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I see your point and I think those two will be NBA players.  So will others at Montverde.  Eight months doesn't make a huge difference, but when the gap is two or three years it adds up.  That's not just s&c, but experience, discipline, and maturity as well.  This is why I think the teams dominated by one and done kids don't win as many championships as people think they should.  

Montverde, IMG, Oak Hill, Sunrise, Findlay, etc are all very, very good, but they should be.  They pull talent from all over the country and even the world.  Of course they should strum a school like Yates, who only pulls players from all over Houston.  And a typical high school team only gets kids from their own town or district.  It's not a level playing field, but we're not getting into that again.
Now, Montverde vs SFA or a mid-major is an interesting question.  They'd be more talented and their potential is MUCH higher, but I've heard Marvin Lewis say potential gets you beat.  The difference in the body of a 21 yr old compared to a 16 yr old is huge.  The difference mentally is even more pronounced.  I'd argue that coaching would be in favor of an SFA as well.  Those prep coaches would jump at the opportunity to be a D1 coach.  How much strategy goes into beating high school teams by 50 with a team of all stars?  How much struggle and adversity?  The benefit of going to those prep schools is to practice against the best day in and day out and they serve that purpose.  I don't think Montverde would win a mid major conference though.

I see your point and I think those two will be NBA players.  So will others at Montverde.  Eight months doesn't make a huge difference, but when the gap is two or three years it adds up.  That's not just s&c, but experience, discipline, and maturity as well.  This is why I think the teams dominated by one and done kids don't win as many championships as people think they should.  

Bruh I think u missed my point .. I know there’s a difference.  I’m just saying from a competition standpoint. 
the point I’m trying to make is that regardless of sport  it’ll be Very hard for an elite group of kids that are 15-18 to beat college Level kids that are 17-22..one of the main reasons is due to  the 17-22 year old group having faced elite experience and competition. Experience and competition that you can’t replicate on the high school level.. only my opinion tho ..lol 

Of course he voted for himself.  Anyone who didn't vote for him must be racist.  Just like the refs are racist when he loses.  Great message to send to kids.  Now, sign on all your different logins and blast away, coach.

With Bush getting MVP (which was a no brainer and a given), McClure is clearly the offensive POTY.  Got nothing against the other kid who is a nice player, but it’s obviously just a case of let’s recognize as many kids as we can.  Just a pet peeve of mine.  Give the best player the award and put the other on first team.  I can understand it in a blue moon if it’s too close to call.   Not the case here. 

More embarrassed than bitter.  My school district hasn't always been the best athletically, but it's always been a good school district that did things right and we always put academics first.  There has always been talent at HF, but we've missed on coaching hires basically since Jeff Keener.  This latest hire is a miss too.  Those transfers haven't always lived in HF and the new ones won't either and everyone knows it.  I'd rather lose with our kids and coaches who do it right than openly break the rules and then brag about how great they are.  Nobody is buying it.  I'm old enough to know that winning isn't everything.
It's not bravery to point out something is wrong.  For what it's worth I've made my opinion known to the principal, AD, and superintendent at HF so I'm not hiding behind an anonymous message board.
 

More embarrassed than bitter.  My school district hasn't always been the best athletically, but it's always been a good school district that did things right and we always put academics first.  There has always been talent at HF, but we've missed on coaching hires basically since Jeff Keener.  This latest hire is a miss too.  Those transfers haven't always lived in HF and the new ones won't either and everyone knows it.  I'd rather lose with our kids and coaches who do it right than openly break the rules and then brag about how great they are.  Nobody is buying it.  I'm old enough to know that winning isn't everything.
It's not bravery to point out something is wrong.  For what it's worth I've made my opinion known to the principal, AD, and superintendent at HF so I'm not hiding behind an anonymous message board.
 

