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Congrats WB.  Westfield is a really tough draw and will be a heavy favorite.  What I see likely happening is that the Westfield D will be more like The Woodlands D, capable of slowing that awesome WB offense.  But, WB has surprised me more than once this season.  And anytime you have an offense like that, you have a chance.  My prediction 32-22 Westfield.  But, I'll be rooting for WB.

On 11/18/2016 at 6:32 PM, Goblin said:

The Woodlands are for real this year and it's funny how conciliatory they're being now given the giant gorilla on their back and the pretty close game last week. Remind me how many times TWHS beat Katy yet didn't show up postseason and remind me how many State Championships they've won compared to WB.

Yup, we don't have much, you're right.

8 hours ago, Pack007 said:

I'll be at this one. Palestine isn't that far for me.  82, are y'all the home team? I wouldn't want to be on that visitor side. 

What not in Waco, watching the Highlanders?

Being a Woodlands fan I have really come to appreciate Beaumont West Brook.  I know we won big against them.  But, everything since that game tells me it was a fluke game for West Brook.  Not that Highlanders won, we would win again, but the scope of the victory.  My bet is that in a rematch it would not be so one sided.  What I've come to appreciate about West Brook is how after such a one sided loss, the Bruins have picked themselves up and beaten some very good teams.  They are 11-1 and deserving of the good press and respect from other teams.  I still think Klein Collins, Cedar Ridge and Westfield are the R2 favorites.  But, I won't be shocked if West Brook pulls off a couple of big upsets.  There are many Highlander fans cheering you on, good luck West Brook. 

Congrats West Brook on last week.  I really didn't know who to pick last week.  Two excellent teams.  I'm with BadSanta, I think West Brook is the clear favorite.  Two TD win is probably about right.  Very proud of how West Brook has played these last few weeks.  They are my dark horse pick in R2 D2.

On 11/12/2016 at 6:29 AM, 82 5A State Champs said:

Are you suggesting that West Brook will be the favorite against Lakeview Centennial, next week?

Absolutely, they will be the favorites.  The Lakeview District is considered one of the weakest in the state.

4 hours ago, LOBOFAN84 said:

Road games are not an issue for us, being as we are stuck so far in the Pines! LOL! Our defense has seen improvement from the beginning of the season. They are young, underclassmen (No Excuse), so it has taken them alot of time to come together. I think they are most definitely on the right track, though. I am hoping they surprise WB with typical Lobo Football!!

I've lost a little confidence in LV.  I expected a victory over a very good JT.  It's probably not fair.

6 hours ago, 5GallonBucket said:

That's a good record to have.....but this time Longview is not playing at a neutral site..... playing @ the BROOK, but I really don't see that being much of a factor minus that long bus drive.  Brook"s fan support is weak at home games IMO.

If longview is not disciplined on Defensive I give this to WB.

I saw a really good crowd for The Woodlands game.  And, it's a long road trip for Longview.  Tough game to call.  Both are good teams capable of a deep run this season at least with regard to Region Two.  I don't see either going to state this season, but ya never know.  

5 hours ago, pe2009 said:

Yep. I think it comes down to Atascocita and Ridge Point at the bottom half of the bracket. I also think Cy-Fair knocks off Lamar. 3rd round match up between Katy and North Shore is a possibility.....I would favor either over Ridge Point depending on how healthy the winner comes out of that battle.

I don't understand the love for Ridge Point.  They've just not played any tough opponents.  I think there are at least six D1 teams in R3 that will easily dispatch them.  They're out in the second round to the winner of Lamar v Cy Fair.  I pick Cy Fair.

6 hours ago, pe2009 said:

Ranch has typically been D2.....they had Keith Ford and faced Katy in the regional finals in 2012(After beating Manvel) and was Katy's toughest opponent last season with a good chance of knocking them off in round 2 this year

No, the times Ranch has gone to state they were D1.  Katy was the D2 rep.  Ranch is a good team, but they will lose to Katy.  I give them a chance but not a great chance.  

