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[quote name="Riding Solo" post="1209969" timestamp="1334273130"] [quote author=ispeakjive link=topic=98828.msg1209953#msg1209953 date=1334268637] [quote author=Riding Solo link=topic=98828.msg1209621#msg1209621 date=1334238381] I just talked to  UIL director and yes you can practice a sport out of season duing the school year in the athletic period. I was wrong but I still feel the sameway about classes for individual sports. 50 minutes is not a lot of time to actually get in much work.  Most of the work is done after school. HJ is good not because they have a basketball class but because of their little dribbler program. I don't see the baseball class helping their baseball program. Silsbee they just have more athletes plain and simple. Don't see a basketball class helping Bridge City either. Here are the facts, unless Orangefield really grows at a rapid pace we will always be in the rear view mirrow of WOS, Silsbee and HJ in basketball, also WOS, Silsbee and BC in football. It will be hit and miss for us as long as we stay in this district. We simply do not have the number of athletes some of these bigger schools have. Orangefield needs to have their athlete's playing multiple sports in order to compete. If kids start specializing the program as a "WHOLE" is doomed. That is what we are talking about RIGHT, the "WHOLE" program. [/quote] "WHOLE" program = Football program Anyone who thinks that baseball or basketball players don't benefit from actually "playing" baseball or basketball or working on those individual sports during an athletic period is in denial or truly thinks that every boy in a HS should be playing football and maybe fit in another sport where possible during those specific seasons.  That just isn't the way it is anymore.  With the growth of select baseball and AAU / summer basketball, kids have more options to develop in other sports and what some of you perceive as the "specialization problem" is only going to get worse in all classifications.  There are more options to work on the non-football sports and unfortunately, some of the better athletes may like those better than football and shockingly choose not to play.  Baseball and basketball players get next to nothing from doing football offseason workouts during their specific season.  The workouts should be sport specific, especially during the course of the season and if a kid chooses to specialize, he should not be looked at as letting the football program down.  I know this is Texas and football is king, but some of the arguments on here are ridiculous. [/quote] It will never get worse at the 4A and 5A level, plenty of kids to go around. 3A and down is a different story. All of you that approve of specializing I have never heard you once mention track, powerlifting, cross country, tennis or golf, just basketball and baseball. Are those the only two sports. I have never looked down on a kid for not playing football. My son only played basketball. Some schools make their basketball players run cross country, would you say they get nothing from that? Offseason football is a lot of conditioning and agility drills and I guess that does not help other sports. I agree the weight training could be a little different but to say the offseason football workouts do not help at all is a little ridiculous in it own self.  99% of the kids at Orangefield will not play at the next level on any given year. That is not being cruel just a fact. Here is another fact, lets say Orangefield does away with football all together will the other sports improve? No, it will not. All it means is more kids will be walking the halls instead of being involved in a sport. Lets talk about baseball, Bridge City has twice as many kids playing baseball than we do. Hard to compete with that and that is why we only beat them when a special group comes through. See, I care about every sport and in order for Orangefield to Progress as some of you say. We need kids to play multiple sports. You sound like you are from the "ME" generation, well I am from the "WE" generation. [/quote]Im tring to follow your logic.  Are you trying to say kids should only work on the sport that is in season... except football...  because your football team has not been a successful as you would like??  That schools should cut their athletic programs during the day (when you say specific it means football as well)... and only work after school.. not very smart for any of the programs... I understand where you are coming from... you are saying Baseball and Basketball are "taking athletes"... Making it hard to win on the football field...  The same problem HJ and Kountze has now... most of the "Athletes" play only Basketball...  SO HOW DO YOU FIX IT?? IMO.... *Hire the right coaches. If a coach is worries about just his sport and persuades them to play only one then get rid of him/her.  They all have to be on the same page. *Create a Weight training class for all Freshmen who play in ANY athletics.  Make them work out even on game days.  Make them bigger stronger faster. *Win at all levels esp. the lower. Don’t just worry about the Varsity and give them most of the reps... Why do most kids quit programs... not getting playing time or they don’t like getting their teeth knocked in every week.  If you win at lower, kids stay in the program.... *If a kid quits a sport, don't allow them to play another sport until that sport they quit is done for the season.  Teach them to finish something they started. A good life lesson.. *Educate the kids AND  THE PARENTS  about athletic scholarships... let them know how hard it is to get one, how much grades are important and what NCAA allows each sport to have to spend. Most kids quit a sport because they want to "concentrate" on one to get a scholarship.  Their parents spend lots of money on private lessons and select teams. Most do not understand that baseball D1 schools only get 11.7 scholarships to a 30+ man roster. They would be better off just saving the money and putting it into a scholarship fund for their kids. As for sport specific athletic periods you have to keep them.  If a kids wants to play one, then let him get better at that sport. There comes a time where you just can’t play all the sports.  I played in High school: Football, basketball, baseball, cross-country, track and club soccer.  They just kept interfering with each other. By the time one finished you were in the middle of another sport. esp. at HJ when we won to state in 91 or had deep playoff runs.  So I had to give up some..  By my Sr. year I was only playing Football and Baseball.  It’s a decision every kid has to make at one point in time.  Let the kid make his OWN mind up and support it...

