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I am more worried about Dayton's defense more than their offense or their running backs. If Nederland can get their ground game untracked against the Bronco defense, it will keep Dayton's offense off of the field and can at least give the Bulldogs a shot at the game. Also, maybe if Dayton turned it over about half a dozen times like they did against Central....... If Dayton's strong defense can stop Nederland's line from opening holes for Mosley and Gutierrez, then the Bulldogs might be in for a long night.

If it 45-7 Dayton, it will be closer than most people think.

It seems like there have been three or four teams that were able to say, "if we just win out". The problem is, other than Dayton, everyone else keeps shooting themselves in the foot everytime they are in position to just win out.

Lumberton has obviously made some improvements and is a competitive team. They made some good strides this year and can hopefully look to better things in the future. They can still play a roll in who goes to the playoffs. A few weeks ago, many people outside of Lumberton pointed out that Raider's wins in preseason did not relate to success in district. While other teams were playing a preseason filled with some very good teams, Lumberton was playing some programs that were no so established as good teams. A few Raider fans pointed with giddiness how some of the 22-4A teams with long playoff histories were 0-3 or 1-2 in preseason. That does not matter except it is a lousy predictor of what happens in district. A couple of Lumberton fans took it upon themselves to then proclaim a run at the district title, a sure playoff team, etc. It almost takes away from the good improvements they have made in the program. It looks like Coach Creuder has the team moving in the right direction. I think some of their fans should not have been looking for a district title just yet however. Give the guy time to get his program in order and then make some noise.

I think I have this playoff race figured out from Nederland's point of view. IF the Dogs can beat Lumberton two weeks from now (in Bulldog Stadium), then the only thing that stops Nederland is back-to-back upsets by PN-G over Central and Dayton. Assuming (I know, never assume) that Nederland beats Lumberton, then the Bulldogs would end up no worse than 4-3. If LC-M wins out against Lumberton and Vidor, they end up at 4-3. If PN-G pulls off one upset, they end up 4-3. If all three teams end up tied, Nederland would go because in head-to-head play between Nederland/PN-G/LC-M, they would have beaten both teams they are tied with.

There were a lot of lessons tonight for people that like to play comparative scores. You cannot tell how your team will do against another team by looking at the scores from teams they played previously. It just does not work although these forums are filled with such nonsense. Let's see, Ozen hasn't won a game and has generally been pushed around in district so Lumberton will stay on track for that magical playoff spot. OOPS! Nederland lost to Vidor. Nederland them beat PN-G. After beating Nederland, Vidor plays a very close (should have won) game against Central. They should not have any problem with PN-G right?. OOPS! Nederland lost to Vidor. Nederland them played PN-G a very close game. LC-M really smacked PN-G around pretty good. They should then do the same thing to Nederland who seems to be an equal team to PN-G. OOPS! Great win by the Indians tonight. Going into the 9th week of the season, you are still in the playoff hunt. Good luck.

LCM Volleyball was right about a sweep tonight so you have to give her credit. In her confusion and excitement, she accidently typed in WE (Orange County) instead of THEY (Mid-County). It was an honest mistake, she had BOJO on the mind.

The Shock The World Tour is fading fast.

It doesn't matter why the stats are not on the page. It seems fairly obvious that stats are not being turned in. The fact remains that many schools from across the state are not listed and almost none locally. I don't see the interest from southeast Texas fans in a site when almost none of southeast Texas is listed, no matter the reason. EDITED: The site lists 204 4A schools. Of those, 172 teams have no stats listed. That translates to about 85% of the schools in 4A statewide not submitting stats from their teams. That seems fairly meaningless to anyone unless their team is one of the 15% that is actually listed. It certainly cannot be used to make a comparison of teams or players from across the state.

Everybody except the fact that they list no statistics for 22-4A at all. There is a disclaimer on the site that says "The THSCA is NOT responsible for the accuracy of the data". That is a very profound statement since several districts are not included in the data. So much for those rankings.

Jay McGuire (sp?) from Silsbee in the 1993 game with Nederland. Silsbee won the shootout 48-44 (sounds like this year's team) and McGuire got 454 yards rushing.

I think the tie breaker in this district is points between the tied opponents. It was a coin flip last year because each team had not played all the teams that were tied due to the shortened season.

Gee, that is crude. By the way, they spell it N-E-V-E-R.

I can't decide if I think it will be close or a blowout but I think Dayton wins, probably by 7 or more.

Words of wisdom that will likely fall on deaf ears.

Sitting on my box blind in Chester, TX that morning, I doubt that I will see any ducks.

Ah yes, the comparative scores. Vidor squeaks by Nederland and then loses to Lumberton. What if they play like those games? You cannot compare one game to the next. Nederland played pretty much a dead even game against Vidor and then lost to Central by 39. By that score, Vidor should not have been in the game against Central. You just cannot compare one game to the next. Nederland beat PN-G and PN-G beat Lumberton so I guess Lumberton should not even show up against Nederland right? Vidor lost to Lumberton and then PN-G beat Lumberton by 2 touchdowns. By comparing scores, I guess PN-G is a 3 touchdown favorite over Vidor. The bottom line is that you can toss out all previous scores and games. I think it will be a close game just like all of Vidor's games so far, likely decided by less than a touchdown.

This is going out on a limb but... There are 5 teams in contention for 3rd place. I think it is likely that all of them will lose (or have lost) to Dayton and Central so everyone goes 0-2 against them. Each of the 5 will beat Ozen and thereby go 1-0. It looks like the 5 contenders for 3rd place will each go 2-1 against Dayon-Central-Ozen. You can just about throw those games out. So it comes down to who wins against each other between Nederland, Lumberton, PN-G, LC-M and Vidor. It is like a small district round-robin (4 games each) for one playoff spot within a larger district. Nederland is 1-1/ a loss to Vidor and they beat PN-G. They have Lumberton and LC-M left. Lumberton is 1-1/ a loss to PN-G and they beat Vidor. They have LC-M and Nederland left. PN-G is 1-2/ losses to Nederland and LC-M. They only have Vidor left. LC-M is 1-0/ They beat PN-G. They have games against Nederland, Lumberton and Vidor left. Vidor is 1-1/ They beat Nederland and lost to Lumberton. They have games with LC-M and PN-G left. LC-M is in the best spot since they have not lost a game to the teams that they are playing against for the 3rd spot. But at 1-0, they still have to play 3 of the other teams, the most remaining games against the contenders. PN-G has already lost 2 games in the mix. Their best finish against the contenders is 2-2. They are the least likely to get a spot at this point. Vidor, Nederland and Lumberton are in a dead heat at 1-1. Interstingly enough, each of them must play LC-M. If any of them beat LC-M, then each of the teams will have at least 1 loss each. Also, with Vidor, Nederland and Lumberton each playing the front runner LC-M, each will somewhat control their own destiny, according to who else loses and by how many points. Each team except PN-G has a chance at coming out with at least a 3-1 record against the other 4 contenders for the spot. Which all means, it is still wide open for the third playoff spot. Without an upset of Dayton/Central or an upset loss to Ozen, this next three weeks might make for a wild finish that might not be decided until the last game is finished three weeks from now. I really don't see any favorites at this point.

Yep.... and Nederland was going to roll over Vidor and PN-G was going to roll over LC-M and Central was going to roll over Vidor and........

No kidding. Nederland could score 35 points and lose this one, even against Ozen.

They probably liked him because maybe he was a nice guy and his players respected him. LCM did not get a new coach to get a fresh start, they got a new coach because they were not going to the playoffs. If they had a string of several years in the playoffs, you can bet they would not have wanted a "fresh start".