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1 hour ago, Steven Avery said:

BH scored 3 points in the 3rd qtr on 3 free throws and in the 4th didnt score their first fg until 2 min left in the game.  Hit two 3s in a row within 6 seconds in the last 20 seconds for a total of 11 points in the second half. Liberty Hill didnt look great themselves. Hard to believe this was a state semifinal matchup. 

The 2nd half of last night's game made it look like BH had never played against a 2/3 zone before.  Overall, it was a very good season, but it was a tough loss to end it.

29 minutes ago, Separation Scientist said:

To be honest none of the three teams (SF, Huntsville, Pflugerville) BH has faced so far have impressed me much. Last night Pflugerville struggled a lot. I wondered about the strength of their district too. The game was not as close as the score. That, and I give BH credit for playing well. Its about to get tougher for sure.   

Agreed.  Honestly, BH missed a lot of open and easy shots too.  It could have easily been a 30+ point win.

25 minutes ago, bullets13 said:

seems like it may be implied.

I guess sarcasm doesn't come across that well on message boards.

9 minutes ago, Mr. Thornton Melon said:

The BIG question is: Will the new coach play the Superintendents son ?

Is it a requirement listed in the job posting?

32 minutes ago, Goslin said:

It’s true, was reported in the Houston Chronicle last year.  That’s just the official number as well.  I know someone who lived by the Coach that Abseck replaced and that guy got a car as well as the salary plus other “perks”.  

I thought the Chronicle number for Asbeck was around 175-180.  I would think the current salary range being discussed would be a minimum of 200.

5 minutes ago, Old Ape said:

I dont understand why you have to pay a guy 200 G's to take this job. Is there no one in this area that would take it for 150??

Codutti, Berneathy, Flynn, Gaston, Gotte, none of them are even considered or given a chance to be considered.

If that number is true then that's just sad.  It's the ultimate in daddy ball....undeserved daddy ball at that.

On 11/12/2024 at 9:06 AM, vbdiva said:

You called it. 

It wasn't too hard to see when 1) having an understanding of VB more than Wins/Losses and 2) watching the actual matches.  BH's record at the end of this year was really misleading, they started off not great against mostly decent teams (a couple good teams too), but they also struggled against teams they shouldn't have.  That got masked once they hit district. 

Most fans don't know too much about VB unless they have/had a sister, daughter, or niece play, so they get tricked by that inflated win/loss record.  Most also don't get that the majority of skill comes from club ball and BH's girls are not getting any additional refinement from the schools program.  That is evident in the playoffs and against comparable teams.  BH players can only out talent other teams so much, eventually their coaching needs to catch up to help those girls out.

18 minutes ago, vbdiva said:

AMC was the favorite based on what?  Last year AMC did not even make the playoffs and BH was in the regional finals? Both undefeated district champs.  I would say that was a definite toss up and if I am not mistaken AMC was running a freshman setter.  Maybe based on strength of schedule you could say AMC had a similar record while playing much tougher opponents throughout the season. BHs best win may have been 2A Iola?

In my opinion in VB losses by 6 and 7 points in a set is convincing much less 3 sets in a row. 

 

 

SSDY - Same “Stuff” Different Year(s). Two teams with equivalent talent but big differences in coaching. Seems that a pattern is building at BH VB. 

28 minutes ago, vbdiva said:

Correct. Ironic  NED and PNG as the 3rd and 4th place finishers in Div 2 get the tougher draw. UIL screwed the pooch on this whole deal. 

Friendswood has a clear path to State in D2.  BH will be lucky to get past A&M Consol in the second round.  Will have to play their best match of the year to do it.

Looks like BH's bi district could be a layup, but the prospect of playin A&M Consol in the 2nd round will be a  tough draw.

The new playoff format waters down the post season to an amazing degree.  BH is unbelievable fortunate that Friendswood would be in D2, I doubt it would be a repeat of last year.

14 hours ago, BBfan061 said:

Iola is the defending 2A State Champs…We scrimmaged them and they will probably repeat this year IMO… I get Barbers Hill is 5A and all but like it was stated earlier… they only returned 2 starters and are young overall… 

Understand that Iola is a 2A champ and that BH is young, but BH should have beaten them in the first match and they did the second time they played them (should have been in two instead of three though).  Two seasons ago you had a team just as young beat the eventual 6A champ Dripping Springs in non-district.  Is this current team as talented as the previous, not sure...probably not, but you shouldn't be seeing this big of a drop off with a group that is also filled with club players.  The talent it still there, just not seeing the execution.  Just like football, the jimmy's and joe's still need to be put in the right place.

Anyways, they should beat Clear Lake by a good amount.  If this match is close....then....