I would't call Montgomery a strong opponent.  Rockwell is about to flatten them.  Lufkin has as good an offense as anyone, they have a weak weak defense.  

1 hour ago, 82 5A State Champs said:

Until WB proves that we can once again play with the Katy's, and The Woodlands, I'm going to continue to be hard on Brook. We have the talent to play with anybody in the state, we just get held back by coaching. For us to win 9 games, this season, is a huge accomplishment. But, if we can't do anything in the playoffs, it's all smoke and mirrors.

I agree with you that WB has talent.  But, when I saw the match-up with the Woodlands I didn't see two equal teams physically.  But, this is not a typical Woodlands team.  Normally they are not ranked #3 in the state.  WB is very good as the record indicates, but to compare them with an elite Woodlands team is unfair.  My guess is the two will be more closely aligned in talent next season when they graduate many from an extra talented senior heavy team.  

Well West Brook beat Lufkin and Lufin beat Longview, so you never know.  West Brook has surprised me with how well they have regrouped after the Woodlands loss.  Yes too, everyone except their first opponent has been beaten badly by The Woodlands.  So given what else West Brook has done, I give them a chance.

2 minutes ago, Pack007 said:

I think it's going to be a good game, but I'm not sure if Wb can win it. The lobos have a great rushing attack that I don't see WB slowing down. They have more speed on defense to deal with those sweeps and bubble screens that West Brook like to run. I just think it will be a slow start for Lv because of travel. If Wb can jump on them early in the game and can get some turnovers, I like their chances to win 

This should be a good game, hard to pick a winner.

52 minutes ago, pe2009 said:

I live in Cypress...every district game is important so most of the teams....all, not named Cy-Fair or Ranch...throw all the athletes on offense and try to outscore district opponents....they don't have the luxury of using non-district game to "Work on certain things". Most spread teams have horrible defenses(Woodlands have been the exception) To run a offense like Katy, Cy-Fair and Cy-Ranch....you NEED to play defense...defense first then a time consuming offense. Cy-Fair traditionally has been one of the top CFISD teams year in, year out...Since Cy-Ranch opened 7 years ago they have been two two regional title games and a State title game. Cy Ranch and Cy-fair like Katy....don't put all the playmakers on Offense and actually play good defense. Some other teams in CFISD:

Jersey Village...FEWEST points they've given up this season is 35. Given up 58+ 4 times this season

 

Cy-Springs....great offense but in 3 consecutive games gave up 73,72,62

 

Cy-Ranch and Cy-Fair are the only 2 teams in district that have allowed fewer than 200 points

I see what you mean.  Ranch certainly has one of the best coaches in the area.  But, part of the reason Ranch has progressed quite far in the playoffs has been that R3 D1 frequently has been weak.  Not so this year, it is one of the best.  Most years with the teams Ranch and Fair have, I would think they could get to the Region Tille game.  Not so this year, that Region is stacked as I said earlier, it looks like murders row.

Not only would I say The Woodlands is the exception, they currently have what appears to be the best D in the area.  Pretty impressive how they shut down Katy's Glass to 66 yards when he was averaging 230 a game leading into their game.  They did the same thing to George Ranch and otherwise undefeated West Brook in even more impressive fashion 72-7.

23 hours ago, pe2009 said:

Cy-Ranch would get Katy 2nd round. Ridge point would get the winner of Cy-Fair and Lamar. I wouldn't call CFISD the "Best" district.....having only one non district game makes their games more important.....but not necessarily the best....Cy-Fair and Cy-Ranch are the only two non-spread teams and actually play defense so they have the best chance of getting past round 2 year in year out.

Are you saying playing the spread has anything to do with defense or just that they don't play the spread and have a good defense?  The Woodlands unlike Katy, plays the spread and both have top notch defenses.

