1989NDN

Ned 20
Vidor 6

Good night Vidor...you will not score 14 points in the 4Q running the slot-T vs. Nederland.  The 20-4A district championship will come down to Nederland v. Ozen.

1979: WOS 28  PN-G 24...as described by marshman...great game...PN-G had 2 or 3 chances on the last drive to throw the ball in the end zone, but it was not meant to be for Ethridge's Indians.

1982 or 1983:  PN-G 17  WO-S 14...great defensive battle all night long...Denny Duhon's 4Q FG wins the game for PN-G.

1989:  WO-S 25  PN-G 20...Danny Malone's Indians pull out all the stops with a throwback screen on a kickoff return, a fake punt, and a swinging gate pass to the fullback for a TD...but WO-S won the game with a long bomb late in the 4Q...largest crowd I've ever seen at old Mustang Stadium...standing room only and fans walked away exhuasted...both teams played their collective rear-ends off.

1992:  PN-G 14  WO-S 13...Mustangs get a late 4Q score and go for two and the W...the runner lost the ball at the goal line during the 2-point try and PN-G recovered...Referees conferred and said it didn't matter because only the Mustang ball carrier could recover the ball in the endzone and he clearly did not recover it...an Indian defender and Mustang OL were tied up for the ball...Hooks went crazy, Indian fans booed him...and then finally PN-G snapped a long district win streak by the Mustangs.

1998:  WO-S 19  PN-G 12...Jr Dustin Long and the Indian air attack come up short vs. the Mustangs.

1999:  WO-S 21  PN-G 14...as described by others in this thread...Dustin Long ran out time.  Great game by both teams...slugfest...PN-G would not lose again until it faced Art Briles and Kendall Briles' Stephenville Yellowjackets in the state championship.

2000:  WO-S 7  PN-G 0...the Mustangs marched to the state championship game during 2000, and PN-G provided them with one of their strongest tests...another defensive battle...neither team gave up many yards.

2003:  WO-S 21  PN-G 20...another nail bitter and slug fest...PN-G used its powerful OL and ground game to wear down the Mustangs, but WO-S proved it had enough stamina and will power (and speed) to survive PN-G ground game.

Not a lot of controversy when PN-G and WO-S get together...just good football.  Glad PN-G was able to get WO-S back on the schedule.

From an old PN-G alum/fan:

1. It's a scrimmage.  Get off the window ledges.  Plenty of things to see on film, evaluate, and learn.  Plenty of time to teach and get better.  Ned's DC Delbert Spell can teach.

2. As long as Delbert Spell is the DC at Nederland, the Bulldog defense will be just fine.  I've seen it turn out that way too many times.  D. Spell has done his part to chip away at the PN-G 48-33-7 series lead.

3. It's not where you start, it's where you finish.  Pass judgment in Week 10, not week 0.

When PN-G travels to Texas City, I want all of the Indians' weaknesses to be exposed and all the ugly to come out and show itself on offense, defense, and the kicking game.  We have plenty of time to evaluate, learn, teach, and get better.  It's not where you start, it's where you finish.

Go Indians.  Peace.

True, not one of their better defenses, but they were aggressive.  We had them spread out and they ran to the ball and put a lot of hats on the ballcarrier.  We put up some points, but not enough...and the Bronco FG kicker could hit from Mars in a cross wind.

Go Indians.  Peace.

The Indians lost to Dayton 36-31 thanks to Dayton's outstanding FG kicker and fiesty defense, but Dayton is no slouch...it was a great game and Dayton made the plays and got the W...Vidor had a good run last year...one of your better teams since 1978...but, you still lost to PN-G 22-15...and since 1940, the Indians have owned the Pirates and rode them like donkeys to the tune of 40-10-1...so keep that W% around 20% vs the Indians and be proud.

I'm a big fan of the Vidor QB/MLB...terrific player that has a mean streak in a good way...he's a leader and he would start and star on any 20-4A team...he's the reason Vidor had a run last year...and he'll likely take you on another run this year...he takes care of the football and make kids around him play hard...you're right, players graduate and when he does, Vidor will have lost an outstanding HS football player...unless he has siblings, the mighty Vidor playoff run might well be over and that 20% winning percentage vs. PN-G will remain about right...and, I'll take the Indians again vs. the Pirates in 2012...that 1920s Wing-T is not as scary as Vidor thinks...its the Vidor QB that is sneaky good...contain him and keep him on defense, and Vidor can be beaten...just like it was last year 22-15.

Go Indians.  Peace.

