Pirate88
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Doesn't bc run this offense ?
Yes. BC is running the slot t this year under new head coach Dubois.
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you know Montana wasn't the only one on that team right?? We had 3 running backs also. I mean if that year was all Montana what happened the next when year when it was just him? 1 and done. I'm not trying to discount how good Montana was. He was one of the best players we've had but I am saying he wasn't the key for that offense clicking. Our defense was on point that year. Plus when Matt died it gave them something to play for that meant more than anything to them. Like my brother says (he was the starting tailback that year) the reason that tram was so good that year was because they believed in themselves and they legitmately believed they could beat everyone they played.
Where in my post did I say it was all MQ? I said that was a special GROUP of kids with MQ. Besides, I was not comparing that team to this team. I believe the comment was made that this is the same offense that took us 3 rounds. I disagree! It may look like the same offense and all, but its far from the same. That offense gave teams different looks week in and week out. This offense is predictable. That offense had different formations and packages that change week in and week out. This offense has the same formation each time they line up. That offense had teams on edge and gave us the advantage when we lined up. This offense gives no advantage to us. Defenses can watch tape and know what to expect. I'm not questioning any kids heart or desire or their drive. I believe returning 19 starters from the previous year, you should improve on the previous year.
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This is the same offense that took us 3 rounds deep. The only difference is the defense that year was pretty stout and had some big boys on both sides of the line. More play action passing on 1st down would be nice though.
This is not the same offense. That was DuBose's offense, this years is nothing like it. That was also a special group of kids with MQ. I'm not saying ditch the entire offense, but you got change it up. These kids have seen this offense for 6-8 years by the time they get to varsity. Vidor peewee runs this offense. Teams know what to expect and what to do. The advantage of this offense is gone. Yes, you are going to eat up the yards and the clock, but when you are down it does you no good.
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True about a change since DuBois left. Also we seem to have several young coaches with not a lot of experience. I do think an effective passing game, using the shotgun at times, instead of always having to roll the QB out to pass will cure whatever shortcomings the Slot-T has. As I mentioned in the previous post, Livingston had a nice version of it when Chevoski Colllins was their QB. (BTW, throw the Lee game points out and offense is still averaging 26 points a game.)
I think we agree on a lot of the same things. We have to lose the "one dimensional" tag if we ever want to compete year on year out. Vidor has some good kids coming up and could be a special group. Hate to see the trend continue.
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I think the Slot-T is fine, but needs some tweaking to incorporate more passing out of it. Maybe something like Livingston was doing with their version of it a few years ago. Have some shotgun formations, but also run out of the shotgun so defenses won't know for sure the play will be a pass. It can be done and should be done. Pirates are averaging over 33 points a game with it this year and are always over 300 yards rushing. They were second in district in offense last year and should be somewhere in that vicinity again this year. Penalties and fumbles have stopped this offense at crucial times so much this year that you have to factor that into the overall offensive output as well. IMO, the defense is what needs the overhaul.
I agree with you about the defense, particularly the secondary. Biggest problem by far. But on the offensive side, run a variation of the slot t and read option. You got to send at least one player out on a pass route each snap. When you line up and have everyone on the line blocking, the defense knows what's coming. The 33 points a game is blown up by the 83 on Lee. Yeah we eat up the field with yardage, but when it comes down to beating the top teams in district, we fall short. This offense isn't going to get you far in the playoffs either of you make it there. Just seems the offense has been in a rut every since Dubose left. I don't get the no huddle in the first quarter, but you huddle with the clock running out before half and almost don't score because of it. But hey, that's another discussion.
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It's do or die time for the Pirates. Got take down "The Nation" then on to the Reservation.
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where on earth is Vidor passing game? I mean cuz all I ever seen from them is running the ball. How can they have any expectations when they're literally grounded?
How can you expect to pass the ball when ever play you set up under center, have to fake two hand offs, roll to the side, and all with a defense that is run blitzing you every play? How about just once maybe, set up in the shotgun? You can still run the ball. But you got give the kid a fighting chance. Our play calling is predictable and routine. Anyone who watches film of half a game will have us down. I saw one play last night that was somewhat "new". Everyone in this district knows to stop Vidor, all you have to do is play assignment defense. Stay in your spot and you stop the big play. I just think the slot t has run its course, we need something different, something that will keep defenses from packing the box against the run.
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Wasn't there like 9 teams ranked at one time? After this weekend there should only be 4, with two falling back. Overrated? Yeah I think so.
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Thanks. Hopefully heading in the right direction now.
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Score and time?
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Those kids from Bay High were huge. They has 6 guys on the line that weighed 250 or more. 3 were pushing 300. They also won again this week 41-0.
You eliminate a few of those fumbles and we win that game. I would love to see us pass a little more, but I want to see it on 1st or 2nd down. Not always on 3rd and long and they know the pass is coming.
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Anyone seen the status for this game? Curious how many yards Vidor had.
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Not to late to sigh up. Camp starts next Tuesday the 9th. -
Not to late to sigh up. Camp starts next Tuesday the 9th. -
Not to late to sigh up. Camp starts next Tuesday the 9th.
