switch them around it does not matter to me.  I'd take both in a heartbeat.  Long was a better passer statistically, but PN-G did not throw the ball much in 1975-1976.  Morse reminds me of Richy Ethridge...same type of body build and movement in the pocket to avoid the chaos of a rush.  Morse throws lasers when he has to on crossing routes, but his strength is the long ball.  He throws one of the best long balls I've seen in a long time...he puts air under it and with our WRs it is a catchable ball.  He is getting more and more comfortable with what he is doing, playing smart and throwing the ball away when the play is not there, and making his reads.  He is becoming like D. Long in the sense that he is looking off the # 1 WR and throwing to the 2nd and 3rd read.  Can't say enough about #10, #8, #26, and #11 at WR.  If you throw the ball to #10, he catches it...same with #8.  The difference is #10 has some wheels to take any pass to the end zone.

VHS won 22-4A in 1978.  Lost in the first round of the playoffs to Aldine HS in the Astrodome...40-14.  VHS wore all back...shirts, pants, shoes, helmets, face mask...only had white numerals.  It was the heyday for Star Wars in 1977-1978...VHS had the Darth Vader look, but not the Darth Vader game vs. the Aldine Mustangs.

Agreed...fat fingers and a small keyboard...I meant to add to his thought, not type the word "Or" and not meant to call into question what chuck said.  WO-S will regroup and the 2nd half will be a good one.  Good first half for Morse and Giblin.

WOS Defense is being exposed big time

Could it be that the PN-G QB is pretty good and he has a boat load of WRs to throw it to?  It will be a good game.  WO-S never mails it in.  The Indians need to put the hammer down because WO-S will not quit.

Go Indians.  Peace.

Serious question: Has PN-G ever beaten the incredible shrinking school district @ WO-S?  The Mustangs lead the series 19-7.  Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe all of PN-G's wins vs. WO-S have come at home in Port Neches.  Anyone?  Bueller?  Anyone?

Thanks, Gracias, Merci.

Go Indians.  Peace.

Is it true that VHS students raised the funds from private donations to pay for travel expenses to/from Florida?  If so, major props and a round of applause to VHS students and the Vidor community for raising the money/donations and not costing your ISD or VISD taxpayers one penny for the trip.  Bravo.  You have earned the right to go and compete, paid you own way, and now it is time to reap your reward.  Good luck, safe travels, and win or lose enjoy the experience.

Go Indians.  Peace.

Stevie Wonder has a great songs. that illustrates the struggles of youthfulness & once you're an Adult how you miss the good 'Ol Days
"I wish those days would come back once more"
"I wish those days didn't have to go"

If you do not break out into a strut when you hear "Sir Duke" or "Superstition" or "Signed, Sealed, Delivered, I'm Yours" then you are not normal.  Go see a doctor.  Regardless if you are white, black, brown, purple, green or whatever you want to label yourself, there is an appreciation for the song writing, musical arrangement, and singing talents of The Genius, Stevie Wonder.  Even if you think white people can't dance or strut, they still do it --- consciously or unconsciously --- when they hear Stevie Wonder.  There is a reason why Jim Henson and the Muppets (Sesame Street for the old school) loved having Wonderful Stevie Wonder as a guest star for the letters "W" and "M"...he reached everybody with his "w"onderful "m"usic...white, black, young, old.

Go Indians.  Peace.

No more Quirante kids should be allowed at VHS...1 was more than enough...there should be a limit under UIL rules. [joke]  If it MQ 2.0 is a younger brother, what big shoes to fill.  The original MQ left a large, I mean massive, footprint at VHS.  Nothing wrong with Jeff Matthews' system or long range planning.  Go with a youth movement, play those SOPHs in 2014 and grow with them in 2015 and 2016.  Tell the truth robanadana, is MQ 2.0 anything similar to the original MQ?