[quote name="Riding Solo" post="1209621" timestamp="1334238381"] I just talked to  UIL director and yes you can practice a sport out of season duing the school year in the athletic period. I was wrong but I still feel the sameway about classes for individual sports. 50 minutes is not a lot of time to actually get in much work.  Most of the work is done after school. HJ is good not because they have a basketball class but because of their little dribbler program. I don't see the baseball class helping their baseball program. Silsbee they just have more athletes plain and simple. Don't see a basketball class helping Bridge City either. Here are the facts, unless Orangefield really grows at a rapid pace we will always be in the rear view mirrow of WOS, Silsbee and HJ in basketball, also WOS, Silsbee and BC in football. It will be hit and miss for us as long as we stay in this district. We simply do not have the number of athletes some of these bigger schools have. Orangefield needs to have their athlete's playing multiple sports in order to compete. If kids start specializing the program as a "WHOLE" is doomed. That is what we are talking about RIGHT, the "WHOLE" program. [/quote]Sure you can get alot of stuff done in 50 min. If it is done right... You cant just have practice where one hits and the rest shag... that is stupid... set up stations where 4 in a group (working on a specific swing) @ 5 min a station... 7 stations = 21 kids getting plenty of reps in 35 min.... I was a three sport kid and went to HJ from 89-93. So I care about all sports. The best way to run a program is to have a Freshman weight training class for all who particpate in ANY athletics.... and they lift no matter if they are in season or not.... who cares about the Sub Varsity games... as long as the kids are getting stronger, faster and better skills. when they get to be more than higher than that leave them alone. You cant make a kid play so why burn him because he says no.. should all football players not practice football during the period just because they are done and they wont play baseball??.... no... thats stupid..... Let the kids be... dont perswade them...  help them be mature adults!! That is the way a real program should be put together

[quote name="Riding Solo" post="1209444" timestamp="1334185910"] [quote author=catfever link=topic=98828.msg1209174#msg1209174 date=1334159096] This topic would probably get a more accurate response on the baseball and basketball forums.  IMO, yes it does help.  They can get better at individual skills that are a must in order for a TEAM to be successful.  They still need to work on throwing, batting, and catching in baseball and dribbling and shooting in basketball.  I agree that kids don't need to specialize at the 3A level, but lets face it, some kids aren't football players, just like some are not baseball or basketball players.  Why should the kids who just aren't football players, not be able to get better at the sport they like to play.  If done properly, this would not encourage kids to specialize, it would just benefit the ones who do. [/quote] The UIL does not allow a team to start practicing before the mandated date. So if they work on batting, throwing, catching, dribbling and shooting before that date it is against the rules plain and simple. What they do on their spare time is their business. I agree some are not football players but why should the football players not have the adaquate time to prepare just like the kids who only play basketball. It that fair for the football players just because they chose to play football? Its a double egde sword. You have to think about every kid in every sport not just the one your kid is playing in. [/quote]HMMM YES UIL does allow a team to start practicing before the mandated date. Its called fall ball. Now the head baseball coach of the school can not coach them there but he can appoint the right person to run the team. He can teach him/her how to run practice and what to look for.. so they can practice as a team.  Also during the athletic period they are allowed to throw, catch, hit.....with the coach there. and yes football players are allowed to practice before the season starts.... its called 7 on 7 during the summer.. or Spring Football with pads. As for should 3A teams have separate specific sport periods...YES... Its not fair that a kid can not get practice during the period just because they do not play football.  But It has to be done right and the RIGHT COACHES need to be hired.  A coach should not persuade a kid to stick to one sport.