6 minutes ago, pe2009 said:

D2 is literally WIDE open without Katy...Friendswood is my sleeper.

Yeah, I missed them.  That should be a good match-up with George Ranch in the first round.  Sad for the loser because the winner may go on to the Region Title.

18 hours ago, pe2009 said:

Cy-Ranch would get Katy 2nd round. Ridge point would get the winner of Cy-Fair and Lamar. I wouldn't call CFISD the "Best" district.....having only one non district game makes their games more important.....but not necessarily the best....Cy-Fair and Cy-Ranch are the only two non-spread teams and actually play defense so they have the best chance of getting past round 2 year in year out.

I was looking at the other two in Cy Fair District in D2 and think they may make some noise.  It's clear the vast majority of really good teams have gone D1.  I think Cy Ridge, Dawson, Langham Creek LaPorte and George Ranch are the class of the group.  The best in that group is no better than fifth in the D1 group.  It's a good year to be in R3 D2.  I really like the Cy Schools, GR and maybe Dawson to come out as the Region Rep.  I don't rule out LaPorte, but they are probably my fifth pick.

I don't really see a lot of depth in R3 D2, but D1 is a beast  Dickinson, Taylor, Katy, NS, Ranch, Cy-Fair and even Ridge Point.  That's murderers row.  I still like the old pro Katy coming out on top.

I haven't seen WF this season, but I have seen West Brook.   WF lost a lot of talent from the very good team last season.  Based on what I've read, they still have plenty of size and also the speed of West Brook.  I think WF is a 14 point favorite.  But, the wild card is West Brook's offense.  If the size and speed of WF can shut down the West Brook offense like The Woodlands did to them, it will be a long night.  But, if West Brook can get something going like they did against a very good Lufkin team, there could be an upset.  JMHO.

4 minutes ago, 5GallonBucket said:

so who would it be.....dekaney?

Westfield as indicated above

Region II
Garland Naaman Forest at Dallas Jesuit
Lufkin at Tyler John Tyler
Austin Anderson at Pflugerville
Spring DeKaney at Klein Collins
Richardson Lake Highlands at Garland Lakeview Centennial
Longview at Beaumont West Brook
Round Rock McNeil at San Marcos
Houston Stratford at Spring Westfield

This is the latest projected line-up I've seen.  I see WF beating Stratford then the McNeil v San Marcos winner.  The Longview BWB winner should defeat the Lake Highlands v Garland Lakeview Centennial team.

So that potentially pits WF against BWB in round three.  WF is weaker than last season, but should be a heavy favorite over BWB if they play.

I see the other side of the bracket or potential fourth round BWB opponent as the winner between KC and John Tyler with KC being the favorite to win the Regional title.  Just my opinion for what it's worth.

18 minutes ago, D3zii said:

Wow has it always been like that?? I've been in Mississippi so I didn't know..

Exactly,  RP will do good until they run into a good 6A team and will get out coached ..No shortage on athletes but coaching can impede a lot of things. .Houston is just really deep this year and I don't see them getting past 3rd round at best could be wrong tho 

Of that group only West Brook switched regions.  They will probably switch back to R2 after last season as UIL took a lot of heat for making such a wide geographic area district.  I don't see them doing that again.

Here is a side by side comparison of what I consider a top 6A team The Woodlands and Ridge Point

Ridge Point scores 372 points in nine games giving up a paltry 71 points.  That comes out to scoring 41.3 ppg and allowing a super impressive 7.9 ppg.

The Woodlands scores 401 points in nine games giving up 102 points.  That comes out to scoring 44.6 ppg and allowing 11.3 ppg.

On the surface Ridge Point looks more impressive with a greater spread between points scored v points allowed.  But dig deeper and a different picture emerges.  The overall record of Ridge Point's opponents is 34-43 with the district opponents overall records being 22-28.  The overall record of The Woodlands opponents is 53-29 with the district opponents records being 27-19.

