Englebert

I figured you wouldn't respond to my post. And who are you to decide what is the truth. I bet you think Obama was a good president. You think it is the truth, but reality says otherwise.

I probably would not be happy with many of the ones listed, but they would all be better than Obama. And what's your obsession about people with money? Are you really so naive that you fall for that crappy old misnomer the Liberals like to control their flock with...all rich people are evil. I knew they floated out that tiresome line a lot, but didn't think anyone was actually stupid enough to believed it. I guess you proved me wrong.

What? No examples to support your proclamation. Who would have guessed.

Which claim are you referring to? Which doesn't really matter, most credible historians would agree with every single word of that post. Just because it differs from your preconceived notions doesn't make it false. I'm sure you can find some people in your own little world who agree with you. Y'all have websites devoted to distorting the truth to fit the Liberal narrative...but many can see through that nonsense.

Apparently you have a reading comprehension deficiency because I don't mind saying negative stuff about Trump, and have plenty of times on this board. I get it, you only read what you want to read. And when it doesn't fit your narrative, you perform your mental gymnastics to twist things to conform to your own little preconceived notions. It's crystal clear to most on here.

Any one of those would definitely be better than Obama. You could throw a ball into a crowd and whoever caught it would make a better president than him. I don't think anyone can honestly disagree with that statement...although I'm sure you will without offering one shred of proof (per normal).

You've wrote some very negative and untruthful things about Trump on this website. Trump can come after you with impunity because people on his level do not get prosecuted...as we have all seen with Obama and Hillary. And why did you quote me but have nothing to say about Obama trying to influence the Israeli elections? Oops, my bad...I almost forgot...you would never say anything negative about Obama. Maybe he's the one who should have been fired. No, definitely he's the one who should have been fired. And before you go into your little half-witted comment, I will beat you to the punch...President Donald Trump will always and forever be known as President of the United States. (And he won't have the caveat as "worst" in his title).

Be careful, he just might come after you. Since Obama set the standard that it is now okay to spy on your enemies, Trump might just start checking the NSA surveillance logs to see who is in need of an attitude adjustment from Big Brother.

I still can't fathom how upset the Liberals seem to be about the Russians influencing our elections, but don't give one iota about the Obama administration actively trying to influence the Israeli elections. The Russians and Chinese hacked practically every government agency we have during the Obama years and nobody raised an eyebrow. The Russians supposedly hacked the DNC servers (which could have been an act by high school novices) and released factual information, and Liberal heads explode. I'm starting to warm up to the idea that once Trump won the election, the Obama administration knew they would need a good excuse as to why they were spying on the Trump administration, so the fake outrage story of Russian interference was hatched to give false credibility to the unlawful spying. The last few months have been enjoyable, and very disturbing at the same time. Watching Liberals throw temper tantrums, scream falsehoods and blatant lies, make doom and gloom predictions based on lies or based on absolutely nothing, concoct outrageous conspiracy theories, mock and deride anyone that doesn't agree with them, and basically accept as fact every harebrained theory for Hillary's loss, except the fact that she was far and away the worst candidate the Democrats could run. Not only are we witnessing this comical reaction with our very own eyes, but we are also privileged to the incessant and insistent rants that the Republicans are the ones displaying this behavior. I originally thought the Liberal's behavior was comical, but now it has gotten to the point of just sad...and frightening to know how many of y'all exist...and are willing to reveal yourselves by engaging in this childish behavior. Trump beat you at your own game! And please, for once, when you Liberals insist on calling Trump mentally unstable, please backup your claims with some evidence. And when you can't, we can see crystal clear who the mentally unstable are. And back to the topic, Comey should have been fired a long time ago. Liberals know it, but still feel compelled to be the source of division...it just in their DNA I guess.

Do you believe the American people should be forced to provide help for the poor? Should it be an individual decision made by each to which they see fit, or a government mandated decision through confiscation of wages through taxation?

Why are you quoting me? Do you have the foggiest idea of what I think about Trump and his healthcare? It is clear you do not.

I'm not so sure we totally disagree about that. I think the Higher Power would advocate for individual freedom to decide to be charitable, and that most people would observe this duty...in which case we would have zero need for government run health care.