I don't know what his 40 time is, but he is football fast...sneaky fast...he can find a way to get open.  If he puts on 10-15 lbs. and plays at 195-205 lbs. he could be a Wes Welker or Hines Ward type WR...a slot receiver that gets matched up with a nickel DB or a safety and just plays like a ball hawking WR.  He reminds me a lot of Hines Ward...justs gets open and makes catches.  At Lamar, he will not be able to get wide and run downfield and just out-jump DBs like he did for us at PN-G...but, he has a knack for getting open, finding holes in a zone, and competing for the ball.  He has the best set of hands to come through the PN-G football program.  When the ball went to him, he competed for it and usually made the catch.  He made some outstanding catches in the 6 or 7 games I've seen in the past 2 years.  Glad he's got an opportunity to play for LU.  He could be a terrific slot WR that moves the chains.  We will miss him at PN-G.

Go Indians.  Peace.

Ozen has found its groove...the Panthers will be a tough out in the playoffs.  The QB/RB combo at Ozen is righteous.

Congratulations, neighbors.  Think of all the things that have happened since Nederland last won an outright championship in 1965.

Vietnam
MLK and RFK assassinated
Man on the moon
Jets win SB over the Colts
Woodstock
Roe v Wade
Ali v Frazier at MSG and in the Thrilla in Manilla
Watergate
The Miracle on Ice in 1980
The Challenger explosion
Tiananmen Square in China
Collapse of the Soviet Union
Berlin Wall falls
Desert Shield/Storm
Mandela and de Klerk end apartheid in South Africa
Computers
Cell phones
Smart phone
Death of Princess Diana
9/11
OBL rise … and fall
The Taliban
Rovers on Mars…pictures of the red planet
Iraq – Afghanistan
Deaths of Janis Joplin, Elvis, Michael Jackson
The Dallas Cowboys won 5 SB
9 US Presidents in office [LBJ, Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, Bush, Clinton, W, and Obama]

I’m sure I’ve left out some notable things in history…46 years is a long time.  Ned = clearly the best team in 20-4A in 2011.  [golf clap]  Well done.

Go Indians.  Peace.

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Much love to ya soulja ;)
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This year we will not let you'll have it so easy plus we will be playing at Da Butch.
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Isn't PN-G undefeated at BISD's Dr. Carol "Butch" Thomas Educational Resource Complex?  I know we got a W vs. Ozen there plus a playoff W.  The Dre Dunbar Miracle happened at the old Babe vs. Central.  Last year, we played Central at The Reservation.  I want to say PN-G is 2-0 at the new BISD complex.  Not a large enough sample size...but, if we win there this season and perhaps get 1 or 2 more playoff Ws there, then the PN-GISD will need to put a a footnote on that rather large and wordy stadium sign: "Dr. Carol 'Butch' Thomas Educational Resource Complex and PN-GISD Satellite Reservation."

Job well done by the BISD taxpayers...it's a nice stadium...very nice.  Looks good in purple.  :)

I'm beginnng to wonder if Coach Aymond is slowly on his way out at NS?  He's been there a long time, had some great teams, his kids are in college or grown, he's probably got grandkids, but I don't know this for certain, his talent pool has been slowly depleted over the past few years in the Galena Park/Sheldon/Channelview areas...jobs at the refineries on Sheldon Road, on the San Jac River, and over in LaPorte-Pasadena are few and far between; we are a mobile society and families move where the jobs are located; plus all of the growth on N-Betlway 8 in the Redstone area and in Humble-Atascocita have taken a few families away from the Galena Park area.  I wonder if Coach Aymond still has the same fire and passion that he had 10 years ago?  Plus, his coaching staff gets cherry picked and a few really good assistants have moved onward and upward.  It will be interesting to watch over the next few years.  I think over the next few years, depending upon how the district is composed, PAM has a real shot to be King of the Hill.  When PAM scrimmaged PN-G, I was surprised at the size and speed of PAM's DL and LBs.  Outstanding speed along the front 7 ... they closed down running lanes and misdirection plays designed to get to the corner in a blink of an eye.  The OL had size too.  The RB # 2 - Nate Holmes - will probably be the best player on the field in every game he plays.  Now is the time for PAM.  Here's to hoping the NS QB rehabs quickly and gets healthy.  A co-worker of mine is a Katy Tiger parent (for a player that does not play much)...and he said its not the same NS team from years gone by.  He said NS was gassed in the 3rd and 4th Q.  Katy was steamrolling in the 2nd half.

PN-G:  West Brook, PAM, and WO-S.  Travel cost = well below the district's budget.  Each of those teams would prepare PN-G for its district foes.

Go Indians.  Peace.

If Nederland pushes out Delbert Spell as DC, then we at PN-G should create an emeritus coaching designation for him and give him some purple and white gear to wear.  Delbert Spell has forgotten more football than most will ever know.  Same with Neuman and Barrow.  Those men have built a solid program at Nederland with varying degrees of talent from year to year.  Just my 0.02 cents from the outside looking in.  And, no, we are not looking to replace Coach Faircloth or any other coaches at PN-G.  We're happy with what we have...but, I think we can find some emeritus spots for Spell and Neuman if NISD wants to push them aside.