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Two weeks left to sign up.
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Two weeks left to sign up.
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Two weeks left to sign up.
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Breakthrough Basketball will be hosting a three day Youth Ball Handling and Finishing camp at Vidor High School. Camp dates are June 9th - 11th, 2015. The camp is open to both boys and girls who will be entering the 4th thru 9th grades. There will be a morning session from 9am to Noon for 4th thru 6th grades and an afternoon session from 1pm to 4pm for 7th thru 9th grades. Each session is limited to 36-40 players so maximum individual attention is achieved.
Former professional and Indiana Hoosier player and current head coach of Attack Basketball Academy Charlie Miller will be conducting the camp. Registration is open now and available on line. If you sign up before April 15th, you will receive a 20% discount price of $116.00. Sign ups after April15th will be at full price of $145.00.
Sign-ups and additional information;
www.breakthroughbasketball.com/camps/camp.asp?id=June2015VidorBallhandling
This camp will be the only of its kind in this area. The next nearest Breakthrough Basketball camp to our area is in Houston, so signup today! -
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Breakthrough Basketball will be hosting a three day Youth Ball Handling and Finishing camp at Vidor High School. Camp dates are June 9th - 11th, 2015. The camp is open to both boys and girls who will be entering the 4th thru 9th grades. There will be a morning session from 9am to Noon for 4th thru 6th grades and an afternoon session from 1pm to 4pm for 7th thru 9th grades. Each session is limited to 36-40 players so maximum individual attention is achieved.
Former professional and Indiana Hoosier player and current head coach of Attack Basketball Academy Charlie Miller will be conducting the camp. Registration is open now and available on line. If you sign up before April 15th, you will receive a 20% discount price of $116.00. Sign ups after April15th will be at full price of $145.00.
Sign-ups and additional information;
www.breakthroughbasketball.com/camps/camp.asp?id=June2015VidorBallhandling
This camp will be the only of its kind in this area. The next nearest Breakthrough Basketball camp to our area is in Houston, so signup today! -
Breakthrough Basketball will be hosting a three day Youth Ball Handling and Finishing camp at Vidor High School. Camp dates are June 9th - 11th, 2015. The camp is open to both boys and girls who will be entering the 4th thru 9th grades. There will be a morning session from 9am to Noon for 4th thru 6th grades and an afternoon session from 1pm to 4pm for 7th thru 9th grades. Each session is limited to 36-40 players so maximum individual attention is achieved.
Former professional and Indiana Hoosier player and current head coach of Attack Basketball Academy Charlie Miller will be conducting the camp. Registration is open now and available on line. If you sign up before April 15th, you will receive a 20% discount price of $116.00. Sign ups after April15th will be at full price of $145.00.
Sign-ups and additional information:
www.breakthroughbasketball.com/camps/camp.asp?id=June2015VidorBallhandling
This camp will be the only of its kind in this area. The next nearest Breakthrough Basketball camp to our area is in Houston, so signup today!
Lumberton 28 Vidor 13/Final
in High School Football 2015
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First off Congrats to Lumberton. You are the better team and the better prepared team tonight. Good luck in the playoffs.
As for the Vidor players you continue to play hard and keep fighting.
Here's my evaluation of the game tonight. Vidor was not prepared for this game tonight. Offensive and defensive sides of the ball. I'm sorry if some see this as "coach bashing", put the HC, OC and DC has to take responsibility for the performance. They are responsible for developing the game plan and for carrying it out. I don't think the game plan on both sides of the ball has changed since week 1.
Offensive tonight, same predictable play calling from the first snap to the last. Same formations and schemes, nothing new except one play. Don't think we picked up a first down until almost halftime. Congrats to Lumberton DC, you watched the film and taught the scheme to stop us. Ya'll played good assignment defense and stayed at home stopping the big play and not going for the ball fakes. I said it last week and I'll say this week. You can't pass if you take every snap under center, play action and rolling out. All with a run blitzing defense coming at you.
Defense: We don't have to blitz every play. We did a better job tonight defending the pass, although that's not Lumberton's strong suit. No answer to the power sweep and no adjustment made until halftime. After giving up several long runs and a couple of TDs, I started watching the defense coming off the field. I thought I would see the unit gathered up and coached on the sideline. Not once did I see that happen. The unit goes to the bench and sits and waits for the next series.
Overall: It appears we have several young coaches. I think we could benefit from older more experienced coaches. We need a change/over haul of our offensive schemes. This form of the slot t isn't working. I would like to see a variation of the slot t and read option. Get in some shotgun formations, for both run and pass.
I'm sorry, no trying to start a war. I appreciate Jeff's passion for the game and how the kids lay it out for him. We just need to be open to new ideals and fresh looks. Does that mean a change in coaches or just a real eye opening? With 18 returning starters, we should improve on the previous year. I have no dog in this hunt. Just a fan of the program and wanting to see it succeed. Again, not meant to be "coach bashing" (but some will see it that way anyway) just my opinion. Not that it's worth much.