He is fine.  A few back spasms...getting treatment...everything should be fine.  The best thing to come out of the PN-G, LC-M and H-F scrimmage was the fact that Ky Walker can slide in and play QB if or when needed.  After he warmed up and had a few roll outs under his belt, he was throwing darts.  A few WR drops, but that is expected in the first scrimamge.  Love the fact the Indians can go big with WRs, tall and big, or they can go small and quick at WR, or a combo of both.  Having WRs on both ends at 6'3" or 6'4" or mixing in a quick WR like Sparks give us options all over the field.  RB Halfin has added some muscle.  LB Hughes is a player...he finds the ball and sticks his face mask in the middle of things.  If our OL gels, it could be a fun season for the Indians.  How about the size LC-M brought to the field?  What are the feeding kids at LC-M?  They have some large kids on the OL, DL, and at TE.  H-F had a few kids with size, too, on the DL.

Question:  With new schools and facilities, and many others renovated/remodeled, and with bond issues on the ballot, why is PAISD losing students?  Why is enrollment dropping?  The same question for PN-G?  We used to have an enrollment around 1600 (give or take a few) and now we are down in the 1300 range.  PAM had 2400+ kids and is now closer to a drop in classification.  Yes, I think PN-G should play PAM.  It would be a decent game most of the time.  During seasons where our talent pool is up ala 2014-2016, the Indians can go toe to toe with anyone.  Schedule it and go play and compete.  Not sure why we don't scrimmage or play in pre-district.

Go Indians.  Peace.

Much respect for Larry Neumann, Monte Barrow, and especially Delbert Spell.  Outstanding coaches.  PN-G v. Ned is usually as good a TX HS game as you will find.  Rarely a blowout.   A few plays and play makers usually determine the outcome.

19 games and 3 DC = impressive.

Time for the DC to change hands...not leaving Mid-County...just sliding over to PN-G for a few years.

Go Indians.  Peace.

at least the Port Neches Groves part! Let's fire it up!

 

GO PIRATES!!!!

You should be offended.  The PN-G W-L record vs. Vidor is 41-11-1.  After Friday, November 7, 2014, that record will be 42-11-1.  That is offensive.  The Indians will be on their way to the playoffs and the Pirates will be headed back to P.E.  Again, offensive.  Scores like PN-G 48 and Vidor 13 = offensive.

Has Vidor figured out the forward pass is legal in Texas high school football?  I wasn't sure after last season...the Pirates couldn't stop the pass on defense or complete one on offense.

No more Quirante kids allowed in the VISD.  One was too many.

Go Indians.  Peace.

Why not name it Beaumont ISD Stadium and have a plaque or Honor Wall naming and picturing all of the people in Beaumont who have contributed to the history and legacy of BISD including Levias, Durley, Ozen, Smith, Shaver, Carroll, Chargois, et al.  People make too much of an issue about names, titles, logos, team names, etc.  It is a nice facility.  Throw up an Honor Wall and name those in Beaumont that contributed to the foundation and achievements of BISD.  Next, move on....

At PN-G, we need to find the next D. East.  I don't know how strong of a kicking leg/foot he had, but to me it did not matter.  When the Indians needed a 30-yard FG, he made it.  When the Indians needed a 38-yard FG, he made it.  When Indians needed a 15-yard FG, he made it.  And, most important, when it was clutch, he made it, i.e., when he needed to make a FG  with very little time left to beat Ozen and put PN-G in the 2013 playoffs, he made it.  He had poise, his balls were brass, and his leg/foot was "strong enough."

Let's go find the next D. East at PN-G.

Go Indians.  Peace.

Yep and I wouldn't be attending the "ceremony".

 

But since you have brought Silsbee into it, tell me when a Silsbee player has had a "ceremony" for just a verbal commit?

 

The school puts together nice little ceremonies for when the athletes actually sign, but nothing for verbals.

It is hard to fault the kids or Coach Foreman for celebrating.  (1) It gives the players an incentive to play well this season, stay out of trouble and on task, and prove why a verbal commitment during July 2014 should be a binding one in February 2015; and, (2) it gives Coach Foreman a platform to showcase his program.  Maybe an 8th grader or FR or SOPH or JR will see the "ceremony" and come out for football in August.  Coaches are doing whatever they can to advertise and showcase their programs.  They have to compete for talent that may be playing another sport or sitting at home playing video games.  Whatever it takes to get more talent in the program, so be it (so long as it is legal, i.e., within the rules of the UIL).