More embarrassed than bitter.  My school district hasn't always been the best athletically, but it's always been a good school district that did things right and we always put academics first.  There has always been talent at HF, but we've missed on coaching hires basically since Jeff Keener.  This latest hire is a miss too.  Those transfers haven't always lived in HF and the new ones won't either and everyone knows it.  I'd rather lose with our kids and coaches who do it right than openly break the rules and then brag about how great they are.  Nobody is buying it.  I'm old enough to know that winning isn't everything.
It's not bravery to point out something is wrong.  For what it's worth I've made my opinion known to the principal, AD, and superintendent at HF so I'm not hiding behind an anonymous message board.
 

Congratulations to Silsbee!  You Tiger fans are awful spoiled to be nitpicking a team that is going to the regional tournament...again.  Especially when you lost all those players the last several years.  Great job Coach Sigler and staff, great job Braylon Bush, and great job to the role players who stepped up.  

Congratulations to Silsbee!  You Tiger fans are awful spoiled to be nitpicking a team that is going to the regional tournament...again.  Especially when you lost all those players the last several years.  Great job Coach Sigler and staff, great job Braylon Bush, and great job to the role players who stepped up.  

You are so right.  We are spoiled rotten and we must sound terrible.  
 

Or would Calipari be a better comparison?

Just because they got away with it does not mean it wasn't an athletic move.  Earlier you talk about HJ needing to stop whining, get it in the gym, and get better.  Advocating the addition of players via transfer doesn't support that statement.  Which is it?  Work hard and get better or change your personnel through "players recruiting players?"

would Fannett made the playoffs with no move ins?? 

It's like the only players you seen are from Beaumont, Lumberton, and HF (Beaumont).  Interesting perspective.

No he did not.  He went to Vincent Middle School.  

Two eye witnesses of Adams at Silsbee Middle School!?  Does that make idiotproof an idiot?

Well my dad is black.  My mom is black.  My wife is black and even my kids are black.  This is why I said "we" can't cry racism every time someone doesn't agree with our opinion.  Try to keep up.
The two kids that came over can really play and seem to be good kids.  They somehow got cleared for eligibility, but everyone knows they were recruited to come over and should not be eligible.  They got cleared and I need to let it go, but it is difficult when you guys keep promoting your friend/yourself as a coaching guru when all his/your success is on the shoulders of illegal transfers.  At the expense of the "local" Hamshire Fannett kids.  When coach learns more offense than the spread stall or iso with the point guard maybe I'll be impressed.
This will be the last I post on this topic and I should have stopped long ago.  My advice to Coach Rideau is to follow the rules before it catches up to you.  My advice to you would be to be a lot more cautious with that accusation, as it is both divisive and dangerous.

We can't cry race every time someone has an opinion we don't like...and #5 at HJ is a black kid.  Doesn't matter.  The old "they do it too" defense isn't worth much either.  He brought four kids over with him.  Two are players, one is on JV (why?), and I think another is hurt.  What happens next year when the Ardoin kid from PA shows up?  And a couple more from Bmt?  HF gonna field a whole team of transfers and completely abandon all our local kids?  This guy will do whatever he can to get an advantage and the first chance that guy gets he'll jump ship and leave HF right back where it was.  And then who is going to bring the Beaumont kids to school?

Anybody who says Pat Abel's teams weren't fundamental or well coached is clueless.  They were almost too disciplined and fundamental whereas Chris Smith lets them play with some freedom.  Two different philosophies, but neither is wrong.  Saying all of that to say this...huge win for the Indians!

Moving a child to a different school to play for a certain coach or with certain players is a sad development.  High school athletics are special because the teams are local, but many seem not to care about that.  This is not AAU, where you can jump teams monthly.  This is not college, where athletes are recruited and choose a school.  This is not the NBA, where millionaires refuse to play certain places and select their teammates.  This is high school and it is supposed to be the last pure venue for sport.
I understand you are likely a proponent of clearing athletes for transfer, but your experience and situation seem to be cut from a much nobler cloth.  Let's be real.  These move-ins are not leaving United (David Green) and West Brook (Andre Boutte) for the prestige of a guy who's never been a head coach before.  This is recruiting and it hasn't been very subtle.  I hope that HFISD and the UIL do the right thing here.
 

Too many people sleeping on Carthage...

Changing that culture!  Can't understand why anyone wouldn't be happy?