[quote name="EAGLE07" post="1209067" timestamp="1334148920"] [quote author=hitman009 link=topic=98760.msg1208980#msg1208980 date=1334110658] Tyler Davenport (JR.) P- Crosby LHP - 85-88mph. Has [b]88 stirkeouts[/b] this season. 60 in district alone.  Pitched against LEE twice(17k,14k), Dayton(14k) and C.E. King(15K). .325 batting avg. with 2 HR. by the way. does anyone know what the K record is in 19-4A? Hunter Hearn (FR.) Crosby- 2nd/catcher .385 batting avg. GOOD THINGS TO COME WITH THIS KID Czerwonka - GCM. not really a lights out pitcher but can swing the bat. there is not many balls I have seen him miss and hits it on the screws! LSU-E will love this kid next couple of years [/quote] Ditto on the Davenport kid.  I managed to "snag" him up for the Houston Heat this summer. Not sure on strikeout record...I know Kendall Thamm and Ross Hales both had well over 100(120+, if I remember correctly) for the season in '07 at Barbers Hill. [/quote]Really??? well over a 100 in district alone?? they would have to strike out 15 a game (7 games is district each) just to reach 105.  Maybe for the YEAR they had 100+. I could see that.  right now Max preps has Davenport his tied at 16 in the Nation with a start coming friday.  and has only pitched 47 inn.

Tyler Davenport (JR.) P- Crosby LHP - 85-88mph. Has [b]88 stirkeouts[/b] this season. 60 in district alone.  Pitched against LEE twice(17k,14k), Dayton(14k) and C.E. King(15K). .325 batting avg. with 2 HR. by the way. does anyone know what the K record is in 19-4A? Hunter Hearn (FR.) Crosby- 2nd/catcher .385 batting avg. GOOD THINGS TO COME WITH THIS KID Czerwonka - GCM. not really a lights out pitcher but can swing the bat. there is not many balls I have seen him miss and hits it on the screws! LSU-E will love this kid next couple of years

[quote name="bobcat4life" post="1207352" timestamp="1333719076"] The moral to the story about her, is why is it too much to ask to have an AD that accepts every kid.  Many of these young men and women are reaching out for a father figure at home because they don't have one.  As you well know I have a soft spot for kids, and all the kids, not just mine.  My heart goes out to some of them, and as you know I open my home up to them as well.  So I just don't see where it is a huge leap to ask people who are in the profession of motivating as many kids as possible, and to make a difference in their lives, to do it.  I know this, when coaches and teachers are mentors to these kids, maybe just maybe, a few of them will decide that they don't want to let down their coach and will stay away from some of these parties. So if I seem a little sensitive on this issue it is because there isn't a day that goes by that I don't look at a room where a young man stayed that is no longer with us.  Every single time I go to a basketball game I am reminded of the young man that would have been beside my son playing. So yes, I believe that is all of responsiblity to help these young people get to adulthood. And I believe that an AD has a unique opportunity to play a significant role in these kids lives. [/quote]Sorry but you are wrong about Coach Huck.  I played for him in 90-93 at HJ.  I can remember him reaching out to a young man, who was shot 9 times in a drug deal gone bad in Anahuac.  Not only did he give the kid a second chance, but offered him a place to stay, AT HIS OWN HOUSE, when the kid needed to get off the streets.  All while he was married with 2 small children running around....SO don't give me any BS about Coach Huck not caring or tring to motivate his players.  You have a great coach... You would do much better as a community if you just trust and back the man... I can assure you, you will do better..

Crosby has 2 starting.  Hunter Hearn... starts at 2nd and catches.. lead off.. has played every game and batting .371... and Justin Cegeilski has been playing 3rd. good glove and is batting .308

Is the game already over. I noticed the last post was at 7. Did the game start early. I thought it was a 6 start

[quote name="MrUmp1" post="1205372" timestamp="1333400175"] Ok there is a difference depending on league. In Federation High School ball it is an immediate dead ball. In the pro's, college, and as far as I know summer league ball it is a delayed dead ball. Why there is a difference is beyond me but it is. So the umpires were correct in the high school game to call a dead ball. [/quote]ok. thank you. you might want to talk about this in the weekly meetings.  I talked to 5 different umps and they said you have the CHOICE in High School too.

is a balk a dead ball.  ex. a balk is called, but the pitcher DOES throw the ball and the batter swings and hits a HR/1B/2B/.  I was always told that the batter/manager gets to choose. the balk or the result of the play?  We have had 2 calls this year by umpires that said it was a dead ball.