The biggest victories for RP are 7-2 Stratford, 7-2 Kemper and 6-3 Travis. The biggest victories for TW are 7-2 Cy Fair, 7-2 Spring, 7-2 Katy, 8-1 West Brook and 6-3 Lufkin.

I just don't get the enthusiasm for Ridge Point, mostly they've beaten up on weak teams.

11 hours ago, D3zii said:

I really didn't even know that ridge point was undefeated until yesterday, but imo they will probably be out by the 2nd-3rd  round, Just like Taylor imo..Thoes teams are good until they get to playoffs then they end up getting out coached for the most part...Cy fair is good but give me the League city District as the toughest this year with (clear spring, Dickinson, Friendswood ect) any other year I would take Cy-Fair..

ill take North Shore, but I wouldn't be surprised if Taylor did pull it out, their almost a mirror image of each other, coaching would be the difference..

idk I really like the way the Woodlands are playing right now, and wouldn't be surprised for them to take R3 D1 over Katy or NS..R3 D2 I really wanna lean towards Collins but Westfield is playing very well to, so that is a toss up..I wanna be a homer and go with Brook but their coaching is suspect at times but they do have the athletes lol

Steele vs Desoto will be a good matchup but Desoto is to strong and deep this year, I really wish they were going D1..

I don't think Allen is as strong as years pass but I also don't see them losing as easily as you guys put it..Can't underestimate the heart of a champion an teams that's been their..I do like how other teams around the state are playing tho if I had to choose between Allen and the field this year I might be taking the field but wouldn't be surprised if Allen won it all 

Katy and NS are in Region Three.  The Woodlands, Westfield, Klein Collins and West Brook are in Region Two.  

You and I are on the same page with regard to Ridge Point.  They were a very good 5A team, cleaning up against a sub par district in 6A.  As soon as they face a top tier 6A team they'll be out.  See George Ranch.   GR was supposed to be a major contender in 6A.  Some polls had them rated in the top ten to start the season in 6A.  As soon as they faced a good 6A team, Dickinson, they lost.  The Woodlands completely destroyed them.  The same thing will happen to RP.

26 minutes ago, Cougar14.2 said:

Ridge Point will get Lamar or Cy-Ranch in the second round, if they were D2 where their enrollment should fall they walk away with the region mostly uncontested. I agree with you on Steele because they won't have to play Ridge Point who has only given up 71 points the entire season. Alief Taylor will get Dickinson in the first round. There will be a bunch of good teams that won't go far.

1-4 in Cy-Fair ISD is better than any other four in Houston, the only district with an argument is 24-6A with Dickinson, Clear Springs, Clear Creek and Friendswood. Check Cy-Fair ISD's resume, every now and then the Spring or Klein district is tougher but 10 high schools with 3,000+ students and resources is hard to compete with.

I watched Manvel basically dominate North Shore, NS is the squad that has benefitted from playing in an extremely weak district a down Westfield and Atascocita this year. I promise you when they were 1-3 last year nobody was talking titles on this side of town. North Shore is very good but Taylor looks a lot better than NS did going into the season finale last year and will probably meet in the second round this year. Overall the teams in R3 6A-D1 have combined for about a dozen state title game appearances in last decade so, every game after bi-district will be regional final quality..  

I agree on the top four in those two districts.  Number four beats most districts.  The combined Spring Klein district that was broken apart this season is probably the best over several years that I've seen.  But since they were split this season, I agree Cy and 24 6A are the deepest.  But, while I think their depth is fantastic, I don't think their top teams will do well against Katy or NS.  Time will tell.  I really like NS coach and think his team would play much better against Manvel now.  I'm not sure NS would beat them, but Manvel may well be the best team in 5A.  I fully expect Katy, NS or LT to be the state finalist.  My problem with Ridge Point is while their numbers are great, they really have no statement victories over top tier teams.  If I had to pick the two champs now it is Desoto (assuming they go D2) and The Woodlands.