Go Indians.  Peace.

I'm surprised the Ozen faithful and BISD are not screaming for the boy's bb coach at Ozen to be reassigned ... the Panthers had to scratch out a 2-point win at HOME versus PN-G?  My Indians, try as we may, are not and probably never will be a basketball school.  We play hard and compete, but for whatever the reasons, we are just not a basketball school.  Football, Spring Football, Baseball, Golf, Track and Field, Soccer, Cross-Country, Tennis...here comes Basketball....  Yet, my beloved Tribe fought the Panthers to the end and let them escape with a 2-point win.

Hard to believe more of the Ozen fans are not on this board asking, "Is PN-G improved, or has our program slipped?"  I don't know the answer.  I hope it is because PN-G is improved and the Tribe has a shot to fight and scratch for some post-season play.  (Go Indians)

And, the Bulldogs go into the Jags gym and takes home a W.  Time to start talking about Nederland as the favorite to win the outright DC in 20-4A?   :o

Go Indians.  Peace.

[quote name="Sgt Rey" post="931981" timestamp="1292194803"]
[quote author=1989NDN link=topic=77285.msg931687#msg931687 date=1292132649]
What schools have expressed an interest?  Is he open to playing another position besides QB (I'm not saying he's not a college QB; just wondering if some schools pushed a position change as a part of the recruitment pitch)?  What kind of reception do college coaches give promo videos from students/parents?  Seems the YouTube videos are growing in interest...just wondering what college coaches thought about them.

Go Indians.  Peace.


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Schools are kinda tricky...some schools will try and keep you on a string...reverse psychology, etc... your focus has to be on the education...it's not a 4 year plan...it's a 30 year plan...jr's football playing days are coming to an end.  That degree will outlast any football career (except Brett Favre's career  :D)..
When we decide what school fits best, he'll play wherever helps the team's chances to win the most...

I honestly think coaches don't watch every video(in major programs)...it would be overwhelming, therefore sadly they are relying more and more on 3rd party information...and you need to see some of the critics...I just think of donuts and ho-ho's when I see them..they probably couldn't play football on play station....
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Well said...nice video.  Good luck with the recruiting process.  I'm going to use that 30-year plan line when it comes time for my kids to pick a university.  Good stuff.  Again, nice video.

Go Indians.  Peace.

What schools have expressed an interest?  Is he open to playing another position besides QB (I'm not saying he's not a college QB; just wondering if some schools pushed a position change as a part of the recruitment pitch)?  What kind of reception do college coaches give promo videos from students/parents?  Seems the YouTube videos are growing in interest...just wondering what college coaches thought about them.

Go Indians.  Peace.

Go Indians.  On to Round 3.  Moving on to the Houston area ... the PN-G alumni and fans in Houston, Austin, the CenTex area, and the Coastal Bend area will start to flood stadiums.  The purple tide will start to rise ... not so much in bi-district or area, but Round 3 and beyond brings out the PN-G masses.

Go Indians.  Peace.

I do not believe an HISD school has won a championship in Texas high school football since the 1985 Yates Lions ... magnet schools and open boundaries have diluted talent pools so much that no HISD school has enough key players to win it all.  Vince Young and the Madison Marlins came close ... HISD's policies cut both ways ... it's good that students have choices of where to attend school, but those same policies have destroyed neighborhood schools ... football coaches never know which middle school talent will be fed into their systems.  You can find 5 kids to play basketball, but it is much more difficult to find 22 talented players to play football.  Plus, some schools in HISD get more resoruces than others.  Some schools only have 3 or 4 football coaches, whereas others have 9 or 10.  I don't know why some schools like Kashmere or Sam Houston get shortchanged, but they do.  I think the alumni of Jack Yates does a great job of trying to protect their neighborhood schools.  More HISD schools should follow that example.

LaMarque 24
Yates 22

Should be a good game.  Yates has some speed on defense.  LaMarque will not get outside of Yates and run away.  But, LaMarque can spread it out and throw it, or bunch it up and run inside.  Yates must avoid turnovers.

Stay classy Indians' fans.  6-4 and 5-2 is a credit to our outstanding coaching staff and hardworking young men.  Our Indians started slow in 2010, mixed some combinations around on defense, and finally some leaders emerged.  We have continually gotten better as the season progressed.  I really think the loss to the "other" Mid-County school is what finally got our Indians clicking ... after Mid-County Madness, we started playing fearless ... we put #33 at MLB and found a leader for a secondary in #8.  We are playing well at the right time of year.  Let's stay healthy, keep getting better, and play our a$$es off in the playoffs.  Have fun, enjoy the ride, and now circle the wagons for all 20-4A playoff teams.  Good luck Indians, Jags, Dogs, and Lions.

Go Indians.  Peace.