[quote name="hitman009" post="1203461" timestamp="1333023237"] Robinson - Crosby #4 against GCM [/quote]robinson has 4 hr

Robinson - Crosby #4 against GCM

question: runner on first. 2 strikes on the batter.......a swinging strike three and the kid comes out of the box and crosses home plate. while the runner on first is stealing second. contact is made.  what is the ruleing.  Is the runner at 1st out or just has to return to 1st?

[quote name="Oldgrump" post="1201052" timestamp="1332515082"] Brad Schroeter- Warren JH.  Coaches both 7th and 8th by himself [/quote]Brad Schroeder

I know in 2 district starts he has 32 K's already. 17 against Lee and 15 against CE KING

Eric Robinson - Crosby (3rd)

Tyler Davenport 1 Hr. Crosby

[quote name="Hat Creek" post="1184556" timestamp="1330103731"] eric robinson  crosby  senior [/quote]that makes 2 this year

[quote name="82 5A State Champs" post="1185101" timestamp="1330134155"] Crosby is in, what, 19-4A? Not a powerhouse 4A district, some would say. How does the level of competition in that 4A district, compare to what he's going to see in 21-5A? NS, PAM, LP, DP.....these aren't scrub 5A teams! I am optimistic, and hopeful, that this guy can keep WB at the top of the heap without missing a beat. Good luck to him. I hope he does a fantastic job, at WB. This could certainly be the most talent rich school he has coached at. Let's hope he uses it wisely! [/quote]19-4A has split almost every year with 20-4A in playoffs.  The talent level is the same. As for your worry's let me put it at ease. He is a great X and O man.  He knows how to attack every D. on the ground and in the air.  He has done well in Crosby with the spread even with QB's and WR that are not what you call "outstanding".  Merka was a good QB but not what you call a pocket passer.  Flanigan knows how to adjust his offense to the type of players he has.  A great coach and  person.  Count your blessings.  WB just got better IMO..

Eric Robinson Sr. (Crosby) 1

Former Kirbyville QB Houston Vanya, now at Ennis signs with: Southwestern Babtist University - Bolivar, Missouri

[i][b]Crosby Cougar Baseball[/b][/i] [b]Scrimmages:[/b] Feb. 6th Texas City  5pm /  Soph/JV @ T.C. 4/6pm Feb. 10th @Channelview  5pm  /  Soph/JV  Chann.  4/6pm Feb. 14th  Santa Fe 5pm  /  Soph/JV @ Sante Fe  4/6pm Feb.  17th @Huntsville 5pm /  Soph/JV Huntsville  4/6pm [b]Non-District:[/b] Feb. 20 Santa Fe  6pm  / Soph/JV @Sante Fe at 4/6pm Feb 23-25 Humble Tourney  / JV @ Nederland Tourney [b]Humble Tourney[/b] Game 1 vs. Dobie  (Feb 23rd @ 11:00am) Game 2 vs. Summer Creek  (Feb 23rd @ 4pm) Game 3 vs Humble  (Feb 24th @ 11:30am) Game 4 vs TBA (Feb 25th @ TBA) [b]JV Nederland Tourney[/b] Game 1 vs PNG Feb 23 @ 11am Game 2 vs Nederland  Feb 25 @ 3pm Game 3 vs Bridge City  Feb 26 @ 7pm February 28  @  Lumberton 7pm /  Soph/JV  Lumberton 4/6pm [b]March 1-3  Huffman Tourney /  Crosby JV/So Tourney[/b] March 1st - Crosby vs Caney Creek @ 3:00pm March 2th - Crosby vs GCM @ 12:30pm March 3rd - Crosby vs Ozen @ 12:30pm Possible 4th Game 8pm Sat. [b]Crosby JV Round Robin[/b] Crosby vs. C.E. King  Friday, March 2nd @3pm Crosby vs. Humble  Friday, March 2nd @ 7pm Crosby vs. Huffman Sat., March 3rd  @ 6pm [b]Crosby Soph Round Robin[/b] Crosby vs C.E. King  Thursday, March 1 @ 3pm Crosby vs East Chambers JV  Thurs., March 1 @ 7pm Crosby vs East Chambers JV Sat, March 3 @ 10am Crosby vs C.E. King  Sat, March 3 @ 12am March 5 @ Summer Creek  7pm / JV(Away@4:30pm)SO(Home@4:00pm) March 8-10  New Caney Tournament  /  JV/Soph @ Coldspring Tourney [b]New Caney Torunament - Varsity[/b] Game 1 WestBrook  pm  (March 10) Game 2 LCM 10am (March 11) Game 3 New Caney 3pm  (March 11) Game 4 Porter 5:30pm (March 12) [b]JV/Soph Coldspring Tourney[/b]Game 1 vs  (March 10 @ 12:45pm) Game 2 vs  (March 10 @ 3pm) Game 3 vs  (March 12 @ 12:15) [b]District Games[/b]: March 13 Baytown Lee  6pm  Soph/JV @ B.L.  4:30/6:30pm March 16  @North Forest  7pm  JV  NF  6:30pm March 20 C.E. King 6pm  Soph/JV @ C.E.K.  4:30/6:30pm March 23 @Galena Park 7pm  JV GP 6:30pm March 27 Goose Creek Memorial  6pm Soph/JV @ GCM  4:30/6:30pm March 30 Dayton  7pm  Soph/JV @ Dayton  4:30/6:30pm April 3  @Barbers Hill 6pm  Soph/JV BHS  4:30/6:30pm April 5  @Baytown Lee 7pm  Soph/JV BLHS  4:30/6:30pm April 10  North Forest 6pm  JV @ NF 6:30pm April 13  @C.E. King 7pm  Soph/JV King HS  4:30/6:30pm April 17 Galena Park(P.N.)  6pm JV @ GP 6:30pm April 20 @Goose Creek Memorial  7pm  Soph/JV GCM  4:30/6:30pm April 21    Soph/JV Dayton  11am/1pm April 23 @Dayton 4:30pm  Open  (Varsity Only) April 27  Barbers Hill 7PM  Soph/JV @ BH  4:30/6:30pm