They are young with only two seniors, but so was the group two years ago.  That group was mostly underclassmen and dominated a much more difficult non-district schedule; so did classes before them.  Overall this current group is talented enough to have a better record than 9-10, but for whatever reason, it is not happening on the court.  Not getting to the championship bracket of a weaker tournament and losing to a 2A team is not good.  We'll see what happens at this weekends tournament, but I think they will take some lumps again.  However, I fully expect them to go undefeated in district.

18 minutes ago, vbdiva said:

The Hill is going to the huntsville tournament if I am reading the schedule right?  Anyone know who is in that traditionally?

Correct.  They start off with Conroe, Belton, and Huntsville.  Even with how things are going now, I expect BH to beat them.  Struggling against these teams would be dissapointing.

3 hours ago, BBfan061 said:

Deer Park 3 Barbers Hill 2
(23-25, 25-15, 13-25, 25-15, 15-12)

This is not a good start for BH.  Deer Park lost just as much talent as BH, but you could argue that BH had better returning talent (which they do).  A lot of teams lose players year to year, but if you claim to be an elite program you reload and coach up who is next in line.  Maybe there is a reason Bh elected to not play in the Volleypalooza or Dickinson tournaments this year.

1 hour ago, Bud Kilmer said:

TGCA is a joke.  No one should pay any attention to any of their rankings, its strictly based on wins and zero factor into who they are actually beating.  There is no strength of schedule component.  No BC, No Woodville and no SETX teams in sight unless you count Huffman. 

Look at TVI- Here is #4 

 

Here is 3A and 5A

 

Agreed, TGCA should be ignored completely.  TVI is good, but once the season gets going the Houston Chronicle's High School section is probably the best for teams in this area.  

Not a good day for BH with 3 losses.  St. John's, Harlan, and Amarillo are all good teams, but BH never really looked to be in any of the matches.  Looks like tomorrow's bracket play could be difficult too depending on how the other groups shake out.  It is difficult to replace all of last years seniors, especially the 5 from the starting lineup, but this is a noticiable drop off from the past few seasons.  

2 hours ago, BBfan061 said:

The first Tournaments of the year start today! Let’s try and get those scores shared 

BH will play Pearland today.  The Oilers will be a test for them.

50 minutes ago, vbdiva said:

Nice Volleypalooza? I dont think the Dogs have ever played in that and looks like Barbers Hill pulled out of it this year so Nederland is playing a tougher schedule.  

Good for Ned on Volleypalooza, definately get to see where you stack up against established programs.  It is curious that BH would pull out of a tournament with that level of competition.  BH should be playing the toughest competition available because they won't see it in district.  

13 hours ago, TradenupBH said:

The definition of “watered down”

I don't see the need to do this outside of football.

If only BH could keep their seniors one more year.

8 hours ago, Pkvalt said:

We all think we know who the best players were. Wonder if they’re the same? Lol

GCM going up to 6A is interesting. All their programs are going to struggle. Their middle is great and I’m not hating on her getting offensive. Of course I wish our program was better so my kid could be considered but it is what it is. She did all she could with the team she was on.

Well it doesn’t help that half of this district either didn’t keep stats or have decided to keep them hidden and off of Max Preps. Not that Max Preps is perfect, but besides seeing each team play in person, it’s the only tool available to gauge player performance and metrics. 
 

As for GCM, their pending predicament is really an issue with GCCISD, and Baytown, as a whole. Three high schools have diluted each athletic program to a point of perpetual mediocrity. Yeah, you might get occasional sparks, but nothing sustainable. GCM is about to be thrown to the wolves and be a doormat for the foreseeable future. 

50 minutes ago, Pkvalt said:

Nah, if kills leader wasn’t going to get offensive POY, Sanaa was a good choice. 

Agreed.  The district's top awards didn't make sense, but neither did the team selections.  My gripe about the OPOY going to GCM is that they also had the Setter of the Year and Coach of the Year.  If you have the top two offensive awards and coach of the year, you shouldn't have to have a play-in game for 3rd/4th, you would expect a team with those attributes to be markedly better.  Honestly, anyone who watched all these teams knows who had the top offensive and defensive players and which had the top coach.  Congratulations to GCM, though, but if the snapshot numbers in the Football forum are valid, these could be the last big volleyball awards they see for a while.

17 minutes ago, highsky said:

If you're talking about BH having 7 girls on the all district team, it's because one is a libero who can play for anyone on back row regardless of rotation or position.

BH also has more depth of talent than the other teams.  The girls who were not on the starting six would be standouts on any other district teams.  

4 hours ago, LIBERTY82 said:

The coaches/players of the by far and away district champion get hosed in these awards every year.

There's girls on the bench in 7th grade at BH middle school who are more deserving of "all district selections" than some of these at various schools.

And for the life of me, I can't fathom a "coach of the year award" going to a school who didnt win the DC ?

But its 2023, so everybody gets a trophy.

Pretty much.