Do you think the higher power would advocate for government run single-payer healthcare in which everyone has their wages forcibly confiscated to support the have-nots, or do you think He would support a capitalistic free-market approach in which catastrophic and pre-existing conditions are dealt with by charity organizations? (I don't think it's possible to load a question more than that.)

I'm still waiting for the scripture that says it's okay to forcibly confiscate money from the haves to support the have-nots. You've adequately shown where it is an individual duty for those who follow the Bible to help the poor, but is it the government's job to forcibly apply this duty to all Americans, especially in a country where freedom OF and FROM religion are both a guaranteed right (as interpreted throughout American history)?

I'm still waiting for the "take from the rich to give to the poor" Biblical quote. That is the whole discussion. I don't think there is anyone on here that doesn't want to help the truly needed. But taking (through taxation) from hard working folks to give to those the elitist deem "needy" (with little to no verification) is not one of the tenants of the Bible that I'm aware of. Every one of your quotes deal with personal actions. The discussion is more on the lines of should the government force everyone to contribute to the needs of others. But I did enjoy reading those quotes.

I look at Trump's quoted comments just like some of Obama's campaign statements...he really meant them at the time he said them (not like the blatant lie of "You can keep your doctor" or "You can keep your healthcare plan"...but akin to "I will close Gitmo in my first year"). Shauna is just a liar that probably knows she's lying but harbors so much hate for Trump that she will say anything that she thinks will make him look bad. Frankly I'm pissed that the GOP hasn't just repealed Obamacare then moved on to the next issue. This obsession with "replace" is making all the GOP look like major RINOs. Shauna is a typical Liberal spinning and offering misleading statements in an effort to undermine Trump. Zach The Future is not worth mentioning. If you quizzed him on what "horrible things" Trump has done, I bet he would answer with his feet...running back to his safe space as fast as he could. So yeah, if we were to grade the three people in your thread, I would rate Shauna as the worst, then Trump, and Zach will remain unworthy of response.

I would love for Shauna to comment on how many millions of people effectively lost their health coverage after Obamacare was implemented. And where does she get these numbers...from the Congressional Budget Office. The same CBO that said premiums would be reduced by 2500.00 per family under Obamacare? The same CBO that said Obamacare would cut the deficit by $120 billion? And who are these 14 million that would lose their coverage? What is in the new healthcare proposal that bans them from getting coverage? Why are they not able to buy their coverage like everybody else? Is Shauna just trying to use scare tactics and misleading statements to attack a plan that I assuming she knows nothing about?

Any bets on when the first lawsuit will be filed, and which judge will be shopped for based on political contributions? I'm guessing within an hour after Gov Abbott signs the bill into law, a lawsuit will be filed in a court in which the judge has contributed a substantial amount of money to the Obama campaign and Democrat party. Any takers? Maybe we could beat them to the punch and file a lawsuit in every town in Texas so hundreds of judges can say the law is wholly constitutional.

Is that really what you extrapolated from TVC's post? The framers of the Constitution where vehemently against benevolent rulers, thus framed the Constitution to give more rights to the people instead of the government. Please clarify you post... with examples...of who these effective benevolent rulers are. I have a feeling I'm somehow missing your intent, because my initial reading of your post can only lead me to believe this was some sort of attempt at sarcasm...but I don't get it.

At times Trump sounds like a Republican. But on many occasions he sounds more like a staunch Democrat, thus the reason he was not my first, second, third, fourth...seventeenth choice. At least he filled his cabinet with Conservatives. He does seem to be patterning himself after his predecessor on many things. I didn't think the Constitution would be one of those gripes though.

Where in America does this happen? Maybe you can stick your crap there, since that place only exists in your head.

I guess Trump got Grubered.

Still doesn't make Hillary any less guilty.

I'm going to have to give kudos to these people. Their intellectual potential is phenomenal. I'm fairly certain I do not have the ability, even after extensive schooling, to fathom the cerebral gymnastics to convince myself, much less others, of being offended by such mundane acts. This exceeds the limits of which I could only dream. These people should be congratulated for intellectual potential and originality, then given a good old woodshed spanking for stupidity.

Really? You don't think it is possibly the Right just defending themselves against every sick and twisted inflammatory generalized stereotype lobbed by the Left. Please try and take an objective look at these posts and see who is the aggressor and who is the defender. Just because the majority of the posts are responses to attacks does not equate to aggression. It is painfully clear which side harbors hate.