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="1165010" timestamp="1327420291"] [quote author=slappy link=topic=94086.msg1165006#msg1165006 date=1327419673] AggiesAreWe, really you broadcast high school football and you spout like some jackleg off the street.[b] crosby held vidor 0 completions [/b]which had been big plays for them last four opponents. only two plays over 10 or 15 yards. both of which were huge in thier montgomery win. and one of their lowest offensive yardage nights in last 8 games. c'mon man get a clue. special teams and turnovers were devastating in that game. [/quote] "Crosby [b]held[/b] Vidor to 0 completions". That's pretty funny statement considering Vidor only attempted 2 passes the whole game!!! Vidor pounded Crosby for over 300 yards rushing. Like I said, Crosby was the more talented team, but Vidor was better coached and the better team. 42-20 pretty much speaks for itself. [/quote]"Pounded"???  Vidor only had 302 total yards of Offense. Crosby had 412.  The game came down to turnovers (2), Penalties (11 for 100 yards) and the type of D. Crosby's D did not match up very well vs Vidor's O (Wing T vs 3-3 stack). the match up would say your going to get 3-4 yards a carry, and in playoffs it all about match ups. Vidor did a great job... Grinding the ball down the field, keeping the Coog D on the field, controling the ball, and making the O make desperate decisions.. My hats are still off to Vidor but saying they were more talented at almost ANY position is crazy.

[quote name="Grammar Police" post="1156713" timestamp="1326130124"] [quote author=WOSgrad link=topic=93238.msg1156698#msg1156698 date=1326128522] [quote author=goodtimes link=topic=93238.msg1156697#msg1156697 date=1326128399] Has this job open yet?  If not then how can Coach Slack be the front runner? The Bobcats are down right now, but they always seem to pull one out of the hat in the long run. [/quote] Yes, Coach Haynes has resigned so the job is open. [/quote] Not necessarily..........If they promote from within, they will not open up the job. [/quote]the job has to be "open" or "posted" to everyone for 10 days... Its the law... they may have someone already in mind but even if someone transfers within the district, they still have to post the job..

[quote name="coug4ever" post="1156264" timestamp="1326050411"] Sure hope if Crosby hires this coach he brings some defensive guys with him. Offense wasn't a problem with Flannigan, it was on the other side of the ball. [/quote]watch what you wish for... sulfer springs gave up a average of 25.5 points a game last year and 26.75 in 2010, 23.28 in 09 and 30.56 in 08 when they won state... dont look for too much D... rumor has it he is bringing his own OC and [b]DC[/b].