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5 minutes ago, Tigers2010 said:

Agreed. I am not crying about anything. All I pointed out was coaches care about their record. It is what gets them the next job. He didn't make this schedule for the kids. He made it for himself. IMO

Coaches care about their record. Yes, I care to do good at my job. Trump cares to piss off democrats and do a good job. I am sure you care about your job. We should all care a little more about our jobs and do good jobs at our job. Yes, jobs are important. Good lord that statement is compelling.

6 minutes ago, Tigers2010 said:

He is insulting his own kids with that schedule. You think it's love.. It is an insult. Meanwhile, you and other Hardin parents think he is doing this wonderful job because his is 19-3 and "got them boys playing hard". Of course they are going to look "improved".

Just my thoughts, nothing personal. I have no dog in the fight.

I thought he was doing a wonderful job two years ago when they were 5-12 and defeated East Chambers or last year when they were 12-12 and defeated Kountze.  I was more impressed with that, when I heard of it. I didn't see it, but it dont take a genuis to figure out he's doing a darn good job in Hardin

4 minutes ago, Tigers2010 said:

He is insulting his own kids with that schedule. You think it's love.. It is an insult. Meanwhile, you and other Hardin parents think he is doing this wonderful job because his is 19-3 and "got them boys playing hard". Of course they are going to look "improved".

Just my thoughts, nothing personal. I have no dog in the fight.

They played hard two years ago and missed the playoffs.

They played hard last year and missed the playoffs.

They are playing hard this year and may make the playoffs or they may miss it again.

Nobody THINKS they are BETTER than before or worse than before. The only people crying about the 19-3 record is people on this website.

NOT one person believes they are better than the TOP 3 in this district. 

Hell Coldspring even has a Brookshire Bros

5 minutes ago, AggiesAreWe said:

Have you been thru Coldspring lately?

yes Cape Royal golf club - and they have a down town with a court house / two restaraunts and a grocery store which is ALOT compared to Hardin 

Buna has the ole' faithful papermill and Hwy 96 for commute 

6 minutes ago, AggiesAreWe said:

146 is as big a Hwy as 19 and 43.

Hardin is closer to 90 than Coldspring is to 59.

Yes, but you are not taking Industry into consideration when evaluating these Hwy's and Interstates.  Drive thru Coldspring and Trinity and tell me (Do they look like Hardin who has a redlight, dollar store and a mexican restaraunt ? No, they have businesses, golf courses, grocery stores, etc.  

30 minutes ago, Tigers2010 said:

Don't know the coach at Hardin and haven't seen them play. That being said, I would guess the schedule has nothing to do with "kids confidence". I would think it has more to do with the Coach wanting to put 19-3 down on his resume or his personal record than 3-19. Has nothing to do with the kids.

Has everything to do with kids. 

5 minutes ago, Tigers2010 said:

Is there such an industry in Buna?

I lived in Buna for 12 years.  Buna is nothing like Hardin.

55 minutes ago, AggiesAreWe said:

Coldspring-Oakhurst, Anahuac, Orangefield, Trinity, Tatum, Groesbeck, Little River Academy, Lago Vista, Paradise, Boyd, Commerce, Denver City, etc, etc........

Not every.

Coldspring ---- Hwy 59

Anahuac ---- i-10

Orangefield ----- i-10

Trinity ---Hwy 19

Tatum ---- hwy 43

Groesbeck - I45 is 15 mins away

Lago Vista - I 35 is 15 mins away

Paradise and Boyd --- are very close to Hwy 287 with tons of industry

Commerce - 12 minutes from i-30

Denver city - surrounded by a booming oilfield market with TONS of industry

All of these towns you listed have industry to some regard and a major highway, interstate within 10-15 miles of its location. Name one 3a in the state that has the geographical makeup as Hardin.

Trust me....you can't. I have tried many times before with very thorough research.  There's not a 3a town in the state that requires its students/parents to drive past 4 other ISD's to get to its own campuses........27 miles away at the north end of its district. That makes up 30% of its enrollment. Trust me......there is not another district in the state thats even remotely comparable.

28 minutes ago, Coach Frey said:

I'll just throw this out there as my opinion. One year when I was at Bob Hope we opened up the season 7-0, playing a steady diet of 1A and private schools. We were in UIL 3A at the time. Our first district game was at home against East Chambers. If I remember correctly we lost that game approximately 120-40.

Our boys soccer team on the other hand barely finished above .500 for the regular season. However we played the absolute toughest competition we could find. That team lost in the regional quarters to Hargrave on penalties and was a hair from advancing to the tournament. That coach won Southeast Texas Coach of the Year.