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49-13 PNG
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Countdown 5...4...3...2...1... PN-G haters excuses why Central lost... they were looking ahead to the playoffs, all that hype about revenge on The Reservation by the Jags was just a joke, Central was tired from polishing the 20-4A District Championship trophy, Jags had a team meeting and decided to help boost PN-G morale by "letting" them win, and of course, it was the Mid-County referees that gave PN-G 49 points to win the game.

Go Indians.  Peace.

P.S. Good luck to all 20-4A playoff teams ... PN-G, Central, Nederland, and Livingston/LC-M (whoever it may be) ... time to rally for the district and root for all SETX teams.

Peace.

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[b]TOUCHDOWN PNG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![/b]

PNG 49
CENTRAL 7
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OK ... tell the truth ... who knew that PN-G would cover by 42?  All we heard for a week was Central, Central, Central ... wasn't Central supposed to win?

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SORRY HOOK EM BUT 1990 WAS 27 - 0 NEDERLAND...KIP MCFARLAND WAS QB FOR NED...I WAS THERE ...OUR PLAYERS RAN THRU YOUR RUN
THRU SIGN AT HALF TIME... OUR BAND PLAYED CHEROKEE ALL NIGHT....REMEMBER ?????
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KNODDY1 ... wrong, my friend ... you may have been there, but the year you are thinking of was 1988 ... 1988 was the year where Nederland beat PN-G 29-0.  In 1989, PN-G won 41-7.  In 1990, PN-G won 27-0.  In 1991, PN-G won, yet again, 23-6.  And, in 1992, PN-G stomped Bobby August's Bulldogs 54-0.  And, it was in 1986, when Steve DeRouen's Nederland team ran through PN-G's sign and played Cherokee while cruising to a 21-12 win.  Neumann arrived in Nederland in 1993 and the Bulldogs have fared well against the Indians since he took up residence on the Nederland sidelines.  But, the Faircloth era is a new beginning of winning ways for PN-G.  47-31-7.  It is comforting to know that, based on the laws of statistical averages, I will die before Nederland ever evens the series with PN-G.  The Indians played with one-arm tied behind their backs during the Butch Troy and Matt Burnett eras.  Those days are over.

Go Indians.  Peace.

PN-G needs to tighten up the secondary ... the district race will be a kicking & scratching messy fight ... based on 1-week of games, LC-M and Lumberton will be better, Vidor can apparently move the football, Central will be tough despite the spanking that PAM handed them, Nederland will be in the middle of things fighting and competing, and I think a sleeper might be Ozen because they don't leave the city limits of Beaumont to play a game for 5 or 6 weeks.  I have no idea what Livingston brings to the table, but 2 or 3 seasons ago they were taking names and handling out butt whip'ins.  Here's to PN-G getting better each week, playing hard, and being in the mix for another district championship.

Go Indians.  Peace.

What are the odds on 9-1, or 8-2, maybe 7-3 ...?  (joking ... ha-ha).  I think the people who took the under on 10-0 made a wise choice.  Off to Vegas. 

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::)Its way to early in the season to predict a winner between these 2 teams. Heck no one has even scrimmaged yet. Sounds like LCM has a solid team returning as does PNG. Should make for a great game. So how many fair weather fans will LCM bring this year ? My wife is a LCM grad but...... now bleeds purple. Guess she got to PNG territory as fast as she could. One of the smart ones !!!! HE HE !!!! She supports the bears but goes crazy for PNG when we play LCM !!!!
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Funny...the LCM volleyball/golf coach who has been dominating the district for the last couple years in both sports is a PNG alum but absolutely hates the Indians...and she is obviously one of the smart ones... ;)
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The LC-M volleyball coach may tell you and her team at LC-M that she dislikes PN-G, but the truth is, "Once and Indian, always an Indian."  If she is a alumna of PN-G, then she is an Indian.  She may be wearing green and gold and cash her checks from LC-M ISD, but she is a purple and white Indian.  When the legend Barbara Comeaux retires at PN-G, I would imagine that several area coaches, including the one at LC-M, might want to take a turn at PN-G.  LC-M has done very well in volleyball for the past several years ... extremely well as a matter of fact collecting some district championships along the way ... but, volleyball coaches across the state are measured against Barbara Comeaux and her 38 year career with 1000+ wins and multiple state championships in the trophy case.  The truth is, PN-G alumni, fans, and students do not care if others dislike us ... win or lose, we are Indians and we are proud of it.

Go Indians.  Peace.

PN-G vs. TJ

Turn back the clock for those old PN-G vs. TJ and PN-G vs. Lincoln games in the 1970s, 1980s, and 1990s.  Miss those Yellow Jacket and Bumblebee games.  Thankfully, we still have those Nederland Bulldogs on the schedule.  Here's to PN-G starting an annual game with PAM and resuming games with West Brook and WO-S.