I'll take a tougher schedule and a worse record any day of the week.

 You guys had no business in 3a - no matter how you scheduled your pre-district games or not. nothing was going to prepare you for UIL 3a.

5 hours ago, AggiesAreWe said:

Every?

yes 

3 hours ago, whsalum said:

Why are the teams in Hardin suddenly all white? 

Not sure....haven't been here long but I have a buddy on the coaching staff.  He says we have been without for 4/5 years now...and from what I can tell there are only 1-2 athletes at the lower levels and none in junior high.  You have to remember,  Hardin is in the middle of nowhere and does not have any industry or a major highway anywhere near it UNLIKE EVERY 3a D1 team in the STATE.  

Yea, heaven forbid EC lose to the whiteees from Hardin.  Poor officiating was the case.  Understood.

4 hours ago, Bobcat1 said:

Kountze 2. 

EC

OF

BUNA

HARDin 

15 hours ago, About a week ago said:

With ALOT of home cooking

Home cooking ? How's that possible? The refs were from Baytown chapter, no? EC has a clear advantage in the home cooking referee department sweetheart. That don't explain defeating Kountze at their place does it? You lost to an all white, nobody able to touch the rim, extremely non-athletic team in Hardin.  Relax

25 minutes ago, AggiesAreWe said:

Not saying they would beat those three, but at least challenge your team with a better schedule.

Is the mindset that fragile at Hardin?

they were challenged.....by West Hardin 

Hardin lost 7 seniors from last year.. and Jv was below .500.. maybe Coach Collins thought his team needed confidence going into district play.

21 minutes ago, AggiesAreWe said:

I am saying that Hardin is a better team to be having that kind of schedule. That schedule is an embarrassment. At least play 2-3 teams in your classification.

Like I said before, 95% of the coverage area teams would be 19-3 with that schedule.

Is the point to be just good enough to beat the Warren's, Kirbyville's and Anahuac's of your district? Because that's all that schedule prepares you for.

As for other teams non district schedule help preparing for district, you can point to many in that regard.

As stated, if you look at the original schedule, you'd see that Tarkington & Fannett are both there.  Both cancelled on Hardin in consecutive weeks.  Also, once again...this team lost to West Hardin, so let me ask you....who are they supposed to play to get better if they can't beat WEST FREAKIN HARDIN....

Also, 4 of those games would not have been played had Hamshire & Tarkington not cancelled.  

1 hour ago, AggiesAreWe said:

I guess my point is, after browsing thru every single schedule of all our coverage area teams, not one school has a schedule like Hardin. Hardin has the only schedule where no team that they have played was at least a same classification school or higher than Hardin. That includes scheduling the three tournaments (2A Deweyville, 1A High Island, small school private Baytown Christian). Every single opponent till district play was a classification smaller, not even equal.

IMO, that sounds more like padding a record than trying to make your team better.

And from what I have been told by some in the know, that's exactly what's going on. Otherwise, why would someone ask what another coach's record was at Hardin?

And to validate your point even further, Warren and Kirbyville's tougher schedule enabled them to defeat Hardin, right ? No, it actually went opposite of that so let's look back at all the non district schedules and make note of where it helped anyone prepare for their district because that is what matters.  This has everything to do with it bothering some that Hardin is 19-3 and not 3-19.

44 minutes ago, whsalum said:

If they won half of them against Fred Good Samaritan, Bob Hope and Hampshire Fannett JV they probably won't talk about it. I don't know Coach Collins but I guess he's got his reasons. 

What did you think of Collins non-athletic Hardin team two years ago beating EC or an even less athletic team last year beating Kountze at Kountze last year? What about this years non athletic team who lost to 2a West Hardin defeating Kville and Warren who are both far more athletic ? 

Maybe it's just the coach in Hardin? One thing is certain, it's not athletes.  He's got 10 white kids who are not selfish but hustle their nuts off.  I'm sure he'd like to coach an athletic team one day.  I think there's one athlete in 4th grade so.....yea 

1 hour ago, whsalum said:

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say Hardins second team could have the same record as their first with the schedule they're playing. Just a difference of opinion maybe but I don't think you get any better playing teams that don't challenge you. 

Define challenge?  They lost to 2a West Hardin.  Some of you are still not getting the point.   Who do you want Hardin to play in the area that is the same size relatively ---so they can get better by taking a 30 point loss?   When you stack wins, you expect to win and when you expect to win, you win games you were not supposed to win.  We're not talking about contending for a district championship.  We're talking about limping into the playoffs.  Something Hardin has only done 7 times in the last 20 years.  Not exactly a basketball dynasty folks.

hardin won by 2 or 4 point maybe

think hardin won by 10